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jay-d 01-04-2013 07:01 AM

Hotchkis rear sway bar hitting lower control arm(?)
 
I don't believe they are installed incorrectly.. did the install myself. Any idea why they are hitting? Wagon is not lowered.. yet.

I don't hear any noise when they hit, I only noticed the rust marks when my car was up on the hoist doing an oil change. :redface:

Driver Side
http://i.imgur.com/2vM4e.jpg

Driver Side
http://i.imgur.com/379dg.jpg

Passenger Side
http://i.imgur.com/6gJw2.jpg

Here's a few pics from the day I installed them.

http://i.imgur.com/FdqQV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IGzul.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/m91wd.jpg

My understanding is, the hole that I've used to connect the rear links is the softer setting. Would moving them to the harder setting, alleviate the hitting?

BarManBean 01-04-2013 07:19 AM

It looks like you could use a spacer or two to help line up the endlinks perfectly, but I don't see anything in your pics that indicates the bar is installed incorrectly. Not sure why you are getting contact with the control arm / rust...

jay-d 01-04-2013 04:54 PM

I'll definitely add some washers to alleviate the added stress on the end links.. thanks for that tip!

The rust is from the bar hitting the control and scratching the powder coat off :( I hope someone can chime in and help me figure it out or else that rust will keep spreading and cleaning it up now won't really do much as it will probably scrape off again and start rusting.. wagon isn't even lowered :(

jay-d 01-08-2013 06:11 AM

No one? :\

sheppo9 01-08-2013 04:05 PM

I'd move it to the hard setting and see what happens.

Is there rub marks on the lateral links too?

jay-d 01-21-2013 08:45 AM

I changed them over to the harder setting.. now I can hear them hitting when I go over bumps and what not..

There are rub marks on the lateral links as well.

instantfury 01-21-2013 08:49 AM

I've had mine for 35-40k and I have the same wear marks. It doesn't affect performance any in my experience.

bucko3the7man 01-21-2013 08:50 AM

The hole closest to the rear of the car is the hard setting I believe. Shorter bar = stiffer bar. I'm getting the same problems on the stuff setting, in for results. Spacers won't help here I don't think, because the endlink is vertical already, it's just where it sits send to be too far back

AZP Installs 01-23-2013 01:38 PM

We have found that using an adjustable rear endlink such as the Whiteline ones can correct this problem on Legacy's.

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Justin case 01-23-2013 10:32 PM

I have the same thing on my bars. I also have adjustable whiteline end links but havent adjusted them since i installed. I may do so tomorrow and see what happens. At least the hotchkis dont hit my exhaust like my old whiteline bar.

bucko3the7man 01-23-2013 11:42 PM

So there's no fix with the kartboy endlinks? I don't care about the paint, but I do care if it makes the bar rust prematurely.

AZP Installs 01-24-2013 10:29 AM

Unfortunately there isn't a fix, at least not one we have come up with.

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m sprank 01-25-2013 08:16 PM

Number 1. Never add spacers to an endlink off a non-loaded visual inspection. Suspension MUST BE LOADED in order to verify. It is not what happens at full droop, it is how the car rides. End links must be perpendicular to the ground when the suspension is LOADED.

Second, I have never seen a Hotchkis bar hit the toe adjustment arm. Not on any Subie. Not with any endlink. I have personally installed approx 50 sets of Hotchkis bars (most with KB links). KB links work perfect. It seems to be Whiteline bars and KB links that do not pair well together (in the rear).

Third, while I feel for the OP, I also see all the rust. Which means that the suspension is not new. My guess is the rear struts and springs are worn to the point of "sag" and this is causing the issue. My only guess as my own 05 LGT wagon (stock suspension) never had an issue with Hotchkis bars and KB links. Or possibly those are front endlinks installed on the rear.

OutbackXT05 01-28-2013 12:11 PM

Im running the whiteline sway bar and kartboy link on my outback and i ended up trimming the toe arm a smidge to clear the sway bar. I wouldnt recommend that. Adjustables would work but id imagine theres something else causing the swaybar to hit.

bucko3the7man 01-28-2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OutbackXT05 (Post 4266398)
Im running the whiteline sway bar and kartboy link on my outback and i ended up trimming the toe arm a smidge to clear the sway bar. I wouldnt recommend that. Adjustables would work but id imagine theres something else causing the swaybar to hit.

That sounds like a recipe for disaster


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