Epics are Eibach Pro-Kits re-branded (ask me how I know, Lol). They are designed to work with stock struts. I have over 30k miles on my wifes 08 5EAT runing KYB GR2's (KYB replacments for eth oOEM struts that they make for Subaru) and Epic springs. Konis are better, but overkill if you dont have the budget. On Epics the car will dial right back into factory alignment specs.