blahmoua Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Hi I'm a noob and I was wondering what would be better for me money wise and availability. I currently have a 2005 legacy gt automatic with a blown motor. I was wondering what to do whether to just try to find another legacy gt motor or swap in a sti. Also would it be possible to switch from an automatic to manual with a sti engine. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08Legacy08 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 You should run a search.... but being that you are new here, I'll suggest you find a used engine from a junkyard and drop it in. Then, rebuild your old one over time. You could also dissasemble your current one and find out what is wrong with it. Used short blocks can be had for around $600. Swap the heads over... Do not use STI engine. Auto to Manual swap is not easy. Search this topic as well. Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car_cursed Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 auto to manual would be cost prohibitive, what is wrong do you just need a new shortblock? Whole new engine? What mods are done, you need to provide a lot more detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 drop in a buick 3.8 v6 in for more power and better fuel economy Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 What is wrong with the motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 New OEM ej257 is $1800. google, "got some new stuff for engine R&R" you'll get my thread. That will give you the idea of what you need to do. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 yea what happened to engine? I blew mine by oil dehydration and overrevving and just got a new shortblock and its fine almost 15k miles later. ofcourse i did also change some stuff along the way while i was in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robitrice Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 You should run a search.... but being that you are new here, I'll suggest you find a used engine from a junkyard and drop it in. Then, rebuild your old one over time. You could also dissasemble your current one and find out what is wrong with it. Used short blocks can be had for around $600. Swap the heads over... Do not use STI engine. Auto to Manual swap is not easy. Search this topic as well. Shaun and why should he not use the STI engine!? I would suggest buying a new short block if you can afford the down time. Get your heads rebuilt and put on the short block and call it a day. If you need a quick turnaround find a used motor from a reputable place and swap that in and start saving for either a rebuild on the blown or for a new shortblock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 ^ When mine blew I looked for used motors and I figured out it was more cost effective to get a new ej257, plus my shop did then rebuild in less than a week. Which to me was faster and better than getting an used engine from who knows were, in who know what kind of condition it is, and on top of that waiting on shipping. To me, that was to many uncertain and unknown variables and I opt for something more reliable and done right, the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 the engine in a legacy is the same as a sti engine . if you get a sti engine either without avcs or with dual you will have endless electrical problems Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahmoua Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 I'm not really sure what happened to the engine because a series of events. The turbo blew out and I took it to a small dealer and he blew another turbo in it. Said he checked the oil and thought it was coming too little for the turbo so he drilled it bigger. Got the car back for about a month and then the engine blew while i was out of town. The subuaru dealer that I sent to look at it said that it was oil starved and not much else. Also I wasn't the one driving the car when the engine blew so I'm not sure if my girlfriend's sister was over revving it since its a auto with that transmanual or what actually happened when it was dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahmoua Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 My car sounded like shit like everything was just jamming around and clanking around. So I'm not really quite sure if a short block is all I need. It looked like it was in pretty bad shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 You need a new OEM ej257, the heads need to be rebuilt, that way they will clean them and there will be no metal chips leftover. Hopefully your cams are ok. You need new oil cooler, turbo, oil pump, gates timing belt kit, have the oil pan cleaned, remove both banjo filters or replace them. I have both removed. Hopefully that is all you need. See my thread, got some new stuff for engine R&R, if you want to see what I did. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/got-some-new-stuff-engine-r-r-184106p7.html 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08Legacy08 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 and why should he not use the STI engine!? I would suggest buying a new short block if you can afford the down time. Get your heads rebuilt and put on the short block and call it a day. If you need a quick turnaround find a used motor from a reputable place and swap that in and start saving for either a rebuild on the blown or for a new shortblock. An STI ENGINE will have different heads (depending on the year) thus Dual AVCS, which will require engine harness and computer. STI SHORT BLOCK is virtually the same as EJ255. In addition, questions regarding swapping to manual transmission, in the same thread, indicates to me that tho OP might not know the differences between engines. The Quickest way out is to swap out engines and have a spare to tear down and build. Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreyna Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 You need a new OEM ej257, the heads need to be rebuilt, that way they will clean them and there will be no metal chips leftover. Hopefully your cams are ok. You need new oil cooler, turbo, oil pump, gates timing belt kit, have the oil pan cleaned, remove both banjo filters or replace them. I have both removed. Hopefully that is all you need. See my thread, got some new stuff for engine R&R, if you want to see what I did. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/got-some-new-stuff-engine-r-r-184106p7.html ^ This is what I did. Except my heads were good since I immediately stopped stopped trying to run the car when I heard noises in my engine. Rebuilding it would give a better piece of mine but it can easily cost 5K-6k or more depending on it you need another turbo then you add that cost. Plus I would recommend you changing out every fluid in the car while your at it: diff oil, tranny oil, brake oil, etc. WAIT?! Isn't there any way, guys that he can pin this on the dealer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 just put in a v6 big ass turbo cost you about 1K and time. then you wont need to change it to automatic because it will have some torque Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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