oppamen Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 If Subaru and other cars with AWD had same tires on it, how would you rate Subaru? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmh4097 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Subaru V. Mitsubishi..... Umm, I'll take the subie any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D0WNxSH1FT Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 What cars, and in terms of what? Audi Quattro, Mitsubishi Evo and Ralliart are the only other full time AWD cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmoe Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Top 3 with no question. Arguably the best. Of course your "other cars" is kind of generic. I'm talking affordable consumer cars. Not supercars etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 What cars, and in terms of what? Audi Quattro, Mitsubishi Evo and Ralliart are the only other full time AWD cars. Ahem, you forgot the various Porsche models with real AWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I've had a stack of AWD DSMs and two Stealth TT's before my Legacy. I don't think any of them really have an advantage in terms of plain traction. None have been equipped with anything other than summer-only tires so I can't really judge them in ice/snow (rare here). At the track, 1.7x 60ft's have been easy in all of them. At the end of my mods the Stealth would get the rear sideways if I nailed it from ~ 10 mph while the wheel was turned. Any time before that level of power and it'd stay planted straight. Upgrading to 275-width rears fixed that; I could apply full throttle any time I wanted and would stay straight. That may be bad for "true" racing but it kept me on the pavement no matter what I did even if it wasn't the fastest line. My Legacy seems to be much more willing to bring the back end around if nailed from a stop, say while making a left turn in a hurry. Now that I expect it, I actually like that it's more tossable. Of course it is ~ 600 lbs lighter than the Stealth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Subaru wins all contests, end of story Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D0WNxSH1FT Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ahem, you forgot the various Porsche models with real AWD. Pretty sure the 911 is rear biased clutch pack based system. If it has a central diff then I'd bet it's from Audi so I'm still right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.T.Subie Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 SpecB>rest of teh world Denial is your best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Pretty sure the 911 is rear biased clutch pack based system. If it has a central diff then I'd bet it's from Audi so I'm still right. So is the Subaru AWD drivetrain on vehicles equipped with automatic transmissions, technically. 44.3% front traction, 55.7% rear traction on the 5EATs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power4 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Here's a video comparing the AWD system in the Legacy versus some other AWD vehicles. It was posted somewhere else on these forums too I believe: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooQRxlChvMw]YouTube - Subaru AWD vs. competitors[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTSubiefan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'll take Chuck Norris in a subie vs all challengers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 And not just any Subaru, but a Spec.B of course Actually, I think you can't have both together. The sheer, unimaginable awesomeness would tear this universe apart. That's why we can't find alien life. Because every other world got to the point in their existence that they had a Chuck Norris and a Spec.B. Inevitably somebody asked Chuck to drive it and upon cranking that engine, the world collapsed. I think we are dangerously close to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D0WNxSH1FT Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 So is the Subaru AWD drivetrain on vehicles equipped with automatic transmissions, technically. 44.3% front traction, 55.7% rear traction on the 5EATs Those cars have VTD which is a center diff not a clutch pack. The only Subarus with clutch packs are the Active AWD ones in the low end 2.5i. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Pretty sure the 911 is rear biased clutch pack based system. If it has a central diff then I'd bet it's from Audi so I'm still right. You pulled it from your ass? 911 has an epicyclic (same as plantary) differential with electronically controlled clutch packs. Essentially same design as STI's DCCD center differential. Audis (not sure if all, but certainly most) have Torsen center diffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D0WNxSH1FT Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 You pulled it from your ass? 911 has an epicyclic (same as plantary) differential with electronically controlled clutch packs. Essentially same design as STI's DCCD center differential. Audis (not sure if all, but certainly most) have Torsen center diffs. ''The all-wheel drive system is more or less carryover from the 996 C4S, comprised of a multi-disk viscous coupling that transfers between five and forty percent of output to the front wheels when a reduction of traction occurs.'' ''The viscous clutch all wheel drive system (997.1) sends between 5% and 40% of engine torque to the front wheels as needed.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'll take Chuck Norris in a subie vs all challengers Chuck Norris is too manly to drive a Subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Those cars have VTD which is a center diff not a clutch pack. The only Subarus with clutch packs are the Active AWD ones in the low end 2.5i. Nevertheless, they are awd and full time so they are not excluded from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 And the MT versions have always been with a center diff. But I wouldn't have complained if that had been a torsen. Regardless I think that Subaru offers the best bang for the bucks when it comes to AWD in ordinary cars since they are priced about the same as competing 2WD cars and still has a similar fuel consumption. The only real disadvantage I see is that if you have to replace one tire you may get in some trouble to avoid damage to the AWD system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmh4097 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Chuck Norris is too manly to drive a Subaru. Too bad we cant put him in a Forester in order to make it manly. I like foresters, but I would never be within five feet of one for fear of getting laughed at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Too bad we cant put him in a Forester in order to make it manly. I like foresters, but I would never be within five feet of one for fear of getting laughed at... What if it looked something like this? http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3633/1201/21580600001_large.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Too bad we cant put him in a Forester in order to make it manly. I like foresters, but I would never be within five feet of one for fear of getting laughed at... Real men drive any car their want and don't give flying sh*t about what others think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTSubiefan Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 If you throw a funny look at Chuck Norris's Subaru, he'll reach through the hood scoop and tear your eyes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjwink Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 If you are including Audi you can include Lexus. I think Acura makes one? I'm on the BB so I cane easily look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppettit2005 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 soo... let's say I have a 2006 Subaru Legacy GT, is my AWD as good as that of the legacy in the video??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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