Refuge Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Hard Knock took place and I realized Engine Oil was Low. This is stock 140K. I changed spark plugs 5 days prior and cleaned the sensor in the SPT Air Intake. Anyway, I had to pour in a whole quart of Lucas Oil stabilizer to get it to Full. Looks like the knock is weakened. How do you go about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuge Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 And the knock was only heard once the engine warmed up in a parking spot (so no driving on it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrw Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 New shortblock time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted May 4, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 4, 2012 If you actually heard the knock you might be screwed. I'm sure you know, but these engines don't like to be low on oil Why did you add stabilizer, why not just add oil? "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Knock? Valve clatter? Piston slap? I'd get it diagnosed by a good tech first, these engines can make a lot of different noises depending on what did or didn't let go. Regards, Paul Hansen http://www.avoturboworld.com http://www.facebook.com/avoturboworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuge Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yo Ajax! I'm in Seattle! Well really Federal Way. Do you know a good spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I've heard good things about Outback Automotive, though I've never been there personally: Outback Automotive Performance Tuning, Maintenance, Parts, Accessories, Major Repairs. 253.236.8044 - 9am-6pm Tues-Sat 4054 Auburn Way North There's also PIA, aka: Steve's Pacific Import Auto 13311 Pacific Ave S Tacoma, WA 98444 United States which I have been to before to drop off parts, they are good people too. Regards, Paul Hansen http://www.avoturboworld.com http://www.facebook.com/avoturboworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuge Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 If you actually heard the knock you might be screwed. I'm sure you know, but these engines don't like to be low on oil Why did you add stabilizer, why not just add oil? Oil stabilizer seems like it might thicken up the oil to help deal and lubricate the metals that might be knocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer1.8 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 My 2.5rs started to knock...i added lucas oil to thicken the oil and try to get a few.thousand. ore miles oit of it till i could get a new car. The noise only.got worse. In my opinion dont drive the car. Your only going to make it worse. If it just started you might not need a new crank just a slight polish and new rod bearings. If you keep driving it will only cost more money in the end. Sorry about your luck. Good luck with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuge Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 Knock? Valve clatter? Piston slap? I'd get it diagnosed by a good tech first, these engines can make a lot of different noises depending on what did or didn't let go. Sorry I meant Apex! So if I don't hear a hard knock is it safe to drive it to the shop? If I do is it safe? I'm cheap. Avoiding tow if not necessary. Car seems powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Sorry I meant Apex! So if I don't hear a hard knock is it safe to drive it to the shop? If I do is it safe? I'm cheap. Avoiding tow if not necessary. Car seems powerful. So it sounds like you have started it and driven it since you asked here ? If you start it and there is now knock. Try driving it slowly, stay close to home. Either way, start saving your money... Sorry to sound mean...but you changed the spark plugs 5 day's ago...and NEVER CHECKED THE OIL ? 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__raj Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 1 qt low if that is all it was does not kill an engine. The knock is bad but make sure you get it diagnosed before replacing the engine etc. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrw Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I heard the turbo bearings like the rod bearing material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted May 6, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 6, 2012 My 2.5rs started to knock...i added lucas oil to thicken the oil and try to get a few.thousand. ore miles oit of it till i could get a new car. The noise only.got worse. In my opinion dont drive the car. Your only going to make it worse. If it just started you might not need a new crank just a slight polish and new rod bearings. If you keep driving it will only cost more money in the end. Sorry about your luck. Good luck with it Uhhhh....so, moral of this story is that lucas oil is not helpful...? I feel like I'm harping on your posts, but seriously man--you are not helpful right now. Your 'advice' is dangerous. Not helpful. Take some time to learn your new vehicle and then help people out by providing knowledge... "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuge Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Yea man! Lucas oil will screw ur block! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer1.8 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Dude seriously. How is this bad advice? The OP said he pht lucas oil in his car to whag i assume was to help the knock. I told him i did the same to my old 2.5rs to get a few thousand miles more out of it so i could buy more time to find a new car. The 2.5 i had already was trash so i didnt care. I told the OP TO NOT DRIVE HIS CAR because even with thicker oil and Lucas you can still score the crank with a bad rod bearing. I told him park it now and he might not have to have crank work done. I understand your a mod and probably know a lot about turbo subies. I do not so i ask questions. But i have built 3 N/A subie motors and with my 2.2l gc i won my reginal autocross twice. I also built 2 400hp amc 401's. I know a little something about cars. I dont understand how this is bad advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted May 6, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted May 6, 2012 It's bad advice because if you are low on oil, you should just add oil. Replacing the lost oil with an additive is only going to make it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer1.8 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I only added lucas oil because it is thicker oil to help quiet the knocking. Not to use as a normal oil. When did i tell him to add more additive and go drive his car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuge Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 I already had put in the Lucas Oil before the dude said he did it in the past. However, it's good y'all are sparking over this Lucas Oil in a subie because I would have driven it. Best thing to figure out is whether or not to drain and refill with something other then 10w-30 (in Seattle. In Alaska) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted May 6, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted May 6, 2012 You'll be fine with 10w-30. But if the knock is from bearing damage, its going to do it no matter what oil you use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer1.8 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 You'll be fine with 10w-30. But if the knock is from bearing damage, its going to do it no matter what oil you use. what he said. maybe drain the oil to put the 10w30 and the oil you drained out send to get an oil analysis to help determine what you got going on in there. sure hope some people dont consider this bad advice on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted May 7, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted May 7, 2012 No, that's good advice. Some people just consider additives like the lucas to be snake oil, myself included. It wasn't personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuge Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 So does anything happen, like engine damage, if I didn't screw one coil pack tight onto the spark plug and drove it for 100+ miles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPU1 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 you took it apart and found this to be the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Don't use that Lucas shit in your oil. It is loaded with polymers and not much else. If you buy good quality oil there is no need for an additive like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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