Dark-V Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Well, at 76,000 miles, my clutch has gone south. The car's not driveable until I put in some new stuff. I've spoken to Jeremy at FredBeansParts and he has confirmed that I can use the 2007 Legacy GT Pressure plate, clutch, flywheel and throwout bearing on my 2005 Legacy GT. I know people have used the 2006+ WRX parts in the 05 Legacy GTs, but I just wanted to be 100% certain from you guys here. Read a bunch of threads about how 2007+ LGTs share the same flywheels as the 06+ WRXs. Just want to be certain before I pull the trigger. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckJAI Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Why not just get the 05' clutch setup if it's the same? Or does this go into the topic of softening up the clutch feel, as the 05's have the infamous stiff pedal feeling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark-V Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 They are not the same. The 2005 LGTs have a Dual Mass Flywheel. The 2007+ LGTs have a single mass Flywheel. The dual mass flywheel is heavier than the single mass. So performance is a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Dark-V - Just so you know, the dual-mass is only very slightly heavier than the single-mass. Granted, I don't know where that mass lies (i.e. is it towards the center or towards the outside rim of the flywheel), but I would not expect alot of difference in engine revving. You can use the 07+ setup. You can also use the 06+ WRX setup, they should be almost identical. If you plan on tuning at all, it might be a good time to pick-up a heavier duty clutch. But that's totally up to you. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark-V Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 From what I can tell, not only is the dual mass flywheel heavier, it's also a LOT more expensive. An OEM clutch kit with dual mass flywheel is over $700 from Fred Beans. The 07+ kit with single mass flywheel is DEFINITELY not that expensive. There may or may not be an added performance benefit to having a lighter flywheel, but it's going to change out the clutch feels and works, so I'm happy about that. Thanks for confirming that all the 2007 parts are going to work!! Time to order soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 The OEM clutch kit with dual mass flywheel from fred beans is lsited ~ $400-450. The WRX OEM Flywheel listed at Beans is $225. So yeah, definitely far cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkxgo0k Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 i just bought the 2007 clutch kit from fred beans and took it to my mechanic for them to install... only for them to freak out and say it's not going to fit because the new clutch is thicker than the old one and the fitment is going to be off... have you had any issues with this? is the single mass flywheel thinner than the dual mass that compensates for the difference in thickness? i told him i would do some research and get back to him whether to just go ahead and proceed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdrift86 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 i just bought a 07 wrx clutch kit/single mass and stood the two setups next to each other. the flywheel on the dual mass is obviously thicker but the pressure plate of the single mass should sit up high and make up that difference. it will be fine as long as they are about the same overall "thickness" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkxgo0k Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 okay cool, i figured it should fit with no problem. i took a look at it as well and it looks like the overall thickness is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdrift86 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Took the first drive with mine today and it works better then stock (my opinion of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajk4th Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 i just bought the 2007 clutch kit from fred beans and took it to my mechanic for them to install... only for them to freak out and say it's not going to fit because the new clutch is thicker than the old one and the fitment is going to be off... have you had any issues with this? is the single mass flywheel thinner than the dual mass that compensates for the difference in thickness? i told him i would do some research and get back to him whether to just go ahead and proceed or not. I am assuming everything did fit correctly? I have read numerous threads and I know it will work but I just got off the phone with the shop and they were freaking out as well. Just thought I would ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkxgo0k Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 as long as you're using the single mass flywheel along with the 07 clutch kit, it all fits fine. the pedal is much lighter (leg doesn't cramp anymore during rush hour). i also took it to another shop, because that mechanic that said it wouldn't fit is obviously incompetent. i'm very happy with the new clutch/flywheel set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajk4th Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Yeah I assume I got the same kit you did from Fred Beans. As a lot of other people have said they were super helpful and answered all of my questions. The problem is the tranny blew on 95 on the way back to Richmond from DC. The dealership was the closest place to get it towed. This is already costing me a lot of money and I just can't justify spending more money getting it towed to Richmond or DC. We'll see. Thanks for the response and I'll post something about how it all goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkxgo0k Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 wow your tranny blew? is it bc you rode on the clutch too long and something seized up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajk4th Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Yeah it was my fault. I heard the throw out bearing starting to go about a year and a half ago and I rode on it for wayyyyy too long. The throw out bearing crapped out finally and the input shaft on the tranny was snapped off. That led to everything inside getting mangled. The mechanic has pictures and I will try to get them up here. I sourced a used tranny in Oregon and bought the 2007 clutch kit from Fred Beans. Lesson for those that are reading, if you start to hear your throw out bearing go, don't freak out but you might want to get it replaced sooner than later just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkxgo0k Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 expensive lesson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Wow, broke the input shaft. I'm amazed. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bala84 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I'm hearing the same grinding sound. I have been getting this mild grinding sound for almost last 8k miles. got worst last week. Can I drive few hundreds at least? how much fredbeans clutch kit http://www.fredbeansparts.com/index.php/subaru-2007-2010-legacy-gt-clutch-kit-with-flywheel.html Will this be the part. Can someone suggest a good mechanic around falls church va area. Urgent. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajk4th Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Most expensive car problem I have ever had and hopefully will ever have. Bala84 - How many miles do you have on the current clutch? I would make sure the noise is actually the throw out bearing. Watch this video - http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/diy-clutch-replacement-video-126975.html The noise would change when I pressed the clutch in. The throw out bearing is only $50 so it makes sense to look into replacing the clutch if it is time. You may also need a flywheel depending on the condition. As far as shops in the DC area I have used Mach V in Sterling near the Costco and alot of people like I believe it is IAG up in Maryland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bala84 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I have around 67k miles on it. The noise has grown loud. So I stopped driving after seeing your message. Placed the order in fredbeans, thinking of taking it to DPS. Mach V is booked until 28th it seems. I had this mild grinding sound when I bought the car, the previous owner said its tight belt in winter which stops when it gets running. Indeed, it did. Slowly this became noiser and stopped for like 2 months. Now, its loud enough to scare me that something is wrong idiot. How much was the clutch kit priced and labor, when u changed them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I'm hearing the same grinding sound. I have been getting this mild grinding sound for almost last 8k miles. got worst last week. Can I drive few hundreds at least? how much fredbeans clutch kit http://www.fredbeansparts.com/index.php/subaru-2007-2010-legacy-gt-clutch-kit-with-flywheel.html Will this be the part. Can someone suggest a good mechanic around falls church va area. Urgent. Thanks in advance Call then and verify the included flywheel is a single mass one. That's an amazing good price if yhou want to go with a stock set up. I believe they have a toll free number. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bala84 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Yes, it includes single mass flywheel. I also bought the pilot bearing for $10 extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajk4th Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I got the car back on Friday and everything is running wonderfully. It does rev a little faster but not a lot and it is hardly noticeable. I had also read a detailed description/conversation about inertia and how the dual mass flywheel had more of it. It was stated that this would help out with not having to downshift as much when going up a hill or trying to pass. I have noticed this but only slightly. There were a few times that I had to downshift sooner than I did with the dual mass. Overall it runs great and I would recommend this set up to anyone. Bala84 - The dealership charged me around $800 for labor, you see the price for the clutch kit, and $1400 for the used transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Glad to hear your back on the road. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajk4th Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Thanks, it was a long 4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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