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stevenva 11-08-2012 09:17 PM

Non-Legal Headlight Bulbs
 
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These are the H4/HB2/9003 bulbs that are intended for motorcycles and special service vehicles that I will be installing in my 96 Legacy.
http://store.candlepower.com/64206.html
I will post a photo side-by-side comparison of these and the current ones. The current ones, (http://store.candlepower.com/64205.html), are over-watt as well but not as much.
For the headlights I am running relays, 12 Gauge wiring and ceramic bulb sockets. My alternators output is 14.7 volts. The relays gave me trouble because I wasn't expecting the headlight circuit to be negative trigger. The bulbs probably won't last more than 6 months.

broknindarkagain 11-08-2012 09:40 PM

Do a pic against the garage door before and after install...and a pic of one headlight with new and one with old at the same time would be kind of cool to see too

stevenva 11-08-2012 09:47 PM

You'll have to settle for one side old and one side new. I only have 1 bulb working now. (low beam's out)

broknindarkagain 11-08-2012 10:09 PM

Good for me!

stevenva 11-14-2012 07:05 PM

Here are the side by side pics. The bulb pictured above is on the drivers side.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/P1000955.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/P1000964.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/P1000958.jpg

broknindarkagain 11-14-2012 08:08 PM

They look like the same bulbs on each side in the pics

camroncamera 11-14-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenva (Post 4151248)
These are the H4/HB2/9003 bulbs that are intended for motorcycles and special service vehicles that I will be installing in my 96 Legacy.
http://store.candlepower.com/64206.html
I will post a photo side-by-side comparison of these and the current ones. The current ones, (http://store.candlepower.com/64205.html), are over-watt as well but not as much.
For the headlights I am running relays, 12 Gauge wiring and ceramic bulb sockets. My alternators output is 14.7 volts. The relays gave me trouble because I wasn't expecting the headlight circuit to be negative trigger. The bulbs probably won't last more than 6 months.

I'd love to see a wiring diagram with your relay arrangement for a ground-switched system. I know that the USDM BD/BG/BK has a factory 15A headlight relay, but I'd like to upgrade my circuit for my JDM projector headlights. I'll be installing JDM projector foglights and JDM GT-B Limited spotlights at some point in the future and know that I'll have to plan my circuits carefully.

BAC5.2 11-14-2012 10:18 PM

Be VERY careful. There's a good chance a bulb that high wattage will melt the housing.

Wiring for the second gen should look like this:

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...amforBruce.gif

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...4_Pinout-2.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...4_Pinout-3.jpg

When I made an HD harness for my Forester, I used individual relays and wiring for each side, and ceramic connectors. It turned out very very well

stevenva 11-15-2012 08:37 PM

Pay close attention to the relay that is used in his drawing. Although it looks like a common 12V automotive relay at first glance, and will use the same socket, electrically it is different. It has TWO 87 outputs and no 87a. It is not as common. It is used primarily for auxiliary lighting kits. You can use KC Hilites 3300 12 Volt Relay
It has the two 87 outputs that are in the diagram.
Those are the ones I used for my setup. It makes wiring a bit easier if you are using heavy gauge.

BAC5.2 11-15-2012 08:50 PM

Definitely understand the relay configuration before working. The numbering I used may not match your relay.

The diagram I made could be easily adapted to a standard SPST 4-prong relay by splicing two wires to the 87 terminal.

I ended up using two discrete HD harnesses in my Forester, one for each headlight.

stevenva 11-15-2012 08:59 PM

I was only clarifying for camroncamera. I ended up using two discrete HD harnesses in my Forester, one for each headlight. That is strange? Don't you mean 1 for highbeams and the 2nd for lowbeams.

BAC5.2 11-15-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenva (Post 4160952)
I was only clarifying for camroncamera. I ended up using two discrete HD harnesses in my Forester, one for each headlight. That is strange? Don't you mean 1 for highbeams and the 2nd for lowbeams.

I appreciate you doing so, I'd completely forgotten to mention it.

And yes, that's what I meant. A separate harness for the highs and lows. It was more than 4 years ago, and the details have slipped a bit.

stevenva 07-21-2013 07:14 PM

Update:
After all the work I've done going through 3 sets of better performing bulbs, Upgrading the wiring and sockets ect., I have decided to throw in the towel with the stock reflector housings and admit defeat. That last pair of over-watt bulbs lasted 4 months. Save your time and frustrations and get some JDM projectors.
I just ordered a pair from eBay last night.
The RHD cutoff is irrelevant since I will be retrofitting them with a Morimoto Mini HID kit.
Does anybody know which low beam bulb goes in the JDM housing. I'm asking that because the threaded mounting shaft is different between the H1(22mm) and the D2S(32mm) versions.

Zues Marine 07-21-2013 08:14 PM

H1 bulb in JDM projectors

stevenva 07-21-2013 08:20 PM

Thanks Zues.
I was afraid of that. I was hoping it was the larger H4. I am still leaning to the D2S version since they're available in 50 watt.


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