winnipegsubaru Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Hey everyone, below is a write up I did for myself as I am trying to install the OEM nav into an 06 2.5i legacy. If you could read the below, and comment on any info you might have (ie if I have the pins correct, or possibly where the connector is located in the car) That would be great. I was originaly going to pull the wires off the OP connector, but since my 2006 Subaru does not seem to have an OP connector, I decided to pull as much as I can off the clock connector. I have yet to install this, I have just been doing my homework thus far Looking at the back side (where the wires are) [Nav System Screen] 10 Pin i50 Connector (looking from the back side) [Nav System DVD Player] Pin 1 = NC Pin 2 = To Pin 7 on Screen Pin 3 = NC Pin 4 = NC Pin 5 = To Pin 4 on Screen Pin 6 = Ground Pin 7 = To Pin 8 on Screen Pin 8 = To Pin 11 on Screen Pin 9 = NC Pin 10= To Pin 12 on Screen Once I get this all sorted out, I will work on the audio portion of it. Hope this helps someone else down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Edit ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, So I made my full harness. The following picture is of my home made breakout harness (takes all but 4 wires from the clock connector, Which I did not cut) Then it goes down to the dvd player, the white wire hanging out is a chassis ground (will ground to seat post probably) These are 3 of the wires that I mentioned above, these go to the i10 connector behind the gauges. The 4th wire that doesnt go to the clock connector is the reverse signal. Since I dont currently have a backup camera, I opted to not connect this. I then did a quick test in the car (didnt worry about the 3 wires to behind the gauges for this test) and WOOHOO it works. Ran the car for about 20 min, just to verify that the wire wasnt to thin. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- OK, so I have made my adapter to go from the clock harness to the 16pin nav screen. See below. Just a side note, I still need to tap a few of these wires to run to the DVD player that will be under the drivers seat. I am trying to take my time at this, to cut as few wires as possible, and to do the install correctly. If anyone has any input that would be great. Also, there are still 4 wires that are not accounted for 2 canbus wires, 1 VDC, and 1 Reverse Thanks ***Note: Big Thanks to BigTDogg to finding the connectors to extend / adapt the clock harness connector.*** ** If you would like to buy these connectors and pins please look here: *http://easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/040_Connectors/040_connectors.html Edit - November 19th 2012 - Adding connector Part Numbers Vendor Part Number Description Location Tyco 174147-2 16-pin Harness Back of Screen Tyco 174047-2 20-pin Harness Back of Screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 -------EDIT May 22nd 2012 -------- Alright, so I install the nav over the weekend. Using the pinout and my home made harness in the first two posts. The only wires that I needed to use vampire taps on, were for the 3 wires behind the guages (VDC, Can Bus, and other Can Bus) Here are some pics of the nav installed. I am still planning on putting an 08 radio that I have back into the car, and get the voice control of the nav to work. That will be another day soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'd pull the BATT + from somewhere else. The fuse on the OP Connector is 7.5A I believe, but on the car with factory nav the nav system is on a 20A fuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J450N Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I know on my 2008 LGT I would need to tap two wires behind the speedometer/cluster. I am not sure if it is different for your model year. Also, did you see any of these threads? They helped me significantly with all of my navi and audio builds/mods: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/vehicle-speed-signal-and-navigation-28802.html?t=28802&highlight=speed+signal and http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/official-dual-hvac-double-din-jdm-kit-thread-113589.html and http://ae64.com/Legacy-pinout.htm I apologize if you already mentioned this, I only skimmed your threads on this subject. I have ordered harnesses from the last site and that guy is really amazing. Very helpful! Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J450N Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Almost forgot this one. Hope it's not too discouraging. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/those-thought-they-would-install-factory-nav-22826.html?t=22826&highlight=rear+seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Thanks for the links, I have seen almost all of them. My problem is the 2006 2.5i doesnt have the computer thing in the cluster, its all built into the clock. My clock doesnt even have the air bag indicator in it, that is on the headliner in my car. So I think 90% of my connections i need are on the clock harness, but I cant find a good pinout for it. Everything I find refers to the GT's. I need to find vacation pics for an 06 2.5i not for the gt's.... its proving difficult... lol thanks for your input though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I need to find vacation pics for an 06 2.5i not for the gt's.... its proving difficult... lol It should be the same. Any differences are noted on the diagrams. I know the 2005 vaca pix are like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 As it turns out, after doing some investigation in my dash, the clock in my 06 is the same as the one in the 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Just a Progess Bump. See the First 3 Posts. Thanks everyone for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoojammyflip Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Thanks for posting - I'm trying to do this with an '06 UK sat nav into an '04 2.0 GT (JDM) I will study your work a bit more closely later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dade Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Hey everyone, below is a write up I did for myself as I am trying to install the OEM nav into an 06 2.5i legacy. If you could read the below, and comment on any info you might have (ie if I have the pins correct, or possibly where the connector is located in the car) That would be great. I was originaly going to pull the wires off the OP connector, but since my 2006 Subaru does not seem to have an OP connector, I decided to pull as much as I can off the clock connector. I have yet to install this, I have just been doing my homework thus far Looking at the back side (where the wires are) [Nav System Screen] [ATTACH]118169[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]118341[/ATTACH] 10 Pin i50 Connector (looking from the back side) [Nav System DVD Player] [ATTACH]118168[/ATTACH] Pin 1 = NC Pin 2 = To Pin 7 on Screen Pin 3 = NC Pin 4 = NC Pin 5 = To Pin 4 on Screen Pin 6 = Ground Pin 7 = To Pin 8 on Screen Pin 8 = To Pin 11 on Screen Pin 9 = NC Pin 10= To Pin 12 on Screen Once I get this all sorted out, I will work on the audio portion of it. Hope this helps someone else down the road Audio out should be on the other 20 pin nav connector. Do you have the connector for it? I'm excited to see how the audio works out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoojammyflip Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Pins 3, 15 & 16 all seem to be be ground and pins 7 & 8 seem to be power - If I connect the grounded pins to earth and power pins to +12v from a computer PSU should the screen come on? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 You should be able connect the 3 grounds to a black wire on a computer PSU and the two powers to a yellow wire (for 12 volt) I do believe the screen would come on. (But I have never tried it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoojammyflip Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 You should be able connect the 3 grounds to a black wire on a computer PSU and the two powers to a yellow wire (for 12 volt) I do believe the screen would come on. (But I have never tried it) Thanks for the encouragement I gave it a bash... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Legacy%20Twinscroll/Sat%20Nav/c7953b1a.jpg Dodgey connections R Us http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Legacy%20Twinscroll/Sat%20Nav/e9eb6056.jpg I have managed to strip most of the wiring out of the donor car and also the audio part will seperate out if you get the chance at a scrap car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 Nice to see that it worked for you Your screen actually looks a bit different than mine... I guess the JDM one is that much different. What kind of GPS does it have.... is it DVD based as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoojammyflip Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 The kit is from a UK 2006 car as far as I know... It is DVD based (Kenwood part No. FVZ201ERF2 ) and it sits behind the glove box in the top RHS where the little cubby is in non sat nav cars... The screen is Kenwood Part No. FGZ201ERF2 I also have the round brown cable and the GPS unit. The white connector in your photos - is it the male connector to match the clock female part? - or the smaller white one above it in this photo? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Legacy%20Twinscroll/Bluetooth%20stuff/cf8fcd33.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 Yes it is the one to match the clock connector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoojammyflip Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Yes it is the one to match the clock connector I can't find that connector available to the UK $4 and $5000 P&P LOL - Might have to do a bodge on the connector Is it possible to get the pins with out a block and poke them in to the required positions and then set the whole thing in a block of resin or something? Effectively create a block connector? - just a thought... I amalgamated all your wiring connections into a chart to make it a bit simpler for my befudled brain If you could check I have understood your plans and it might help someone else too... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Legacy%20Twinscroll/Sat%20Nav/fb723951.jpg In case it helps anyone else - this is my clock connector... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Legacy%20Twinscroll/Sat%20Nav/34cf08ed.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Legacy%20Twinscroll/Sat%20Nav/5bcdfd93.jpg As well as the cubby light power connector ( V and BY I think ) there is also this one... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Legacy%20Twinscroll/Sat%20Nav/d568b058.jpg P, BW and 2x V - don't know where that comes from / goes to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hey your chart looks good. Also if your interested I have almost finished my install with the KNA-G510 instead of the DVD nav. I will post my final wiring for the different NAV once I get the rest of the parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoojammyflip Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Yes that would be interesting I powered up my Nav unit today and found there is a disc... ver 2.0 2004-2005 LOL I've only got the 3 sockets on the back of my screen - no yellow video input - but there are some extra sockets on the Nav/DVD unit... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Legacy%20Twinscroll/Sat%20Nav/cb30d623.jpg Anyone know what they are for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegsubaru Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 I know one of the round ports is for a microphone so you can input your desired address by voice.... the rest I have no idea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoojammyflip Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I know one of the round ports is for a microphone so you can input your desired address by voice.... the rest I have no idea.... I have the Subaru Bluetooth phone kit based on the Parrot CK3000 I think that will interface with the Sat Nav and screen... Fingers crossed LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoojammyflip Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Thought I'd put a bit of time in and get it vagely functional for a show Some dodgey connection work in lieu of being able to get hold of the correct connector Just using the clock connections at the moment. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Changing%20wheels%20day/4727347c.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Changing%20wheels%20day/e0398e0d.jpg Looks OK fitted, diming function works too... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/hoojamyflip/Changing%20wheels%20day/888d2194.jpg Anyone know if the twisted pair of pink and violet canbus wires can come from any source - or if they have to be the ones from behind the speedo assembly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dade Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I know one of the round ports is for a microphone so you can input your desired address by voice.... the rest I have no idea.... The connectors are for the push to talk voice control function. See this thread. http://i.seimg.net/images/17673/main/knavc300.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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