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roundthirteen 11-08-2012 03:58 PM

upgrade vs value
 
So I'm looking at autocrossing next season and I wanted to know if it was actually worth it to do some of the smaller upgrades to my 08 Spec B's stock Brakes.

I know good pads, proper bedding and bleeding are the key but are any of the other upgrades they offer for the stock brakes worth it, VS the expense of a full Stop Tech or Brembo upgrade?

SCASEYS 11-08-2012 04:00 PM

ss lines

SCHM1AN 11-08-2012 04:24 PM

Grimmspeed Master Cylinder brace has gotten some pretty good reviews from a lot of people. They say it takes a lot of the mush out of the pedal

LosAngelesLGT 11-08-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCASEYS (Post 4150744)
ss lines

Only if you need to replace your lines anyway. If your fluid is black, you need to replace your lines. I like the GS MCB.

roundthirteen 11-08-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LosAngelesLGT (Post 4150880)
Only if you need to replace your lines anyway. If your fluid is black, you need to replace your lines. I like the GS MCB.

Yeah I was going to do the lines, I did them on my last two cars and liked them.

LosAngelesLGT 11-08-2012 09:50 PM

Im guessing your last two cars were due for fresh lines. Are we are all in agreement that they don't really make much difference unless you are going from degrading lines to new ones? IIRC these are cheaper than oem and that alone makes them a good replacement option:

http://www.infamousperformance.net/s...gacy-GT/Detail

or

http://www.infamousperformance.net/s...gacy-GT/Detail

roundthirteen 11-08-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LosAngelesLGT (Post 4151223)
Im guessing your last two cars were due for fresh lines. Are we are all in agreement that they don't really make much difference unless you are going from degrading lines to new ones? IIRC these are cheaper than oem and that alone makes them a good replacement option:

http://www.infamousperformance.net/s...gacy-GT/Detail

or

http://www.infamousperformance.net/s...gacy-GT/Detail


The first car blew a line and I just decided to upgrade, car #2 I was upgrading the front brakes to aluminum twin piston calipers and needed the slightly longer lines.

iggybdawg 11-08-2012 11:08 PM

stock calipers should be fine for autocrossing. You'll find the limiting factor for our cars is grip, so spend your money on wide tires and suspension bits.

roundthirteen 11-08-2012 11:15 PM

So far I have fresh Bilstiens, H&R springs (came when purchased), a white line bump steer, roll center kit, and I've been looking at either White Line or Rallitech Sway bars with the AVO brackets. Right now I am using 225-18 Falken Ziex 912's for the summer.

iggybdawg 11-09-2012 05:12 PM

Negative camber is your friend, and camber bolts for the front are cheap. There are two whiteline options to adjust camber in the back that aren't as cheap.

Max Capacity 11-09-2012 06:43 PM

Read the rule book before you make to many changes.

Dunlop Star Spec's are your best bet.

wpmarky 11-09-2012 06:56 PM

+1 ^^ Auto-X rules explain what upgrades you can/can't do.

I don't know the rules at all, but in general to improve high performance driving, tires first, then brake pads.

N.sane 11-09-2012 07:51 PM

Download the rule book here:

http://www.scca.com/assets/2012_Solo...ry_reduced.pdf

Sounds like you'll be in STU.

The first thing you want to do is TIRES! Falken Ziex 912 are all-seasons, so you're gonna shred them to pieces on an autocross course. The lack of grip will hold you back from having a good time too.

roundthirteen 11-10-2012 11:11 AM

What about the AZENIS RT-615K?

robinlsb 11-10-2012 12:45 PM

Read the rule book carefully. You will never heat up the brakes enough to make any difference in an autox. In fact, high temp pads, and brakes that require heat to work well, will reduce your times.


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