smitty69 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Hi- I am going to install UP in my 05 LGT. Wondering what the difficulty is compared to dp install. Wondering b/c I thought the dp would be a fairly easy install, and IT SUCKED!!!! Considering I have limited tools, and was monkeying around in my garage w/car on jack stands!! There is no room to move under the car, I had to flop around like a fish out of water to get under and back out!! Anyway, if it is more difficult than that, I think I will probably just have my mechanic do it. If it is about the same, or a little easier, I might think about doing it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 It is harder than the Downpipe and you get to remove the downpipe to install the uppipe! It is easier than rebuilding a transmission and harder than changing the oil. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatsphere Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Pay someone to do it. Among other things... you have to remove the headers and jack up the engine. Even with all the tools, it's a PITA unless you have a lift. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I worked alone and spent an entire day doing mine with just handtools. The UP is a PITA to remove, took me 2 hours just just to pull out with out jacking up the motor. Here are my tips: 1. remove the entire exhaust manifold & x-pipe as one piece 2. if you use PB Blaster or similar product, clean nuts & bolts with brake cleaner before putting back on 3. remove EGT sensor from UP before doing anything with the UP 4. have lots of patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJMC Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Took me 2 hours to do as well with installing the DP too. It would have taken me less if I removed that damn EGT sensor first! You do not have to jack up the motor. All you need to do is remove the EGT sensor and do a little bit of twisting and turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 ^+1. 2hr install is about how long it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 oh, and use new OEM gaskets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Good to know too, doing mine this weekend. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty69 Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 When you guys say 2hrs, what kind of gear do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 That's if you have done it a bunch of times; and everything goes right Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddavis Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I dont see a point in installing the downpipe and the upipe at different times. You will be redoing the work. Its like saying you are going to change a light bulb, then change the lightbulb socket right afterwards. I couldnt get my up out without jacking the engine, its a tight fit. Beer and swearing will get you through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty69 Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 they say hindsight is 20/20, right. I'm a noob to all this modding, and had read somewhere that the dp should be the first upgrade. So that's what I did. Had I known better, I would have done both at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddavis Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Yeh its a learning experience. The best part is once you get it all back together and you have a exhaust leak:spin:.. which was my first experience with the up. I think its called a up pipe, because it sticks it to you right up the pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaGe Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 what kind of gear? assless chaps. 24 pack of beer. goggles. pink floyd t-shirt. hot dogz. some toolz. a partner to keep you company. some kenny G. OTM. Sorry I didn't mean to start a war which mainly forum people is all about . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty69 Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 do you NEED to re-install the EGT? What is it anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty69 Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 I know it has a BUNG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.T.Subie Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I would pay someoen if I were you. If you screw it up and get leaks later on you will be kicking yourself. Denial is your best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty69 Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 Pay the pros it will be then. Love to learn to do it myself, but I do soooooooo love my car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 do you NEED to re-install the EGT? What is it anyway? No, but get an M12x1.25mm bolt to put in the bung and a 2.2ohm resistor. If you've never done it, it will take anywhere from 4-6hrs. Be careful removing (don't start wrestling the thing out like a phuckin moron with epilepsy), cause it's very easy to clip the half moon seal on the valve cover and then your in a whole other heap of shit. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddavis Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 If you did the downpipe, do the upipe, not much difference. Nothing like experiencing the legacy with swearing and battered knuckles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 If you did the downpipe, do the upipe, not much difference. Nothing like experiencing the legacy with swearing and battered knuckles. Apparently you've never worked on Marks car. I thought my car was retarded, but hiss brought me to a level of pissed off I just hadn't seen before. I swore that thing off over a year ago. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 If you thought the DP was hard then take it to get installed. Oh and you dont have to lift the engine nor remove the cross pipe to get the up pipe out. Definately don't have to remove the egt sensor either, mine is still stuck in the oem UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacychick Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Oh c'mon, look at how much you could have. Good ol block of wood to jack the engine up with! http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/legacychick/401606226_263aaec814_b.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaGe Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 you guys are gonna kill yoursleves. OTM. Sorry I didn't mean to start a war which mainly forum people is all about . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Wow are those multiple blocks for multiple bad ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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