xt2005bonbon Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 alright. We all know about the infamous banjo bolt filter on the passenger side that can get clogged and kill our turbos (yes we do have another one the driver side behind the timing belt cover, but let's skip this one for now..). There is a looooooong thread about how to change it. I've used it to do the job on my car. I felt that it'll be useful to have a thread just addressing how often one should inspect and/or change it. This is assuming one does not want to get rid of it of course. So here is the question: how often should one do this? I provide a poll that may help people in the future. I hope you'll all vote. 2007 TSB about it: here http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65157&d=1237512742 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesuby Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 How about never? I change my oil every two months (2500-3000 miles) and use synthetic (which should produce some outrage about how wasteful that is). I'm thinking keep it clean and nothing gets plugged up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Poll is flawed. You left out "remove it" That is the only safe thing to do. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Poll is flawed. You left out "remove it" That is the only safe thing to do. I understand. But that's why I said in my original post that this question is asked assuming one does not want to remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__raj Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 3k oil changer using whatever dino since brand new. Car is running happily with 125k no engine/turbo problems(yet...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I understand. But that's why I said in my original post that this question is asked assuming one does not want to remove it. I'm saying not removing it is a bad assumption. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 3k oil changer using whatever dino since brand new. Car is running happily with 125k no engine/turbo problems(yet...) I had the same thing until about 142,000 miles and I got the P0011 and P0021 cel. Turbo was toast a few miles later. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 I'm saying not removing it is a bad assumption. you're saying "not inspecting it at all" is a bad assumption or "not getting rid of it" is a bad assumption? Sorry, just making sure I understand your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER DOWN Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I vote every 30k. If you going to leave it in. Other then that, this is what I would do. 1) Check it at 30k, if filter bolts are clean. Remove them, because you oil & filter for your OCI's is doing it'd job. If dirty; 2) Replace filter bolts with new\clean ones. Upgrade to a better oil & filter. Recheck 30k later. repeat 1&2 until the filter bolts are clean, so you can get rid of them. What I did & why I did it. http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1326330&postcount=158 http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3703058&postcount=813 Mike Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonation Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Remove it when you put your uppipe on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 I vote every 30k. If you going to leave it in. Other then that, this is what I would do. 1) Check it at 30k, if filter bolts are clean. Remove them, because you oil & filter for your OCI's is doing it'd job. If dirty; 2) Replace filter bolts with new\clean ones. Upgrade to a better oil & filter. Recheck 30k later. repeat 1&2 until the filter bolts are clean, so you can get rid of them. What I did & why I did it. http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1326330&postcount=158 http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3703058&postcount=813 Mike interesting strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 you're saying "not inspecting it at all" is a bad assumption or "not getting rid of it" is a bad assumption? Sorry, just making sure I understand your point. I'm saying, remove it at the first chance you have. I believe I've read here that they were removed by the factory on later models. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 I think it may be still be present in earlier models, just different location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccorry Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I checked mine at 125K miles when I pulled the motor to do a clutch change. First time it had ever been out. Nothing in the filter. You didn't give me an option for longer... so I voted every 60K miles... but I think it should be longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 You didn't give me an option for longer... so I voted every 60K miles... but I think it should be longer. sorry man. I thought 60K was plenty already. Can no longer change poll options.. I guess I am way paranoid about that thing. changed that filter 10K ago and I am already wanting to check it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted January 21, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted January 21, 2012 It is irresponsible to even have these still installed. A banjo bolt and a vf40 is a ticking time bomb unless you are running a bypass oil filtration system like hmmrdwn. Remove remove remove "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER DOWN Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 ^^^ :rolleyes:You mean Hammer Down:lol: Mike Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Added two additional poll elements: Remove it completely Never - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'm at 125,000 and have neither checked, nor pulled mine. With a 3250 OCI, and a magnetic oil drain plug, never have had any indication that it's needed. Know that some turbo mfgrs recommend it, and I will remove it when I upgrade to my IP&T oil line and filter with the BNR 68HTA. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Added two additional poll elements: Remove it completely Never thanks SBT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonation Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I'm at 125,000 and have neither checked, nor pulled mine. With a 3250 OCI, and a magnetic oil drain plug, never have had any indication that it's needed. Know that some turbo mfgrs recommend it, and I will remove it when I upgrade to my IP&T oil line and filter with the BNR 68HTA. Where did you get that? Sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 FP and BNR both recommend/require the banjo bolt filter to be pulled... and there's a Subaru TSB about it as well (or at least checking it IIRC). - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee07 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yeah, I think mines still in there too. I never checked it in the 3 years I owned it. It may or may not be in there as I was the 3rd owner. 90k on stock engine/turbo and still pulling hard like 3 years ago. I'll "remove"(if it's there) it when I'm taking it to the tuner for the up pipe install. Was never concerned about as I changed the oil every 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I guess I am way paranoid about that thing. changed that filter 10K ago and I am already wanting to check it.. How did it look 10k miles ago when it was replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 provided a TSB about it in original post. Note that they basically only say that you need to check it, and replace if needed. They don't say anything about removing it for good (not trying to start argument, just summarizing TSB). And they emphasize shorter OCIs. FYI.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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