agctr Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 At first there were tons of these threads recommending break in as the softly softly approach and then the Motorbike Break in of drive it like you stole it. With months and years in some cases, are you thankful that you did the break in the way you did or would U change it?? Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 As with my other cars, the "drive it like you stole it" method has worked again. With the heavy Ltd Wagon, my 215#s, and temps only in the low 50s, it has hit 13.395 with just the AP Stage 1 93 mod. Car has 25K miles and runs great, gets acceptable mileage, and only burns a quart of Mobil 1 5w-30 every 3K miles. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbacis Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 and only burns a quart of Mobil 1 5w-30 every 3K miles. And that's why I'd do it softly again. To me, a quart every 3K is significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 And that's why I'd do it softly again. To me, a quart every 3K is significant. Look around the Forum, 3k per quart is pretty good among the threads. For a car (mine) that hits redline regularly every time it is driven, and with most shifts in the 4-5K rom range, I see no issue with it. It is similar to what I have had on n/a performance cars with manual trannies, and to duplicate it with a turbo engine is quite good IMHO. Actually, one of the arguments for a hard beak-in is to give BETTER ring seating. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 I disagree, that amount of oil is seriously a major concern. My MY01 goes in for a service ever 7.5Miles and never gets oil inbetween. Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerami1981 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Killed it quickly..within a couple hundred miles or so. I notice NO oil consumption at all at my 5,500 mile oil changes. My average mpg around town is 22, on the highway it sits around 31..both figures are by computer avg. I'm also Stg 2. Car runs smooth and has no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintinet Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Awaiting my 05 MT LGT LImited Wagon delivery. Broke in my 02 WRX pretty gently, with occasional transgressions beyone 3.5K rpm, (for 3K miles!!!) Never had any problems (oil changes only, minimal loss) through 60K miles with Cobb Stage II, driven to the max almost daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_02GT_02R6 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I didn't buy my car brand new, so I can't comment on this with a first hand experience. However I do own a high performance motorcycle and surf to a very popular motorcyle forum, and me along with the majority of people over there break their engine's in as 'break it in as your going to ride it'. If your going to be shifting at redline 75% of the time or will use the bike for track, break it in at high revs. However these are high performance engines that redline at 16k verus a standard 4-cyld. 2.5l engine (in my case). So I'd say if your going to drive the hell out of your car or track it, break it in that way. But if its just for commuting and u dont hit redline to often, it wont hurt to break it in to subaru's recommendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_02GT_02R6 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 oh ya, I would also assume that breaking the engine in to the recommendations would also add and extended amount of overall engine life for the motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Driving techniques and styles affect a lot of things, from oil consumption to mileage. Very hard to compare. At some theoretical level, driving your car like grandma versus my driving style.....with all other factors being equal.....may show that grandma's engine stays within leakdown specs for 275K miles, whereas maybe I only get 250K. I've been doing the hard break-in for many years on many cars, and they were invariably better-running examples. Finally proved long-term effects to myself with my first Taurus SHO that I bought new (3.0 DOHC engine, 7K redline) in '89. Drove it hard every day for 10 years and 182K miles (dino oil religiously every 3K). Consumption went from none (between changes) to a quart every 2,500 miles, and this was after about 170K or so. My buddy still owns the car with about 220K on it, and it runs strong (body is rusting away, however). Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintinet Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Hard break-in is great news for me: my car should be ready in a couple of days. Any recommendations re: AP? Wait till after a stock break-in, or flash to stage I immediately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmundu Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I have a 90 mile daily commute, and frequently see redline as well, my oil consumption is about 1qt p/6k miles on avg.(Currently have 39k mi) The oil use is also dependant on what weight/brand of oil used. M1 is known to evaporate quicker than others... BTW, I broke mine in like I stole it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagcars26 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Like I stole it,,3000 miles Mobil 1 no oil loss. Did the same with 0 problems with, 98LegGT 00RS 02WRX 04STi Rudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIZARD Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Broke it in like I stole it( ) but not like i stole it to chop it up and part it out. Drive 40+ miles per day for commute, mostly highway, ZERO oil consumption changed every 3,000mi. Generally dirve about 80mph. Stage2.5376, TDC ProTune,blah blah blahhhh and....Alky/H20 injection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vahkil Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I disagree, that amount of oil is seriously a major concern. My MY01 goes in for a service ever 7.5Miles and never gets oil inbetween. Ada///M. What's more of a concern is your car needs service every 7.5 miles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbreak gt Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I broke my wagon in gently. Contributing factor was that I hadn't driven a MT since killing my Festiva in 2000 (you could park that thing in a Kleenex box), so I wanted to reacquaint myself with the whole three pedal thing. Also since the car was faster than anything I had driven in twenty years, I felt that we should get to know each other better before gettin' all sweaty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedduc Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I went with a break in procedure somewhere between the two extremes, gently vs "drive it like you stole it." It worked well for me, as I have no noticeable oil consumption between changes. My drive in to work is an 80 mile roundtrip of half backroads, and half highway. I generally tried to keep the revs under 4k, although I did exceed that when necessary. However, I used my sportshifters to vary the gears so that I was rarely at a constant rpm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakuun Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 avoided going the same speeds for long period's of time, tried to give it proper warm up time, didn't exactly 'drive it like I stole it' , but didn't baby it by any means. I absolutely love this engine- despite it's pig-slow'edness (I have a Naturally Aspirated 2.5) I swear every day it gets stronger and stronger.. every 4 I've ever owned, after 3 years feels gutless, At one point, I swore I'd never own another 4 ever, and I'm happy I made the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 What's more of a concern is your car needs service every 7.5 miles! Um unsure when u get yr Subaru serviced, but mine goes in as recommended by the service book! Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerMan Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 like I stole it, just like every other new car I have purchased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I kept it under 4000k for the first 1k miles except for a few high rpm runs then a few mid rpm runs. I wouldnt say that I drove it like I stole it but I didnt baby it either. Im not at 3500 miles on Amsoil 5w-30 and I have had no oil consumption and the car pulls very hard. This is how I broke-in my WRX and I will do the same to my 07 STI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT-L Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 avoided going the same speeds for long period's of time, tried to give it proper warm up time, didn't exactly 'drive it like I stole it' , but didn't baby it by any means. I absolutely love this engine- despite it's pig-slow'edness (I have a Naturally Aspirated 2.5) I swear every day it gets stronger and stronger.. every 4 I've ever owned, after 3 years feels gutless, At one point, I swore I'd never own another 4 ever, and I'm happy I made the exception. exactly how i did mines, except i have a gt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc51373 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 If my Leg burnt a quart of oil every 3k I would be pissed. Thats not right, I am sorry to disagree. You must be beating the snot out of it if thats what you are burning. I drive mix of hard and mellow, never beyond what the car is truly capable of. Sometimes I read these threads and wonder if some drivers forget this is not a F1 car. If your car is burning a quart, or three quarts, and you think that is normal here is some advice. Get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 If my Leg burnt a quart of oil every 3k I would be pissed. Thats not right, I am sorry to disagree. You must be beating the snot out of it if thats what you are burning. I drive mix of hard and mellow, never beyond what the car is truly capable of. Sometimes I read these threads and wonder if some drivers forget this is not a F1 car. If your car is burning a quart, or three quarts, and you think that is normal here is some advice. Get a grip. Cant be mad.... he has it right u know. Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_m Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 personally I let the oil warm up first, got to operating temps, then kill'd it everytime, I even punched it a couple of times... hitting rev limiter was fun hehe Warm up the oil....kill it Warm up the oil... kill it .... works everytime I'm at 60K kms with synth and don't notice any oil loss between 6000km oil changes. I switched to synth at 25K kms. Let grandmas break in their cars grandma style, me I ain't no grandma! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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