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rjundi 09-07-2007 06:29 AM

New TireRack Comparo for Ultra High Performance All-Seasons
 
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=87

Interestingly RE960 places 4 of 4 however they really are pretty close.

krzyss 09-07-2007 07:13 AM

I do not recall such a close test results.

Krzys

whitetiger 09-07-2007 07:32 AM

ulra high performance tires dont perform high enough. you need extreme performance summer tires. bridgestone re-01r or yokohama advan neova ad07 FTMFW

rao 09-07-2007 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitetiger (Post 1364177)
ulra high performance tires dont perform high enough. you need extreme performance summer tires. bridgestone re-01r or yokohama advan neova ad07 FTMFW

That would explain why my Legacy with Pirelli P Zero Nero M&S is always sliding into the ditch :lol:

Either use Slicks or park the car - it is much too dangerous ;)

praedet 09-07-2007 08:15 AM

^^^He speaks the truth

jim1969 09-07-2007 08:23 AM

I hope they take the exact same 4 tires and do the snow comparison this winter. Then you'll have more info to make an informed buying decision. I love my pirellis but they aren't great in snow. I spoke with Luke@TireRack last week. The ONLY all season he said that he'd run would be the Bridgestones. He ranked some tires for me. Bridgestone RE960A/S, pirelli PZero M&S, yokohama Advans then michelin Pilot Sport A/S.

rjundi 09-07-2007 10:05 AM

Snow is not always criteria for an UHP all-season driver.

I am happy with my WRX's RE960's in coastal New England much in their first year which is much more rain than snow.

I am still shopping for new tires to replace our LGT's 37k RE92's sometime this winter.

praedet 09-07-2007 12:55 PM

Why would someone buy ANY all-season if snow wasn't a criteria? W/o snow, the summer version would be better in all cases above about 35 degrees...

jim1969 09-07-2007 08:09 PM

exactly my point. considering what they tested they should've done summer tires not all seasons.

lawl 09-07-2007 08:37 PM

California sunshine = summer tires year round ftw!

SubLo 09-07-2007 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitetiger (Post 1364177)
ulra high performance tires dont perform high enough. you need extreme performance summer tires. bridgestone re-01r or yokohama advan neova ad07 FTMFW

Nah... this is not true for me and likely so for many others as well. Maybe for you since you auto-x frequently - true. I can attest to the accuracy of the review as I've had the P-Zero's on for a couple thousand miles now under and have pushed them pretty hard. No, they're no hi-po summer/track tires. But they are very good. For someone who needs a "performance" all-around tire for our cars, this is an excellent choice. :) "Extreme performance tires" though great for the track almost killed me this past winter - bad idea for a lot of folks.

rjundi 09-08-2007 05:19 AM

Consumer Reports next month is going to test tires including UHP supposedly. They do test tires in a winter condition and RE960's are likely included. Beyond the winter rating their testing is well......

Garandman 09-08-2007 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rjundi (Post 1365891)
Consumer Reports next month is going to test tires including UHP supposedly. They do test tires in a winter condition and RE960's are likely included. Beyond the winter rating their testing is well......

Yeah, their ice test is in a skating rink at 10mph. I subscribe and emailed them about their methodology. They don't post the raw data, and their recommendations use data not shown in the tests.

CR did test "Ultra Performance" tires in November 2003. The ranking was Goodyear F1 GS D3, Toyo Proxes T1-S, Continental ContiSportContact 2,Dunlop SP Sport 9000,Pirelli PZERO NERO,Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position.

Tire rack does a more realistic job, posts the raw data - but doesn't include Nokian, since they're not sold mail-order. There is one passenger all-season with the severe service snow (mountain/snowflake) rating: the Nokian WR. If anyone else selling an all-season could pass it, they would.

rjundi 09-08-2007 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by VVG (Post 1365961)
Yeah, their ice test is in a skating rink at 10mph. I subscribe and emailed them about their methodology. .....

They do test tires in snow too. I copied this off the website:

Snow traction reflects the distance our test car needed to accelerate from 5 to 20 mph on moderately packed snow. We tested ice braking on a skating rink from 10 mph with the ABS disengaged.

Richard B. 09-08-2007 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjundi (Post 1364143)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=87

Interestingly RE960 places 4 of 4 however they really are pretty close.


why such a HUGE difference from previous tests? i mean HUGE. 960 a/s specifically.

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires..._as/chart5.gif

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...ole/chart5.gif


i mean. come one...from .87 in the wet to a .8?? and now 12 feet longer in wet braking??


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