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caramall2 04-05-2013 12:36 PM

"Swooshing/screech" (?) sound on cold start up (starter? ps pump?)...audio file atch
 
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I get this sound at cold start up. I sounds like it's coming from under the car, maybe closer to the drivers area. It's like a dry pump or something starting up (not a belt sound). I'm wondering if it's:

-- starter?
-- power steering pump?
-- other?

Once the car warms up for 15 minutes, it doesn't make the sound. It's also only in cold weather (below 35 or 40 deg or so).

In the recording, it does it the first time, then not really the second time.

Thanks.

NOTE: YOU HAVE TO RENAME THE FILE EXTENSION FROM PDF TO M4A TO PLAY IT!

Max Capacity 04-05-2013 01:36 PM

Can't view the file hear at work.

Most likely it s the starter hanging up for a second, these cars are known for it. remove the starter, grease the shaft the gear slides on and put it back in.

Sorry, home now, I still can't see the video, because I have no clue how to rename the file to a m4a, what the heck is that ?

iNVAR 04-05-2013 11:41 PM

starter motor.

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea...html?p=4342685

well documented. fix it, or ignore it. i ignore it. it comes and goes. been doing it for a last... 3 years at least. car still starts and runs!

caramall2 04-06-2013 08:15 PM

Thanks all for the responses. Much appreciated.

HarryD 04-08-2013 02:44 PM

I had the same symptoms, and read on the forum earlier about the grease drying out in the starter. I pulled it apart to the gear reduction section.
I cleaned and re-greased the gears as well as the shaft for the bendix drive.
All is well after that.

stm25rs 11-08-2013 08:43 AM

Bumping this thread up since my started has grinded the last couple of days.

How do you guys decide between replacing the starter and just greasing the the shaft? I guess if the car starts fine except for the grinding, you just grease it?

In the almost 10k miles I've had the car, there have been 3 or 4 instances of cold starts (not necessarily cold days though) where the car doesn't fire up on the first attempt. It has almost seemed like a weak battery, but the car normally fires up like a champ. Battery terminals look are clean and protected with grease, but I haven't checked grounding straps.

I have the vacation pictures, and SC(H4SO)-6 (page 345 for the '05 pix) shows the procedure to remove the starter.

Looks easy enough, but does anybody have a pictorial walk through, or even just pictures of the starter showing what to grease?

Also, what kind of grease do you use?

HarryD 11-11-2013 05:33 AM

I did not think to take any photos when I removed my starter to re-grease it.
It has been a while since I had mine apart, but it was a very logical dissasembly.
I did not open up the starter solonoid portion.
I used Mobil 1 Synthetic grease, but I believe that a good wheel bearing grease would also be good.

Andyjo 11-11-2013 09:30 AM

Here's the inside
http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/...ps52da0699.jpg
And the snout, that drives the flywheel
http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/...ps44501229.jpg
I didn't get a pic of the spline gear, but if you pull the grey/yellow/tan housing for the little gears out, you can get to the spline shaft, greased everything w/ some random synthetic wheel bearing grease i had

chato 11-11-2013 10:21 AM

I should have done this when I had the TMIC off this weekend. I got the screech this AM.

Shik 11-30-2013 04:11 PM

I was just browsing and came across this thread. My wife's GT has been doing this for a while, I always assumed it was a belt up front that may not be as tight as it should be and when it's cold just slips for a second. But after checking the belt numerous times, I started thinking otherwise. Good to know!

chato 12-14-2013 09:01 PM

here's a little more detailed how-to I did, just in case someone stumbles on this thread.

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea...79#post4670579

Shik 12-15-2013 10:51 AM

Great write-up! Thanks!


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