SWP-LegacyGT Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j225/PDX-LegacyGT/LGT%20Stuff/Bushing.gif Okay by now if you own a 5EAT ‘05+ Legacy, you’ve probably heard of me. If you haven’t… welcome to the Legacy boards and strap in for another SWP review. So I’ve been getting a LOT of PM’s from people asking…. “But Aaron… how does the Tranny mount bushing make my 5EAT more complete?”I decided it was time to write my full fledged review of it.Now that said, here’s a run down of what I have on my car at the time of writing this review : RalliTEK Stage 1 w/ Enginuity AVO Rear Sway Bar + AVO Endlinks Perrin AFTA-MAF Tube H.I.D. Drilless Walkthrough Blitz Drop-in Filter Kumho Ecsta ASX \ 225/45/17 on stock wheels RalliTEK Trans Mount Bushing 5EAT AVO RSB Mounts Tein H-Techs on stock Struts Having put some miles on the car from when I had the tranny mount put on, I can definitely feel a difference in how the car responds. How so is the usual question. Well, the polyurethane bushing that fits inside of the existing tranny mount replaces the “crusty” rubber one that simply has WAY to much play in how the car shifts. What I mean by that is the shifts from 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 ->5 have now been smoothed out to where if I’m in Drive, Sport mode or Sports Shift mode, the gearing between them feels so much more connected. I would say that it does take about 2-3 days for the bushing to settle into place completely but is completely safe to drive off and drive aggressively with it if you so choose to. Like I said the shifting is buttery smooth and when your foot is on the gas pedal, you feel more connected to the transmission and overall to the car. While going up inclines or around corners (at various speeds) the "Stock" 5EAT can bog a bit when it shifts but with the bushing, it completely locks in and shifts for you when you need it to. Love it.Now I’m not saying by any means does this replace the IPT valve body upgrade that a lot of the members on this board are upgrading their 5EAT’s to, however…. I would say this would be a wise move to do in conjunction with that upgrade… or hell even if your car is STOCK, this should be the mod that pops your cars cherry. (If you’re a 4EAT/5EAT of course….) Comfort Vs. Race – What’s the difference… no, really… what the hell is the difference? - Glad you asked. So I asked that same question and here’s what I got. The race poly-bushing is a stiffer compound than the comfort. The comfort is a softer compound and makes the shifts not as sharp feeling. For my application of my Legacy, I choose the comfort for two reasons : 1) Legacy is being modified for sport and luxury. Something that I didn’t want to compromise was giving the car a “more harsh” feel than it was from the factory. 2) Wife doesn't even notice it. So I’d imagine, if you went with the “Race” version, the shifts might be a bit more sharp than stock but still not too jarring as a Daily Driver. Which brings up another question I’ve been getting; Mikeyan, another 5EAT’er on the board had some problems with his bushing that he got from RalliTek. Evidently, they sent him a 4EAT bushing as that is all they have listed on their site. RallITek from my first hand experience needs to custom make the 5EAT bushings when they get ordered because the 4EAT bushings are too large for our transmissions and they do have to shave them down a bit to fit. This is something that you can probably talk with the Sales staff about and/or place in the comments when you order off the site. Also some notes about installation – I had RalliTek do the install job for me which was about 20 mins or so on the lift. That said, you can put the car up on blocks or risers and get to it but again, it’s going to be much easier with a lift. Final Thoughts : Dammit, why didn’t I do this mod 2 years ago when I bought the car? I mean seriously, why!!?!?!!? The car with this mod and the others has made my Legacy into a brand new car. It’s my honest belief that every 4EAT/5EAT owner needs this mod and I’m not a paid RalliTek spokes person, Sean or Garner didn’t pay me to write this review up of their product…. The product speaks for itself. If anyone has any other questions, concerns or even comments, feel free to shoot me a PM and I'll answer them as best I can. Happy modding! Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyan Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I'll give it another go for my car later this week. Thanks for the review man! Mike SoCal Duck Hunters Club - Unit 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Nice complete review I might try out that race bushing. Mikeyan I look forward to your review also :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_KT Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Aaron, thank you for your write up. Unfortunately, I did not realize that RalliTEK has to have the 5EAT bushings specially made. I'll have the techs at Yimi Sport give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWP-LegacyGT Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 Aaron, thank you for your write up. Unfortunately, I did not realize that RalliTEK has to have the 5EAT bushings specially made. I'll have the techs at Yimi Sport give it a try. Doesn't add anything to the cost. As soon as they get the order in, as long as you specified that you need it for a 5EAT application, they'd be able to get it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 All I remember about mikeyan's tranny bushing is that it was like trying to squeeze a 400lb fat dude in to a size XXS speedo... ie: not going to happen and even if it did, it sure would be ugly and would require a lot of lube and a crowbar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy_Otaku Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Hey Aaron, Great review, thanks! I'll definitely look into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyan Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 All I remember about mikeyan's tranny bushing is that it was like trying to squeeze a 400lb fat dude in to a size XXS speedo... ie: not going to happen and even if it did, it sure would be ugly and would require a lot of lube and a crowbar... and I got back another one, same size, and they said to trim it i guess another go is in order at some point, but trimming be required SoCal Duck Hunters Club - Unit 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKLGT Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 i ordered the race bushing last week. who knows when i'll have time to get it installed though. Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Have the bushing insert waiting in the garage for installation. Was labeled 4eat on the package even though I specified my vehicle as a 5eat. What kind of trimming is required? Just the leading edge being inserted to allow it to get started or does the entire bushing need to be shaved down in thickness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyHermit Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 For install, use a hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyan Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Have the bushing insert waiting in the garage for installation. Was labeled 4eat on the package even though I specified my vehicle as a 5eat. What kind of trimming is required? Just the leading edge being inserted to allow it to get started or does the entire bushing need to be shaved down in thickness? I'll try to take pics as i do mine... Mike SoCal Duck Hunters Club - Unit 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I'll try to take pics as i do mine... Mike Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 No trimming required for 4eat install. I installed on this past sunday. All you need is grease and a hammer. Fits in very nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallitek.com Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Aaron, Thanks man for the great review!! Glad you are happy with the bushing. Let me know when you want to come by the shop to plan the next meet! Garner Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKLGT Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 i'm just gonna have the dealer install it at our Outlaw night on the 27th. besides, sounds like it's a lot easier to install when the car's in the air. Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eterenity11 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Thanks fpr the infor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirsimon Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Just drove my friend's car with the comfort bushing...feels great! It removes a lot of the slop from the drivetrain yet shifts (including downshifts) are very smooth. No noticeable increase in NVH. Highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKLGT Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 i hope this is easy to install. mine just arrived today and i'm booking the car in for next tues. Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirsimon Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Do you remember if it was the "race" or "comfort" version? Comfort. He felt both mounts before purchasing and he said the race version was waaaay harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWP-LegacyGT Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 Comfort. He felt both mounts before purchasing and he said the race version was waaaay harder. That's what he said..... or....she said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyHermit Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Just wondering, what color is the comfort bushing? I have the race but ordered the comfort so I can switch out because NVH is more than I'd like. Both seem to be the same color Hope I didn't get another race version, though the bag it came in indicates otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWP-LegacyGT Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyHermit Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Blue. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggs753 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Ordered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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