eekay Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Well, I've been working on this wagon for some time but I wanted to wait until it was somewhat reliable until getting a build thread going. There is still a lot to do (especially body work) but the car is running great thus far and I figured I would being the thread now. Engine: Phase I DOHC EJ25D Hybrid (EJ257 Shortblock) TD04 turbo @ 16-18 lbs. peak boost AVO TMIC PerfectPower SMT-6 Engine Management (piggy-back) Custom coolant hoses and oil feed lines (made by yours truly) Gates belts (haven't swapped my pulleys yet. ) Custom cam shafts built by Delta Cam (264 weld and grind) Supertech valve springs and retainers GFB Hybrid BPV/BOV Suspension: Tien Racing Springs KYB GR2 struts Paranoid Fabrications 1/2" rear spacers with stud kit Interior: Custom A-Pillar gauge pod(s) by JCS Pods LED gauge modification for everything else in the car (SuperBrightLEDs.com) JDM Momo steering wheel (air bag disabled, cruise control relocated) SPO Motorsports short-shifter JDM aluminum kick-guards JDM floor mats JDM climate control (not working completely yet...) Exterior: JDM projector headlights (converted to USDM, cleared and HID kit) JDM projector fog lights JDM rear tail lights JDM window air guards DRAG 18x7.5 wheels (can't remember the model #...) Hancook tires (summer) Yokohama Ice Guard tires (winter) Sorry. Gonna have to finish later. I'll upload some pictures and stuff as soon as I update. My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamaha51 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 So did you have to do anything to wiring for the ej257 shortblock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky santana Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Update already. Want to see some pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 So did you have to do anything to wiring for the ej257 shortblock? Nope. Nothing like that. Pretty much straight forward. Very simple. Update already. Want to see some pics. Haha. In due time. I'll try to get some stuff up by tomorrow. My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 28, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 28, 2011 What ECU are you running? -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Engine: PerfectPower SMT-6 Engine Management (piggy-back) Not sure what I'm going to go with yet. This is temporary. I'm debating between a PowerFC, EMS or Haltech. I keep hearing all kinds of good stuff about each so I'm in a toss-up about 'em. What do you think? My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 28, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 28, 2011 Its basically whatever name you like better...each of them do pretty much the same thing. Who is going to be tuning your car? Talk to some local tuners and pick one out. Ask them what they reccomend...because they may not be comfortable tuning some ECUs. You want to choose something that they are comfortable with -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Well, I have friends with Haltech's and they do their own tuning. I'd like to be able to learn from them so I can play with/adjust my tune as I see fit. However, I have some friends that swear by PowerFC's and the place I'm going to have do my "final" tune recommends EMS (they feel it is the best but they can tune all of the above...) So, I'm kinda just debating. Honestly, as long as the ECU makes my car run better at low RPM's (right now it has virtually now power), run E85 on it and do a speed density setup, I don't care. I'll most likely end up going with Haltech I think due to ease of installation and built-in options. *shrugs* My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 28, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 28, 2011 You can run E85 with any stand alone or piggy back...its just a matter of how its tuned... -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 That's my understanding. I believe you can also do a speed density setup with any of them as well. However, cam settings, timing, etc... are less available. Especially with my current PP-6. I believe my cams are the issue with the low-end power. Hopefully, I can make adjustments with the new standalone. My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 28, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 28, 2011 I ran a Megasquirt system and it did GREAT -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Crazy... I was actually going to mention that as a possibility. I've only known one other person that used a Megasquirt but they're in love with it. Seems strange that it's so cheap. What's up with that? My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 28, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 28, 2011 Its considered an entry level system I guess....and its not really plug and play as much as the other ones are. You basically build your ECU box and wire everything yourself. Its much more involved and an EXCELLENT learning process. Its easy to tune too. I learned everything I know about tuning on Megasquirt....and it can do everything that the other ones can too -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Hrmm. I don't really need a plug-n-play as I'm quite familiar with the wiring and have done it many, MANY times. I'm kind of computer/wiring freak. So, that shouldn't be a problem. What kind of interface does it use? Does it have any kind of built-in feedback for gauges or anything? If I were to get a Megasquirt standalone, what would be the recommended parts and/or accessories for it that would give me a solid start? My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 28, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 28, 2011 It depends on what version you run. I had Megasquirt 1, but it wasn't compatable with Subaru ignition, so I had to use Ford EDIS. I believe MS2 and 3 will work with Subaru ignition though. browse around on http://www.diyautotune.com and check out some of the stuff. You will need the harness, trigger wheel, etc This would be my shopping list if I were to go with MS3 http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/megasquirtiii-ems-system-v357-assembled-unit-black-case-p-420.html http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/34-361-trigger-wheel-p-181.html - has to be modified to fit our crank pulley http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/1239-megasquirt-wiring-harness-for-ms3x-p-451.html As well, you will need a MAP sensor. I had one from a Ford Mustang and I did speed density tuning. Also you will need a wideband o2 sensor (I had AEM) in order to get accurate tuning. You can download Megatune or TunerStudio and start exploring a little bit. THose are the programs you can tune Megasquirt with it. I like TunerStudio myself....If you just hook up your laptop to the ECU while the cars running you get all kinds of cool gauges. one thing i loved about MS is that support was GREAT. i had posted on the MS forums a few times about problems, and usually someone at diyautotune responded with an answer the same or next day. ive even had them adjust my tunes for me....and whenever i made my own changes i always sent it over to them with data logs to make sure everything was looking ok. one thing that I never got a chance to play with that MS does is flat shifting and launch control....as well, it has nitrous control, blah blah blah blah blah you can find more info about megasquirt at the following links http://www.msefi.com/ http://www.msextra.com/ http://www.ms3efi.com/ -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Nice! Thanks a ton! I'll definitely check it out. What's up with the crank pulley modification? Wiring or physical? MAP sensor shouldn't be a problem (as long as placement isn't a huge deal...) As far as software, are all of these for Windows only? I'm more looking along the lines of something that can be tuned without Windows (I don't have it and I SERIOUSLY don't want it...) Perhaps there is some sort of tuning hardware piece or connector you can buy? Like a PowerFC commander, but can be used to tune? *shrug* Sorry, I absolutely hate Windows... I would hate for my car to be the only thing that absolutely requires it... FOSS/OpenSource FTW! My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted October 28, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 28, 2011 I don't know if there are any non-windows options. The trigger wheel for the crank pulley has to be welded to the back of the crank pulley. You need to cut out the center of it to make it fit. You might not have to do that with MS3...I'm not sure...but I know I had to do it with MS1. I'm sure you could run WINE under *nix or run a VM in order to do your tuning -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Yeah. That's always an options. WinE would be best due to be not actually having to run Winblowz. VM would be a bit more rough because I'd have to find a version of Windows and most likely pay for it *wink*... I'll see what I can dig up about each software. Thanks again for the help. My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 Updates! I know I've been neglecting the piss outta this thread, but no longer! Just a few teaser pics to give you an idea of what I'm going to attempt. If anyone has any experience doing this, sort of stuff, lemme know if you have any tips for me. My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBamf41 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Email the guys at diy. They told me the ms2 does now run on our. Weird crank trigger cam combo. But one thingni have found is the newer subarus use a 36-1 trigger wheel and no cam sensor at all. And the ms2 does that to. Plus one less sensor then and a much higher res signal from the 36-1. Ill be going Ms. In the next few weeks so we can help each other. Sent from my Galaxy Tab using TapaTalk 2 BNR18g on 93oct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 Eh? My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBamf41 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 That is a clear message to read. Idk how you don't understand Sent from my Galaxy Tab using TapaTalk 2 BNR18g on 93oct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 I'm not running a megasquirt, though. I'm AEM Pro standalone. My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBamf41 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 o i thought you where still picking BNR18g on 93oct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekay Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 No, Sir! Went with an AEM Pro. Pretty happy with it so far. My 9.3 cups EJ22 makes me feel like my **** is 2.8 decimeters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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