2010 Legacy GT Automatic vs Manual transmission vote - Page 4

**lawl** · #**46:** 04-08-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by darkfox1

you forgot option C. "I will not buy a 2010 legacy GT"

if it came with an auto I would be more likely but.. more likely from 0 isnt much.

I dont afford the luxuries of "fun" vehicles... not right now. ifI want a fun car that is a manual I'll get a corvette or something. My LGT spends 99% of its driving going less than 40mph.

You're setting yourself up for an ownage here.

**darkfox1** · #**47:** 04-08-2009, 05:58 PM

where?

because I drive an auto? I dont care what people think of that.. I have often second guessed my buying automatics in the past but with my current commute I'm thankful for it every day. A long.. slow.. hilly bumper to bumper drive..

**lawl** · #**48:** 04-08-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by darkfox1

where?

because I drive an auto? I dont care what people think of that.. I have often second guessed my buying automatics in the past but with my current commute I'm thankful for it every day. A long.. slow.. hilly bumper to bumper drive..

No no. Hard to explain typing on my phone lol

**darkfox1** · #**49:** 04-08-2009, 06:45 PM

well.. if I said something stupid.. it wont be the first time.

**Aus GT** · #**50:** 11-07-2009, 02:35 AM

Hi everyone,

We have both the auto and manual version in Australia. According to Subaru Australia, the auto is just as quick in a straight line. (shorter gear ratio) Don't know how it translate to track use.

I test drove the manual version. The throw is terribly long and much stiffer then the current 6 speed box. Clutch engagement is also much lower which is more pleasant to use. I drive the car to work everyday and this box doesn't do me.

I am going to test drive the auto version this weekend. Will keep you guys posted. (if you guys are interested.

**Viber** · #**51:** 11-07-2009, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Impulse

some say that due to the amount of available torque Wayyyy down low (brochure says ~2000 rpm, so the 2010 may see full boost BY 2000rpm) the auto might not be able to handle it and so it was the only cost effective way to still offer the turbo w/o reinforcing/redesigning the 5EAT

I guess the those laws of physics dont apply to the JDM version which has a an auto...

The only reason there is no auto turbo in the USA is SOA is lazy, stupid and inept.

It has zero to do "too much uber turbo powerz for ze auto".

**fishbone** · #**52:** 11-09-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Viber

I guess the those laws of physics dont apply to the JDM version

Meaning? The two trannies run just about the same if you don't factor in a launch, OR also launch the auto at around 3200 and do the same with the manual. It's also in line with what pretty much every tuner out there has told me. Of course, we're talking 4th gen 5/6MT LGT vs 5EAT LGT which right now is a moot argument since the LGTs don't come with a 5EAT anymore. I do agree with your point, evidence seems to suggest that the JATCO internals supplied for the 5EAT are the same as the ones on the Nissan Z and Infiniti G, which are both rated at 300hp.
SOA seems to want to differentiate the LGT from the rest of the pack as being the enthusiast/driver's trim level, thus the MT only version.

**Throttlejockey** · #**53:** 11-10-2009, 04:37 AM

I heard 2011 GT will have the N/A CVT AT.

**fishbone** · #**54:** 11-10-2009, 07:55 AM

JATCO has some pretty heavy duty CVT units equipped in pretty high horsepower cars in the Nissan line-up, I really don't see why. However, NA 2WD power delivery is quite different from turbo AWD power delivery so torque alone is not the only story here.
There's a turboed CVT coupe Altima pushing well over 350whp on the stock transmission. The first one he fried because he boiled the ATF and killed the tranny belt. He's on the second tranny now with a cooler and it seems to be holding up OK.

**Aus GT** · #**55:** 12-19-2009, 04:46 PM

Hello all,

I have test driven both the manual and auto and had a really good go at both.

The auto is suprisingly responsive and I love the fact that the computer blips the throttle on down shift (equivalent to heel and toe in manual). It is a very fast and responsive auto. Paddle shift is a gem. I flicked my finger rapidly twice whilst the car was in 4th gear and within a sec (or less) 2nd gear was engaged (bypassing 3rd) and the the blip of the thorttle made it so smooth and all you notice is the engine revving at a higher rpm.

It works even better if you are downshifting from 2nd to 1st if you want to take a slow corner and come out fast. I tried very hard heel and toe to do the same thing in manual and I just couldn't do it.

The manual box throw is long and firm and has a strange rubbery feel to it unlike the ex model (which I gather is the same box in STI WRX) I have a 07 3.0RB manual and the box is much more snappy.

The figures from Subaru claims that 0-100km/hr is 6.2secs in auto and 6.3secs in manual.

I previously owned a S2000 and the box was sweet. 3.0RB box is good comparatively but the latest manual box just doesn't do me.

As for the question which one you should go for, it really comes down with what you need from the car. I drive the car to work and run around a fair bit and often in peak hour traffic and hardly go onto a track so the auto makes a whole lot more sense.

If you plan to modify the car, upgrade turbo, regular track use etc.. then manual is a reasonable choice. However, if that is the case I would rather get a second hand WRX STI and strip it down and keep it as a second car for track use.

I used to be a hardcore manual driver but this auto has changed my view. As a matter of fact, my While Premium GT sedan Auto should be delivered next week just before X'mas.

I hope this has helped anyone who can't decide on which box to go for.

Have a great X'mas and New year!

**unclemat** · #**56:** 12-19-2009, 07:44 PM

Poll is missing a choice: buy a different car.

**unclemat** · #**57:** 12-19-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by godwhomismike

You know, karma is a bitch. If you keep bashing automatic drivers, one day, you might grudgingly find yourself in a position where you can no longer operate a manual because of bad fate.

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Pfft. I don't bash those who are physically incapable of driving manual. I am glad they have that option. The mentally handicapped people however....

**BrooklynBoy** · #**58:** 12-19-2009, 09:48 PM

Aus gt------Thank you for your input , well done. And merry Christmas to you ! fishbone.......do you need a popsicle?..... Chill brother. And I vote option C also......I could never own the current style Legacy......way too fugly.

**ehsnils** · #**59:** 12-20-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by godwhomismike

You know, karma is a bitch. If you keep bashing automatic drivers, one day, you might grudgingly find yourself in a position where you can no longer operate a manual because of bad fate.

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I agree there. I have a friend that suffers from MS and the only thing he can drive well are AT cars. The clutch is a real sucker if you have MS.

Anyway - what you select - AT or MT depends on your driving habits. City driving with occasional track I would say AT. Rural roads and freeways I would say MT.

And everything gets turned on its head as soon as you involve your spouse into the equation.

**The B4** · #**60:** 12-20-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ehsnils

I agree there. I have a friend that suffers from MS and the only thing he can drive well are AT cars. The clutch is a real sucker if you have MS.

Anyway - what you select - AT or MT depends on your driving habits. City driving with occasional track I would say AT. Rural roads and freeways I would say MT.

And everything gets turned on its head as soon as you involve your spouse into the equation.

ain't that the truth!