View Full Version : Which engine/trim model will you pick up.
Sedan and Wagon agnostic poll.
goneskiian
01-13-2004, 11:40 PM
I'll take a wagon please! In Silver Metallic, Atlantic Blue Pearl or maybe White. If the McIntosh is an option through that in as well! :D :shock: :lol:
I may even have to change the wheels out to those cool 5 spokes that they offer as an option on the WRX right now. If they offer them. They'd look sweet on a silver wagon.
-Ian
team23jordan
01-13-2004, 11:40 PM
i'll be getting
GT or GT limited SEDAN
either black,red,silver or white
most likely full option maybe full option with some things i dont like off
gonna get STi spoiler and wheels :)
goneskiian
01-13-2004, 11:55 PM
team23,
If you haven't already go check out www.need-desire.com. You're question shall be answered.
Oh wait, I see you posted in the 2005 Legacy Key Features thread. Did you not read it?
Just giving you a hard time. :wink:
-Ian
team23jordan
01-14-2004, 12:00 AM
OH STUPID ME
i went to need desire web site million times
and i just noticed 2.5 GT and GT LTD
and i was like what the hell is LTD???ooooh limited! :cry: stupid me :lol:
i'll be gettin GT LIMITED
PPower
01-14-2004, 12:17 AM
It will depend on pricing I imagine. If the LTD price increase is reasonable, I may have to just suck up the extra weight. Somehow, I find it easier to have LTD on the wagon and base on the sedan. It's probably that way cool 2 pane moonroof and hopes for a reclining rear seat.
legacy2ner
01-14-2004, 12:58 AM
GT LTD. Im going to get it fully loaded.
AMT4SWA
01-14-2004, 08:18 AM
GT Limited... Gray (if they have it), Silver, or Dark Blue.
Dr. Zevil
01-14-2004, 02:26 PM
Limited.. either silver or white fully loaded! WOOHOO!
sedan GT, white, i'd consider a sunroof but don't want leather in either black or cream. might consider a dark brown leather if it existed.
legacy92ej22t
01-15-2004, 11:09 PM
GT Limited Sedan, loaded, either black, silver or white (I would really like that kinda gunmetal looking grey I've seen on some 1st gen Legacy turbos though) with the black leather interior unless something besides/better then the cream becomes available.
AMT4SWA
01-15-2004, 11:57 PM
Sounds like we WILL get an "LCD center upper stack display" as an option for the U.S. spec GT.....I wonder what data is provided (turbo boost and...???) on the display...looked like three items displayed in the LCD from several interior pictures shown in the interior photo threads.
gtmy04
01-16-2004, 12:08 AM
Sounds like we WILL get an "LCD center upper stack display" as an option for the U.S. spec GT.....I wonder what data is provided (turbo boost and...???) on the display...looked like three items displayed in the LCD from several interior pictures shown in the interior photo threads.
From the Owner's Manual, it would seem US will get similar set up to the Aussie spec car i.e. Outside Temperature, Instantaneous Fuel Consumption, Average Fuel Consumption (i.e. since the trip meter was reset with readings for both trip meters, depending which is selected at the time), Distance to Empty and Elapsed Trip Time.
As an aside the Oz spec fuel consumption units is km/litre, wheras the Australian standard unit is l/100km - even stranger when it shows LHD cars in metric countries are calibrated in l/100km ????
AMT4SWA
01-16-2004, 12:32 AM
Thats what the LCD is for...COOL! Now this is making sense to me...thanx!
PPower
01-16-2004, 10:05 AM
The trip computer appears to be on the lower edge of the LCD hole underneath the bin cover. Check out the interior pics on need-desire.com and zoom in. It is not the LCD screen that you are thinking that is for navigation and normally shows three digital gauges in most pictures. However, STi has a gauge pod that fits in the bin above the trip computer and holds three gauges.
waflowers
01-16-2004, 11:18 AM
I've had a deposit on the new Legacy with Mastro for 10 months now. I'm thinking of the GT Limited, but may drop down to the GT if the leather is too slippery. I can't decide if I'm going to autoX this car or not, but probably will.
Dr. Zevil
01-16-2004, 11:19 AM
So why is it that we think we are getting an LCD screen? I wonder how much that's gonna cast because I am sure I am going to have to have it :roll: :lol:
I am so predictable.
AMT4SWA
01-16-2004, 01:23 PM
I have read two press reports so far that talk about this "option" for the U.S. cars...different than NAV. We will soon find out I hope!
gtguy
01-16-2004, 01:28 PM
GT wagon. It will also be nice to be liberated from all the worrying about STi versions, etc, as Subaru won't be doing any of that stuff to wagons.
There might be a 6-speed, but I'm not convinced that more shifting is better, despite what its proponents suggest.
Kevin
PPower
01-16-2004, 01:40 PM
^It's not about the number of shifts. It's about getting a top cruising gear to help with fuel economy without sacrificing the lower gears for acceleration. Subaru definitely needs help in that area, and having shorter gearing than the WRX 5th gear isn't going to help. :( But for the power minded, the 5 should handle more than the 6. But for most people who won't touch the car for more power, a 6MT would work fine.
gtguy
01-16-2004, 07:40 PM
^It's not about the number of shifts. It's about getting a top cruising gear to help with fuel economy without sacrificing the lower gears for acceleration. Subaru definitely needs help in that area, and having shorter gearing than the WRX 5th gear isn't going to help. :( But for the power minded, the 5 should handle more than the 6. But for most people who won't touch the car for more power, a 6MT would work fine.
Indeed, I know that the 6-speed isn't about the number of shifts, it's about the final drive, and all that. But that's presuming that Subaru is thinking the same way that the 6-speed proponents are, which is doubtful.
The STi with its six-speed takes two shifts to get to 60 mph, my WRX wagon takes one. I vastly prefer the latter.
The fuel economy question is something that people also suggest would be enhanced by a 6-speed, but if the first four gears are chosen for acceleration, when you are accelerating hard, those injectors are spraying like angry skunks, man. :D I doubt that it would help fuel mileage at all. There is, however, no question that from a marketing perspective in this "more is better" market, Subaru would be able to say "Look, we have a 6-speed, just like those other guys." We're more likely to get it for that reason, than anything else.
Kevin
PPower
01-16-2004, 09:07 PM
It would help with CAFE ratings for the highway figures, and that is really where Subaru is in dire need of help with. I can't link pictures from where mine are, but I have done gearing comparisons along with other features. Compared to the Joneses, the Legacy has a short overall top gear. I still hold that the G35 is the closest competitor (TSX and Mazda6 are just too slow), and Spec B gears plus an appropriately spaced 6th would have matched the G perfectly. Then again, as you said, it can be nice to cruise so close to spool up.
team23jordan
01-16-2004, 09:11 PM
Mazda6 are just too slow
my brother has mazda 6 right now
and it's not "that" slow
TSX has WEAK engine
PPower
01-16-2004, 09:22 PM
Mazda6 are just too slow
my brother has mazda 6 right now
and it's not "that" slow
If that's how you feel, get ready to be blown away. You might want to make sure that the 2.5i isn't more your cup o tea. :P If it's as fast as I'm told it should be, you can really scare passengers by dropping the hammer. It won't compare to the G35, 330 performance pack, or any of those. You'll be talking faster than an E36 M3 but maybe slower than an E46.
Skylab™
01-17-2004, 06:08 AM
Six speeds are good. Speaking from experience, the Corvette ZR-1 (1991) easily achieves 25 mpg cruising at 80mph with the A/C on in 110*F weather. At that speed, the 32-valve motor is loping along at 1800rpm. *yawn*
If you can get the Legacy's turbo to wind down out of the power band, that would certainly help. We'll have to see the 65mph 5th gear RPM stats.
PPower
01-17-2004, 08:50 AM
^^yep, go look in the auto/MT thread. We're getting off topic anyway.
gtguy
01-17-2004, 11:50 AM
Six speeds are good. Speaking from experience, the Corvette ZR-1 (1991) easily achieves 25 mpg cruising at 80mph with the A/C on in 110*F weather. At that speed, the 32-valve motor is loping along at 1800rpm. *yawn*
If you can get the Legacy's turbo to wind down out of the power band, that would certainly help. We'll have to see the 65mph 5th gear RPM stats.
That ZR-1 also has four more cylinders. :D I'm not that concerned with fuel economy. When you're on boost, the car is going to suck gas. When you aren't, it won't. My wife can drive our WRX wagon for weeks without putting in gas. I'm good for (regular driving conditions) about four or five days before I have to fill it up.
Kevin
PPower
01-17-2004, 11:55 AM
unfortunately, a difference of a big displacement NA engine is a tall flat plateau of torque that even a 2.5T won't be able to match. In city driving, it will probably turn out that a 3.0 H6 could feel faster because of the lack of need to spool up which would be nice. It sure would be nice to get a 3.0R, but I don't know if that's going to happen for the US.
SUBE555
01-17-2004, 09:31 PM
Back to the trim I'd pick...
GT in Sedan Trim
I doubt she'd be staying stock for long. I like the seats in there decently (particularly with 4-heat settings in the non-leather seats, I think leather SUX), we'll find how much I like the fit at the Chicago Auto Show hopefully in February. Otherwise, I'll be upping to a set of JDM STi seats up front when I get mine next winter (unless an STi stares me down too hard and long first.) The stock wheels would likely be saved for winter once the RE92s were burned off. I'm thinking a set of Detroit F1's powdercoated in Bronze would be just mean along with windows tinted to whatever the NJ regulations are or if none, then decently dark. If STi 'pink' springs are available at time of purchase, those will go on immediately too.
It's all downhill from there for the other mods: probably just pads and lines for the brakes, perhaps just short-throw shifter for the drivetrain, other suspension would likely include hollow sway bars and HD mounts- possibly links, power would include a full turbo-back w/ H-F cat and up-pipe along with a reflash for starters.
It would be my AutoX/group-drive car. I want it to be one mean machine. :evil:
shelltox
01-19-2004, 03:43 PM
why settle for less? Of course it has to be the 2.5 GT LTD.
:lol:
titsataki
01-19-2004, 09:09 PM
GT limited Seadan.
Possibly a black one.
Cheers
Nick
SUBE555
01-19-2004, 09:20 PM
why settle for less? Of course it has to be the 2.5 GT LTD.
:lol:
Settle for less! Sometimes less is more in my book. Less money for car = more money for mods. :D