iSooby Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Ok... so I tried to chop up my factory intake to make a shortram. Messed that up. Ruined my mass air flow sensor... learned a 300$ lesson there. But now Im thinking of how to fix this up and still get a little throttle response out of it. My new idea: basically this... I'm gonna remove everything other than the factory air box. I'm gonna run some flexible intake tubing (about 4-6inches) from the throttle body to some exhaust piping( substantially cheaper than shiney chrome intake tubing) that will be painted white. The exhaust tubing will either lead up to a cone filter or the factory air box. Depending on which one I use will decide where I put the MAF. Also will drill holed and use some rubber hose and hose clamps to extend the breather hoses that attach to the factory intake to the new tubing. Will drill the hole just small enough so that the hose will fit in there very snug and secure and so they do not leak air If I use the factory air box... ill probably run one PVC pipe where the "snorkus" was with a few bends in it and have it end up behind the passenger fog light. Questions at hand: will I see any benefit using factory airbox over a cone filter? Vice versa Will I see any benefit from continuing on from factory airbox(if used) with the PVC pipe? Also a guy at advanced auto suggested to me that the breather tubes do not need to hook up to the intake but can sit freely. Suggested that the risk that they would not be 100% sealed is not worth it and it would be fine if the just sit unconnected.. Does anyone disagree with that? Thanks for reading and any PRODUCTIVE replies will be appreciated. I understand that the benefits of this will not be substantial but I'm hoping it'll get me o e very small step closer to reaching my goal of owning a n/a 200hp ej25 legacy:) (yeah.... lost of other mods to follow this up lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky santana Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Short-Ram-Air-Filter-Kit-2-2-H4-GAS-/400280472822?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item5d32934cf6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground000 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 less intake sound noise w/ the factory airbox going with an intake moves the power band to the right, which means you lose torque but make hp, especially since you removed the torque box dont trust those dudes at autozone majority knows nothing, those 'breather' tubes created a vacuum and in some cases prevents oil sitting in areas which can create engine damage from too much oil 5eat downshift rev match:) Powder coated wheels: completed:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Ok I figured he was just talking out of his a**hole. So do you think i would gain any throttle response out of this? And what do you think about my PVC extension from the air box to where the snorkus would generally be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'm not looking for a pre made intake. I would prefer to make it custom just so I can say I did it:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground000 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 as long as you have those hoses connected you should be fine, best to have then not to technically you would lose throttle response and low end torque but gain some passing power, how much you would notice i dont know 5eat downshift rev match:) Powder coated wheels: completed:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Ok.. well while I'm working on my car and I'm there I.was considering doing a 5 point grounding kit to the top.of the struts, "dog bone", radiator?, and the block? What do you think about that... ill be using 8-10 gauged wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground000 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 grounding kit, some say it works same say it does not. I do not have experience with it so I cant say anything about it dog bone? I'm guessing pitch mount, is the bushings weak/messed up, if yes then go ahead, if no then dont waste the money if your car overheating? if not then you do not need a radiator. in fact the engine needs 'heat' to get best performance, cooler engine does not mean better performer what do you mean 'and the block' whats your plans? 5eat downshift rev match:) Powder coated wheels: completed:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 The list of parts I just mentioned were all parts that I'd be running a ground too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground000 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I see what you mean now:lol: I dont see it being beneficial just a waste of money. to get the best connection you want metal on metal contact, which will require removing the paint - which can lead to rust in those areas. yes it would work when you put it over the paint but still... subaru did a good job designing the car and it works well get a lightweight crank pulley and the engine would rev a bit faster. if you have a MT get a lightweight flywheel instead 5eat downshift rev match:) Powder coated wheels: completed:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'd do have an mt and I was thinking about looking.into that! Ill pet do.the ground kit. Intake. And lightweight fly wheel. Looking into getting 2.2 heads, cams, and a fuel pump with performance plugs and wires in the future as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wish Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1471819 And grounding kits rule. Running the paranoid fabrications one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 That threadbis very similar to what I'm considering but not quite lol. But what kind of gains are you getting from your ground kit? I believe its exactly what I'm proposing right? Cause I.think.I.was looking at that.. figure Ill just buy a roll of 10 gauge wire and use x tips(Idk for sure what kind of tips to.get?) But gains I have read about is more throttle response, smoother idle, 2mpg, and 5hp?(I find the HP gain hard to believe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wish Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Very little power gain if any. Everything is just a lot smoother and more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Awesome... I will definitely be running one. What kind of tips for the wires do you suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wish Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I don't know, I bought a pre-made kit. This is how you should install it, though. http://www.paranoidfabrications.com/directions/subarurs00/subarurs2000.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 http://www.imgur.com/OeFIh.jpg here's a link to my intake... disregarded the duct tape, om still waiting on a new MAF. Trying to figure out what to do with the breather hoses? Any suggestions?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricearu Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 If you have an auto car, it sucks. mine bogs between 1k-2k rpm. LOOK HERE!!!!! http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1471819 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 Mine is a 5mt:) I wouldn't have done it if it was an auto lol. But yes I've seen that sticky on nasioc... but the difference between mine and his is he used a pre made tube. I have to Fab up my own tube. So I'm looking for suggestions as to how I should run the breather hoses to the intake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wish Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I suggest buying a new intake. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intake-Tube-New-Polished-Subaru-Impreza-2001-2000-Legacy-Outback-Forester-Parts-/190667028418?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AImpreza%7CSubmodel%3ARS&vxp=mtr&hash=item2c64a3f7c2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wish Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Have fun killing your motor with your shitty intake then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricearu Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Buying a new tube won't fix the issue. My wife's car does it with a flange bolted to the maf. Everything else is stock. Her air box and "snorkus" were crushed in a fender bender. IF you decide to eliminate your air box, don't chop the maf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 That's what I did the first time^ I learned my lesson there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSooby Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 http://www.imgur.com/EtSsf.jpg for the people who said it would be shitty... its fully functional, and it definitely sounds awesome. And Idk if it just feels like it cause I didn't drive it for a few days but I thinkni may have got a little throttle response out if it. And it is sealed perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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