ha ha ha, yeah the volks are dope. I figure If I get tired of these, I will do the centers gold. I tried to go for a drive yesterday, RUBS LIKE A SOB. Mainly in the rear. Shat! They told me they wouldn't rub. The guys with 18's are going to have the same issue. My last set cleared fine, and they were 8" wide with a 45 offset. There are the same offset but 8.5" So I need a half inch or so to clear on the outside. Crap.