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The Don
01-25-2007, 01:07 PM
My car has been acting weird so i took some logs. im no xpert so my opinion doesnt mean as much. But it seems like something is deff wrong with it. If you could look them over an let me know what you think, or show me your log or how the log should look.
Im stage 2+ tdc protune. invidiaUP,cobbDP(catless),CBE, AEM CAI, Perrin TMIC.
Feels like there are surges in the flow of either air or gas.
on one log my engine RPM drops while under WOT than goes back up
my boost is up an down up an down...
an my first gear hits red line an cuts out untill about 4k or so than goes back.
Idk what ever help i can get will help thanks alot.

The Don
01-25-2007, 01:10 PM
a lil help uploading them it says there all errors. sry for this

i can email it to you other wise idk whats wrong with it...

mickeyd2005
01-25-2007, 01:28 PM
Try renaming the .csv files to .pdf. Just use "rename". Then upload them. Then put a comment in your post that these are actually .csv files.

We'll rename them after downloading.

The Don
01-25-2007, 03:27 PM
31003

31004

31006

31007

31008

31009

mickeyd2005
01-25-2007, 04:41 PM
Since this is a TDC tune, you should go to their forum and get instructions for datalogging and then email the log to TDC for a map update.

You're datalogging too many variables so I can't tell if there are jumps because of the wide time intervals.

Also, don't shift during a datalog. I think a continuous datalog from 2000 to redline in 3rd gear would be better.

It looks like you have a little bit of knock in log 4 and 5. In log 4, between rpm 2966 and 3328 and in log 5 between 2530 and 2952.

I didn't see the boost fluctuations but that could be because of the wide sample intervals.

The Don
01-25-2007, 05:11 PM
i think tdc is a lil busy i mentioned it before to them tho. ima get another log this weekend. what gears should i do/ what should be in the log so its not so much info..the boost thing im talking about..for instance in log 4..14.3...16.9...15.0...17.8...18.4...17.5...16.8. ..18.2...18.4...16.6...16.5...17.9
Thats my boost from WOT..it goes up, down, than boost goes back up???
I thought it was more like 10 14 15 17 16 15 13... unlike myn

mickeyd2005
01-25-2007, 05:20 PM
Okay. I'm looking at log 4 right now (not spending a lot of time looking at it).

Yes, your boost is fluctuating.

Peak boost should be about 18.5 psi at about 3800 rpm which looks about right. It then starts to taper... which looks about right.

Then at about 3861 rpm, it increases to 18.28 psi. There's knock at this point. At the next time interval, your wastegate opens to 81.6 %.

My guess is that this is boost creep. It shouldn't go back up. If it kept going up, you could get more knock. It appears that your ECU took care of it by adjusting your timing, but yes, you should get this looked at by a professional tuner.

Actually, thinking about it some more, I don't think this is boost creep... Boost creep would happen after the wastegate was wide open and the boost would keep building.

Skillz
01-26-2007, 09:04 AM
Don- Please keep us updated on what you find.

The Don
01-26-2007, 10:26 AM
Okay, Im going to try an get another log or 2...anything most important i should have, so there isnt too much info..

mickeyd2005
01-26-2007, 10:36 AM
Get rid of:

coolant temperature (make sure you are warmed up before logging)
vehicle speed (make sure you stay in 3rd gear)
battery voltage
exhaust gas temperature (we know you have a resistor)
defogger switch
manifold absolute pressure
atmospheric pressure (you can just write it down)
fuel temperature
fuel tank pressure
tumble valve position
fuel level
CPC valve duty
fuel pump duty
tumble valve position
accelerator opening angle

The Don
01-26-2007, 12:32 PM
I was just checking the first file and if you check the throttle opening and the Accelerator Opening Angle(%) you will see that im WOT peddle to the metal....yet my car cuts out. As soon as i hit redline in first gear...BTW im in sports mode.
I just wanted to show this. incase no knows or understands what im talking about.

mickeyd2005
01-26-2007, 12:35 PM
I saw that. You hit the rev limiter.

That's normal.

mspt
01-26-2007, 12:42 PM
lower wastegate duty to stop the fluctuating--cold weather--

The Don
01-29-2007, 12:03 AM
Didnt get the chance to get some logs this weekend but i noticed something else
under about 3/4ths throttle the car will boost lets say about 15psi..(normaly driving on the highway ) the car will randomly drop to 10 psi than go back to 15psi...almost as if something messes up the flow...it will keep doing it like every 30sec or min.