msilin Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Anyone tried this oil? http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_ESP_Formula_M_5W-40.aspx I live in San jose , mediterranean climate, our hot days can be cold in the mornings. Will this be a good oil for me? My local NAPA ordered 6 bottles for 40 bucks, great deal compared to oreily (12 bucks a bottle). With all the talk about Rotella T6 I wanted to try something without Diesel on the front of the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJr Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Haven't tried it. Do you have a turbo? Stick with T6 5w40 if you do! T6 is about $25. My T6 does just fine in our <35 degree mornings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 What he ^ said or Castrol Syntec 5w-40, the t6 is easy to find. I'm using Amsoil European Full SAPS 5w-40 5-6000 mile oil change intervals. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooslick Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 The Mobil 1/ESP is a very low ash, low ZDDP oil intended for the latest turbo diesels with particle filters. Due to the very low level of additives, it will not last very long in a gas engine turbo. If you're changing oil at 3000-5000 miles it will be okay, but there are better choices available from Mobil, including their 0w-40 European Formula, or 10w-40, High Mileage (HM), version of Mobil 1. The HM label is mainly advertising nonsense, but this is a good product. TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesubie Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The Mobil 1/ESP is a very low ash, low ZDDP oil intended for the latest turbo diesels with particle filters. Due to the very low level of additives, it will not last very long in a gas engine turbo. If you're changing oil at 3000-5000 miles it will be okay, but there are better choices available from Mobil, including their 0w-40 European Formula, or 10w-40, High Mileage (HM), version of Mobil 1. The HM label is mainly advertising nonsense, but this is a good product. TS In other words, M1 ESP is girly man oil because of it's lower ZDDP levels. I wouldn't exceed 3,750 miles on the oil if you drive hard, or maybe 5k if you're an easy driver. Your best bet is to do a uoa with a TBN to determine a safe interval. -Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooslick Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Dennis, I haven't done the testing in my personal vehicles to really tell how long this stuff lasts. The starting TBN's are in the 5.5-6.5 range, however I suspect that TBN retention is very good. I may have to try the Amsoil 5w-30 Euro Formula in the Audi TT to get some actual test data.... TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesubie Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Dennis, I haven't done the testing in my personal vehicles to really tell how long this stuff lasts. The starting TBN's are in the 5.5-6.5 range, however I suspect that TBN retention is very good. I may have to try the Amsoil 5w-30 Euro Formula in the Audi TT to get some actual test data.... TS gathermewool over at iwsti and bitog is running the Amsoil 5W-30 Euro in his modified STI. At 6,854 miles, the TBN was 1.4. I believe Polaris/Oil Analyzer's Inc would flag this as a problem. Looks like Dyson may have as well. He also had a slight uptick in wear metals. http://www.iwsti.com/forums/2-5-liter-litre-factory-motor/243834-2008-sti-6854-miles-oci-amsoil-euro-5w-30-a.html A 5k mile run probably would have looked much better. Can you really have your cake and eat it to? Nah, give me high levels of AW additives! msilin - If you have a turbo, then M1 0W-40 is a very good choice IMO. Especially the SN verison. Actually, if you email Mobil1 about a recommendation for your application they probably would not recommend ESP. -Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooslick Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Dennis, I'd never run a 5w-30 in an STI. He'd do much better with the Amsoil 10w-40, or at least the DEO (their thickest 5w-40). The low SAPS oils certainly don't last that long in turbocharged gas engines, using North American fuels.... Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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