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Higuma 11-05-2012 05:57 PM

New Legacy "STi tS" model debut in Japan
Front page banners on the Japanese STi website is announcing the debut of the 2013 Legacy STi tS version on November 13...

No specs or leaked photos other than these but it does look like it is going to be Normally aspirated ( NA ) and not the FA20 Turbo like the one coming in my car...

dmanaenk 11-05-2012 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Higuma (Post 4145589)
but it does look like it is going to be Normally aspirated ( NA )

How do you figure?

Higuma 11-05-2012 06:05 PM

My guess is it will have:

STi Wheels w/ Bridgestone RE 050 ( same as GT in Japan )
STi Seats & interior ( full leather with STi stitching and carbon accents )
STi Brembo brakes
STi Badging incl. shifter etc.,
STi Springs and strut stiffeners

Limited to either 300 or 600 units only...

Motor is a guess but perhaps a STi version of the non turbo 2.5l around 275ps

I think that they are keeping it non-turbo so that they can offer a 6spd manual or traditional Automatic ( future turbos will be mated to special CVT )

EyeSight will be an option ( it's shown in one of the photos )

Higuma 11-05-2012 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by dmanaenk (Post 4145601)
How do you figure?

Because that is what the Banner says / suggests by saying:

tS x NA engine... ( normally aspirated )...

famaya26 11-05-2012 06:12 PM

Edit: See post below

famaya26 11-05-2012 06:20 PM

Wasn't this news since 2010?

Higuma 11-05-2012 06:30 PM


famaya26;4145630]Wasn't this news since 2010?
As you can see from here...

There was a 2010 model produced ( limited to 600 production units ) but not a 2011 or 2012 model...

There will now be a 2013 model however...

famaya26 11-05-2012 06:36 PM

Ah got ya, so it's not coming to the states. :(

Higuma 11-05-2012 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by famaya26 (Post 4145660)
Ah got ya, so it's not coming to the states. :(

The upside for those of you not in Japan has always been that the tS model releases in Japan have meant a surge in STi parts development for the current model year...

Many / most of the bits you see come on the tS models will be available to the public - that can't be all bad can it ?

laufu 11-06-2012 03:03 PM

Thanks for posting Higuma. I assume you can read Japanese, so would you be so kind and translate all the juicy details for us on Nov 13.

Also I see you have/will be getting a 2.0 GT Legacy. I hope you can give us a review of the FA 2.0 DIT and the CVT. Oh and plenty of pictures too!!

Giffle 11-06-2012 05:12 PM

Thanks for this post Higuma.

Why can't we have a nice wagon like this in N-A instead of a whole bunch of ridiculous SUV's?

Drift Motion 11-06-2012 05:27 PM

because that's what the general public buys

Higuma 11-06-2012 05:45 PM

Et al... I will report the info on the tS when it is released next week - it's going to be a bit bittersweet because I have been patiently waiting for my DIT to be produced and it's getting close when they announce the tS... :(

All in all I would lobe to have some of the more exclusive STi bits and pieces but I am not willing to sacrifice the 2.0L DIT and it looks like the tS will be a NA 2.5L...

The update on my LTW is - last week went to the dealer to drop off a couple of bits for them to install when it arrives and they said that on Tuesday 10/31 the production update told them that my car's production should complete between the 10th and 20th of this month - then it has to go by boat to get here in Hokkaido after which all the dealer installed options will get installed etc., - - should be able to pick it up before Dec 1 but don't know for sure at this point...

Higuma 11-06-2012 06:07 PM


Also I see you have/will be getting a 2.0 GT Legacy. I hope you can give us a review of the FA 2.0 DIT and the CVT. Oh and plenty of pictures too!!
I test drove the 2.0 DIT twice and can tell you that it rocks...

CVT is of no particular concern because in S# mode the transmission defaults to a 8 speed automatic ( they call it 8 "step" in Japanese ) which can be fully auto in D or shift as you wish in M... If you are in S "sport" mode it will CVT or use a 6 speed pattern in M with paddle shifters...

On the 2nd test drive ( after ordering the car ) the staff let me drive it unaccompanied so I did a quick 0-100kmh run ~ 0-60mph ~ ( only once because the wife was severely UNimpressed ) with a iPhone as stopwatch...

Unscientific but - S#mode - D - on brakes w/ revs up to 2100 and let her rip... Under those conditions it was around 5.3 seconds but I am sure that could be improved upon easy enough - - trans felt VERY solid under that load...

Car pulled very hard off the line - no doubt due to the torque peak starting at 2,000 rpm and staying steady to 4800... My biggest surprise was just how much of a "grunter" this motor is - - BAGS of torque way down low in the powerband and we all know that torque is what makes a motor "QUICK" - - not HP...

This was the 2nd demo car - first was black and looked real nice but I fell in love with the SWP when I saw it the first time...

You can just see the bum of my Skyline, in the first picture, looking dejected because we just told her she was going to a different home....

laufu 11-07-2012 01:58 PM

Wow thanks for the information, yet I am so jealous of you right now.

Question, is the 2.0 DIT a special order in Japan or did you order the car a certain way?

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