I don't know about ghetto...see post 308, but this setup works. I am playing with the camber on the front, gonna actually take it out of OEM max. (-.6 now which is max OEM) Adding the adjustable rear control arms has allowed me to really experiment. A friend that races SCCA Auto Cross runs his daily driver at -1.5 with minimal wear as long as he breaks the tires down and swaps sides every other rotation. I am going to move the front to -1 and see what that does for me, lookinf for that "flickability";)
I guess it all depends on what you are looking for. If you want to maintain stock appearance and ride so you can share the daily driver with the little lady or if you want to eat up the twisties on the way to work and play every day.
Most of you really disliked the Tien's, I don't know if it was a different car or personal experience, or if it was word of mouth but I have not found the ride to be bad for what I use the car for, and on the interstates it is awesome. More testing to do and I really have not started playing with the shocks...yet:rolleyes: So far it is good for me.