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KBGRIZZLY64 11-08-2012 12:30 PM

Putting in an oil pan... Hicksta'd edition
 
So I ended up finding that my stock oil pan was bent so I decided to replace it. I went with a stock replacement oil pan, mostly because the price of aftermarket ones are a little steep. Last Sunday I had the parts and started to tear into the oil pan. Come to find out it was a major pain in my ass...

All oil out, took out all the bolts, or so I thought and it wouldnt come down. So I counted the screw holes on my new pan and there are two more that were out of sight. The gap between the pan and cross brace where the motor mounts are mounted is less than an inch. I ended up needing to get a long 1/4 drive extension and 1/4 drive swivel to be able to come anywhere remotely close to these back two bolts. Luckily for me my friend who I asked to go buy me these tools bought the cheap swivel that cant retain a position to save its life.

Finally I got these ghost bolts out of the pan and the next problem was getting the pan down. Tried to shake it, used a screw drivers to pry, nothing. Finally I took a rubber mallet to it and it came loose.

No the process doesnt end there... My attempt to get the pan down was getting caught in 2 places, the header, and the cross support. I ended up taking off the header and it was still getting caught by the oil pick up being stuck on the baffling on the inside of the oil pan. After I unbolted the oil pick up the pan finally came down.

I then put my fumoto valve into my new pan cleaned the surface of where the oil pan mounts free of sealant then came to realize I forgot sealant. My buddy ran and picked up some sealant at the time I was like sweet lets finish this up. The sealant he picked up was RTV red. Big mistake.

Fast forward a little bit I put all the bits back on fill it up with new T6 and some BBK additive and job accomplished. NOT. Oil pan is leaking.

Go back under and find that its leaking from a certain spot so I figured hm must of not put enough sealant. Fast forward get everything down take 30 minutes to clean off most the sealant I can put a lot of sealant into reservoir channels of oil pan bolt everything back up new T6 back on the road. Wrong still leaking.

And now to present where I am typing this waiting for my car to cool off as I just got back from buying some T6 bought some proper sealant a proper craftsmen 1/4 drive swivel and extension and venting to forum of my greatness. I'll post up some pictures when I dive back into it here in a couple (hours).

Anyone else have as much fun changing an oil pan on their Legacy?

BoozeRS05 11-08-2012 12:38 PM

I was under the impression that removing the bolts for the motor mounts and raising the motor a half inch made this a pretty simple job..

thefultonhow 11-08-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BoozeRS05 (Post 4150520)
I was under the impression that removing the bolts for the motor mounts and raising the motor a half inch made this a pretty simple job..

Meh. It's still tough to get to those rear bolts. The crossmember is still in the way.

KBGRIZZLY64 11-08-2012 12:58 PM

Hoping this new swivel will be the game changer for those rear bolts.

KBGRIZZLY64 11-08-2012 02:52 PM

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Never goes as planned... Header bolt ended up seizing so I broke it off. Whats weird is I never cross threaded it the first time went on fine so need to make another trip to the stealership to grab some bolts and nuts. Here are some pictures for reference the 1/4in extension is holding itself up it is so tight of a space ha.

mwm5094 11-08-2012 03:52 PM

I raised the motor a few inches... didnt take the exhaust off or anything else....easy as pie. Prob took about 2 hours start to finish.

Sorry to the OP with no such luck.

KBGRIZZLY64 11-08-2012 09:07 PM

Ya 3rd time I got the hang of it header off was definitely what made it easier. Only thing that was a hassle was the oil pickup.

Drew888 11-09-2012 12:41 PM

Fujibond, Hondabond, or the like. OEM sealant is the only way to go.

KBGRIZZLY64 11-09-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew888 (Post 4152107)
Fujibond, Hondabond, or the like. OEM sealant is the only way to go.

Ya I tried to see if I was leaking after last night but nothing yet... Hoping its fixed but have a feeling that I'm still leaking... OEM sealant is only 40 bucks a bottle sadly ha

mwm5094 11-11-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew888 (Post 4152107)
Fujibond, Hondabond, or the like. OEM sealant is the only way to go.

I disagree. I use "make-a-gasket" its from advance and fully dries once in place in 1 minute. Its like $20 but I have used it several times and it works flawlessly. Plus it is a breeze to apply.

2manysubies 11-11-2012 03:16 PM

Yea,
Jack the motor a couple inches, use a 1/4" drive swivel 10mm socket, not a separate socket, I use thick super glue on the clean pan, install gasket, drop bolts from top to align holes, spray some accelerator to lock up the gasket,(like 2 seconds),(you can get the thick CA glue and accelerator at any good hobby shop) Gasket stays where put(make sure your oil pan does not have raised holes from over-tightening, if it does hit the high spots with a ball peen hammer, put nothing on gasket, You will be able to maneuver pan with gasket over Pick-up easily, bolt it up, center out X pattern. new O's on dipstick tube, good to go.

Mac

SBT 11-14-2012 07:01 PM

What gasket are you referring to? Our oil pans only use Fujibond sealant?

2manysubies 11-15-2012 09:07 AM

Yes, That is what is supposed to be on them. I have used that as well along with Suzuki bond and that type, I have found through my experience that if you have to maneuver the item(like the oil pan) and it's not stand up bench work, It's much easier to "glue" it on the pan. I've done this technique many times with successful results, just an option if one chooses to try it. The CA glue,(there are different viscosity's/setup times) is available at hobby stores and an accelerator is available to instantly set the glue, gives one time to get it where it needs to be and 1 squirt, instant set up. Just a trick of the trade.

R/Mac

mwiener2 11-15-2012 09:16 AM

So the bent oil pan... was it actually causing any problems, or you just wanted a perfect car?

GTTuner 11-15-2012 09:57 AM

Jack the shit out of the motor, never had a problem doing a pan in the car. Subaru uses a form in place, not a cut gasket.


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