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Magic 11-17-2006 06:01 PM

Unofficial Legacy GT “Stage Upgrade” Definitions
 
I though this would be a good idea to have. These definitions are only a vocabulary to use to better help in discussions. They will help all in determining what level/degree you’re current or desired performance level is at. Hopefully the aftermarket community will use this vocabulary as well for the same intentions. These are loose terms, and by no means official in any way. If you have an opinion as to any changes please pm me to discuss, and keep this thread clean. I will make any and all updates to this first post. I would also like to thank all those involved with helping me do the research to develop this list, Thank You!!!
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:wub: Please Enjoy!!!:wub:





Unofficial Legacy GT “Stage Upgrade” Definitions

Stage 0: Stock with or without; panel filter / intake, or pulley

Stage 1: Stage 0 plus an upgraded ECU map/tune

Stage 1.5: Stage 0 plus a down pipe, and basic stage 2 map/tune

Stage 2: Up pipe, down pipe, upgraded stage 2 ECU map/tune. With or without Stage 0

Stage 2.5: Stage 2 plus a header, cat back exhaust, intercooler upgrade, further upgraded ECU map/tune

Stage 3: Stage 2.5 plus upgraded turbo, and stock fuel system

Stage 3.5: Stage 2.5 plus upgraded turbo and upgraded fuel system

Stage 4: Stage 3 or 3.5 plus upgraded heads or a full engine build

Stage 4.5: Stage 3 or 3.5 with both upgraded heads and a full engine build

Stage 5: Let’s dare to dream!!! Maybe fully built H6 Twin Turbo???

*Having an upgraded wastegate actuator, boost control solenoid, or TGV deletes are just pluses and do not fit into any one “stage” category.

**If you are running a methanol injection system you simply add a “+” to your Stage. I.E. Stage 2.5 +

Magic 11-19-2006 09:41 AM

Edited/upgraded first post. Having more feeedback now, thanks all

pepe 11-19-2006 10:29 AM

i think your definitions are pretty darn close to on the money correct, ..........:icon_mrgr

wukindada 11-24-2006 09:43 PM

I'm thinking of modding my car maybe going to stage II............not sure though as I want to keep all of my warranty;)

hutru01 11-25-2006 10:37 AM

Thanks for this post. I like. How much? (ref to Borat)

Legacy_Otaku 11-25-2006 11:21 AM

Hey Magic,

Nice post :). Just saw it today for the first time (I know I'm late ;)).

Definitely a nice, simple FAQ for general terminology in the Upgrading realm.

Magic 11-25-2006 11:24 AM

Thanks... That was kind of the idea ;)

zildjiank 11-25-2006 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wukindada (Post 875350)
I'm thinking of modding my car maybe going to stage II............not sure though as I want to keep all of my warranty;)

:lol: I got a kick outta that one...

These def are pretty much exactly what I've always thought all along. Thanks for clarifying...especially for those who insist their perrin panel air filters count for stage 3 or 4 :lol:

Magic 01-22-2007 02:05 PM

One everybody in here will tell you to get the stage 2 tune if you have thos mods on the car. I will tell you the same, it is worth it. I have been at stage 2 for about 6-7 months. I have had no problem using the car as a daily driver. If i had to guestimate WHP. With the stage 2 tune you'd probably be about 245-255. with the stage 1 tune only......I Dunno?

RdiggA 01-22-2007 02:11 PM

thanks for the help

aj4154 03-12-2007 08:39 PM

how much horsepower does a stage one make? i want to go to stage 2 but i drive 40000 miles a year alot of city driving im literally in my car all day most of the time. will a stage 2 effect reliability- to what degree, will a stock clutch hold- will i need to make suspension upgrades to handle the power? considering the amount of driving i do do you think the stage 2 will be liveable?

zildjiank 03-12-2007 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aj4154 (Post 1051908)
how much horsepower does a stage one make? i want to go to stage 2 but i drive 40000 miles a year alot of city driving im literally in my car all day most of the time. will a stage 2 effect reliability- to what degree, will a stock clutch hold- will i need to make suspension upgrades to handle the power? considering the amount of driving i do do you think the stage 2 will be liveable?

Lots of info around here on that. Search stage 1, 2 etc.

Stage 2 is liveable. Just about right for power needs in normal driving circumstances...

karlxmas 03-16-2007 07:30 PM

Well considering stage 2 isnt anything but exhaust flow and reprogramming id say its pretty safe for street and everyday use. Now when you start upgrading turbo and fuel systems thats another story.

wukindada 03-16-2007 07:36 PM

40K of DD on mine.....no issues:):):):)

Magic 03-16-2007 07:57 PM

^^^^ and he's not stage 2 either, I dont care what he tells you...;)


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