jhow257415 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 OK soooooo I read about this on several forums with very few remedies if any! Purchased the Kartboy front and rear sway bar end-link combo kit recently. Just noticed today that with the steering turned wheel (completely/fully turned) to the left or to the right there is noise contact with the tie rods (metal on metal) and the end links. There is also a consequential grinding noise! My car is stock suspension other than the bar…has NOT been lowered or altered in any way than the bar. My sway bar is Rallitek (Non-Turbo). The top of the endlink/swaybar connection point is rubbing the bottom of the tie rod. This is happening on both sides. Anybody have this problem? What was done to fix it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwm5094 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Did they send you the right part? IIR just sent my buddy WRX sways for his STI...we didnt know until they were on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_KT Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Out of curiosity, did you notice if the front and rear endlinks were the same length? I'll get under my car sometime this evening to measure the fronts. As a heads-up, the answer to the question is that the fronts should be shorter than the rears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 @ mwm5094, cant tell if its the right part for sure, however the sticker (provided below) says that its the right part, but who knows what goes it the packaging, ya know. Contacted Kartboy and the say that they think it may be the wrong bar, because to him (Tom) it does not look wide enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamal Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Assuming you have the shorter links on the front, the bar should reach farther back. Maybe you got one for a pre-05? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 @ Jim_KT the endlinks were def. a different size! The front links are smaller than the rear as you stated. I think I will give Rallitek a call because the sticker above isnt specific to year or models!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 @jamal you might be right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Called Rallitek and they insist that it is the correct part!!!????? What to do, what to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Does the picture of the Turbo Bar look wider than the Non-Turbo bar, or is it just the angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Key detail the bars were installed on a lift with the suspension hanging and no weight/load on the vehicle. is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwm5094 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 The suspension under load just makes for easier installation. Other than that it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Assuming you have the correct bar and it was installed properly, the end should not come up under the tie rod like that. It looks like the bar itself was made/designed incorrectly as it does not come far enough pas the tie rod to make the endlink mount up vertically. Id get rid of the bar and pick up the Tribecca front bar instead which will fit your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Brought car back to the auto mechanic/shop that originally installed the sway bar’s. 1.5 hours of inspection and adjustments (with me in under the car assisting them)…and…still nothing. The mechanic is also leaning towards what #jamal and Kartboy have eluded to which is the bar might be the wrong bar. Rallitek still says it’s the correct bar. The bar actually looks about ¾ of an inch short. You really see this on the passenger side end link/sway bar connection point. The end link is reaching or leaning to the right in order to mate with the bar. Here are some more pics while on the lift and off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Also, the mechanic reported to me that the front wheel base (think he meant the width from one wheel to the other) is different from an Impreza, to an Outback, to a Legacy 2.5i. He could not understand why Rallitek would attempt to fit a universal bar for these 3 NA vehicles if the suspension components are different. Rallitek says that the components and width are the same!!!! I don’t know!!!!!!!!!!!!! With that said...Whitetiger i think you have the right idea thanks for the help btw. first i gotta wait to see what Rallitek will do in terms of feedback/fix/return/swap/refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Yup, I vote wrong bar as well. -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Call directly as We carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) | T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 As soon as I get a chance I'm going do a full uninstall, and re-install as opposed adjustments! I also have made some "Kartboy like" endlink spacers as well. If that does not work, I'm hoping that Ken or Sin at Rallitek will swap the bar out for a different one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 @AZP I have to stop by the shop one of these days I'm in Cranford, NJ a lot! Have family there on Elizabeth Ave. I take GSP 138 Exit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 My nod goes towards wrong bar as well, or a mis-manufactured bar. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamal Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Here's about how much clearance there should be: http://jamalb.net/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1018&g2_serialNumber=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 So, I resolved my issue…(Not Exactly). I tried to remedy this issue several times with no success. My solution was to opt for a different product. Rallitek supported me the entire way through my troubleshoot and even gave me a RRN number for my return. GREAT SERVICE from Rallitek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 I went from: FSB - Rallitek 22mm to B9 Tribeca 25mm. RSB - Rallitek 19mm to Cusco 21mm. Front Links - Kartboy to Rallitek HD. Rear Links - Kartboy, no changes! Painted the FSB, but I beat the Tribeca bar up pretty good upon install, plenty of paint chips/ scrapes. Here are some pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urfsin Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 That looks like it's installed wrong. Look at the way the bar is installed on Jamal's post and you will see what I am talking about. Slide It Sideways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhow257415 Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 The Tribeca bar is a reverse fit than the Legacy...the dark blue metallic bar is a tribeca bar which arches over the top of the tie rod instead of underneath it like the traditional Legacy, Impreza, forester, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urfsin Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I guess you learn something new everyday! Slide It Sideways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustangendsley Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yes. Those front endlinks are way to far leaning in. Wrong bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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