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oxymoron36 01-28-2013 07:20 PM

2.2L turbo build
 
Hey guys, picked up a junked 95 legacy L a few weeks ago as a parts car. The 2.2 in it is in decent shape however, so I'm thinking about pulling it out and rebuilding it and maybe doing a turbo build. Did a bit of research on the matter, just looking to see what you guys would recommend as far as what works and what doesn't. I'm not looking to build a 500hp car, just something with some "umph" :)

Any advice, suggestions, and tips would be very much appreciated
Thanks guys

michiganSOOB 01-28-2013 07:34 PM

personally i would find a first generation Legacy model SS EJ22T engine before attempting to sink all sorts of money into a turbo build that will only yield a low boost and not the ommph you are looking for, also look into WRX swaps both very viable options. the EJ22T engine is a very strong and quite build-able power wise

monkeyposeur 01-28-2013 08:14 PM

Plenty of people have turboed 22es. Wrx guys do it using the 205 heads and wrx ecu w/new internals. Search nasioc.

wish 01-28-2013 08:16 PM

you dont wanna turbo an open deck block.

Baddog 01-28-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wish (Post 4267237)
you dont wanna turbo an open deck block.

2.0's are open deck.

broknindarkagain 01-28-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baddog (Post 4267250)
2.0's are open deck.

semi

Baddog 01-28-2013 08:44 PM

USDM 2.0's are Open.

DOHCEJ22E1 01-28-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxymoron36 (Post 4267158)
Hey guys, picked up a junked 95 legacy L a few weeks ago as a parts car. The 2.2 in it is in decent shape however, so I'm thinking about pulling it out and rebuilding it and maybe doing a turbo build. Did a bit of research on the matter, just looking to see what you guys would recommend as far as what works and what doesn't. I'm not looking to build a 500hp car, just something with some "umph" :)

Any advice, suggestions, and tips would be very much appreciated
Thanks guys

Here are the parts that you need for a small boosted EJ22E (what you have):
22T exhaust manifold, turbo, down & up pipe.
22T intake.
22T water/oil pump.
WRX top mount intercooler.
22T heads (already drilled & tapped for turbo).
You DO NOT need a 22T block for the power you are trying to produce.
They are very rare, very expensive, & are overkill if you're not trying to actually reach over 400bhp.
The 22E is an open deck block & open decks are just fine for boost.
It's the pistons you have to worry about but if you get the compression ratio between 8:1 & 8.5:1, you'll be fine as long as you can prevent detonation from occurring.

Now it gets better w/DOHC heads (putting them on instantly drops your CR to the boost ready range 8.5:1 - 8.8:1).
If you REALLY want to open up a lot of potential with a low budget, you get EJ25D heads from a 97-99 GT/Outback/SUS, & you drill & tap them for the oil/coolant lines.
Next, you get a 11mm oil/water pump for the extra supply of oil/coolant your turbo & heads will now need.
After that, you can keep the 25D cams or switch them out to the EJ20R or EJ20K cams for higher rpms.
Next, you get the WRX hardware (turbo, intercooler, exhaust manifold, up/down pipes...)
Bigger fuel injectors (22T injectors should be okay for low boost).
Bigger fuel pump.

On a completely unrelated response, all USDM 2.0L turbos are open deck while a LOT of JDM 2.0Ls are either semi open deck or closed deck blocks.

monkeyposeur 01-28-2013 09:26 PM

^What about em for that setup?

subikid90 01-28-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baddog (Post 4267250)
2.0's are open deck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by broknindarkagain (Post 4267263)
semi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baddog (Post 4267284)
USDM 2.0's are Open.

The EJ205 has more cylinder support than the NA EJ25's and EJ22's. Many will argue either way on whether it is open or semi-closed.

DOHCEJ22E1 01-28-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyposeur (Post 4267372)
^What about em for that setup?

If you're running low boost, the 25D ECU will be enough but anymore than that requires a piggyback or a standalone unit. I've seen 2 Imprezas (people around my way really like them) with 22E turbos pushing 5-7psi, running off the stock computers, one of them using a piggyback but both with EGT sensors & fuel monitoring units.

bigjweb 01-28-2013 11:13 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Open, semi, and closed deck EJ20 blocks

EJ207 semi closed - top left
EJ20 closed deck - top right
EJ205 open deck - bottom left


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