dark_thorns Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Anyone have a hydrogen cell on their car? If so what kind of cell did you use and what was the percentage of increase in your gas mileage? Did you notice any increase in torque? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colby Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 ...hydrogen cell? uhhhh if your talking about those systems that make hydrogen from electrolysis they are complete bull. The conservation law states that you can not make "free" energy. the hydrogen made will drag down your alternator and make useless energy in the form of heat and cause more drag on your engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 13, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 13, 2012 its a scam -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWSPECB Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 There is hydrogen in water. Just fill your gas tank with water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 13, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 13, 2012 At that point you will get at least a thousand miles to the gallon...while on the back of the tow truck lol -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWSPECB Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Isn't that infinity miles to the gallon then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 13, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 13, 2012 *at least* read n00b -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWSPECB Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Well played good sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr00b Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Water/methanol injection is a much more feasible way to add power/lower combustion temperatures and lower emissions as it utilizes waste energy (heat) to boost the overall efficiency of the engine. I had an idea on on my old dual plug Ford Ranger (it has a second row of plugs which ignite the exhaust charge to help with emissions) to rig up a direct water injection system that injected sometime after the spark event (I think it was 2 or 3 degrees of cam timing) the atomized water would hit the hot combustion event and expand into steam raising cylinder compression, turning the heat into more physical force against the piston. In addition it would have all the benefits of standard water injection, but it could be used for low-load conditions such as cruising (metered out based on engine load demands and fuel curves) Course I am not a fuel system engineer... Most water injection systems inject into the intake stream which still helps but requires high engine loads and lots of fuel to avoid quenching the combustion event before it starts. Direct injection would allow for more water/meth to be used and if done with perfect precision, an engine would not need or would require a much smaller cooling system, as the temperature could be regulated by the water injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky santana Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 ^ Sounds interesting. Too bad the oil companies control the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 13, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 13, 2012 Well played good sir! Thank you -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWSPECB Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Thank you Welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meier motor sports Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 how about lpg conversion. how much power could one make with an lpg lgt? would be killer for tailgates too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 How about nuclear? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 What about hooking a windmill to your car? the faster you go, the more wind = more power. Arr Arr Arr Arr Arr Arr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 ...hydrogen cell? uhhhh if your talking about those systems that make hydrogen from electrolysis they are complete bull. The conservation law states that you can not make "free" energy. the hydrogen made will drag down your alternator and make useless energy in the form of heat and cause more drag on your engine. That's not the setup i'm really talking about. Yes they do have a draw on your alternator, but less than what a sound system is gonna have is wired properly. And they don't produce useless energy, either that or wherever you've looked at the people were idiots when setting it up. When i did landscaping my boss' truck had one, and with a fully loaded trailer, i.e. bobcat, auger bit, etc., we got about 22mpg while the hydrogen cell was running. unfortunately he wired way too complex so kept blowing fuses, and without the cell with the same weight we got maybe 11 mpg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 That's not the setup i'm really talking about. Yes they do have a draw on your alternator, but less than what a sound system is gonna have is wired properly. And they don't produce useless energy, either that or wherever you've looked at the people were idiots when setting it up. When i did landscaping my boss' truck had one, and with a fully loaded trailer, i.e. bobcat, auger bit, etc., we got about 22mpg while the hydrogen cell was running. unfortunately he wired way too complex so kept blowing fuses, and without the cell with the same weight we got maybe 11 mpg. Everyone have your tinfoil hats at the ready? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 was this your boss by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Everyone have your tinfoil hats at the ready? Hey now would be the time to open up a tinfoil hat company. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 was this your boss by chance? Hahaha at first yes, but through trial and error he and a buddy of mine got it to work pretty efficiently. And for all you sceptics, there are cars using big enough hydrogen cells to run completely off water. i just figured that maybe there was someone in the subaru community that actually thought about saving gas instead of just adding a turbo. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Hahaha at first yes, but through trial and error he and a buddy of mine got it to work pretty efficiently. And for all you sceptics, there are cars using big enough hydrogen cells to run completely off water. i just figured that maybe there was someone in the subaru community that actually thought about saving gas instead of just adding a turbo. XD Cocaine is a hell of a drug. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Turbo dogg is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reincarnated as an 8 year old girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 14, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 14, 2012 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PR_rzF8ofw]cocaine - YouTube[/ame] -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingWittyAsAUsername Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Recycled energy? Hells yes! I'm going to put a boiler on my cat to power a steam generator. That bad boy will surely have enough power to power my....clock. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 15, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 15, 2012 Recycled energy? Hells yes! I'm going to put a boiler on my cat to power a steam generator. You're a genius -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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