Radio Service Manual for 2005 thru 2006 Leagcy

[drcaveman]

I have the full service manual for the 2005 2006 legacy GT models CQ-EF1560L

Discovered that the radio has connections for both ONSTAR, from Subaru's GM days I guess, and satellite connections, not an electrician tho so can't understand the wiring diagrams.

I'll try for some pictures later

If you would like the Full Service Manual as a PDF for either MP3 Models, model# CQ-EF1560L, or non MP3 models, model# CQ-EF1561L I have both.

Send and email to drcavemanl06GTLTD@runbox do not abuse please.

If I miss anyones email just let me now the runbox spam filter ignores my setting and I occasionally by accident delete legit email.

Please specify which manual you want.

Thank you to mcwiggin (http://legacygt.com/forums/member.php?u=17433) for hosting these files.

The Links are:

www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1561l.pdf (http://www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1561l.pdf)

www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1560l.pdf (http://www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1560l.pdf)

[mickeyd2005]

Satellite connections? A lot of times you can wire something in for aux-in...

[drcaveman]

Satellite connections? A lot of times you can wire something in for aux-in...

I have 3 Pictures one is the block diagram,


The second is the display board

And the Third is closeup of where the function knob connects to the board you can see the satellite function is there just blocked out.

[Jon [in CT]]

I have the full service manual for the 2005 2006 legacy GT models CQ-EF1560LActually, as far as I can tell, the Panasonic CQ-EF1560L was used only in the 2006 spec.B and Outback VDC models (the ones with MP3 capability). The Subaru part # for that unit is 86201AG66A.

http://i4.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/81/12/a572_1.JPG

I'd love to have a copy of that service manual (I assume you have it in PDF format). Can you shoot a copy to Jon_in_CT@sbcglobal.net?

[drcaveman]

;935391']Actually, as far as I can tell, the Panasonic CQ-EF1560L was used only in the 2006 spec.B and Outback VDC models (the ones with MP3 capability). The Subaru part # for that unit is 86201AG66A.



I'd love to have a copy of that service manual (I assume you have it in PDF format). Can you shoot a copy to Jon_in_CT@sbcglobal.net?



My Bad I am actually still looking for the Legacy GT Model, but the I checked the board underneath the function button it has a SAT function only, but there appears to be no module for the unit.


Its about 5 MB in size let me now if you get it.


Look for and email from drcaveman

[gtwannabe]

Where did you find this manual? I have seached high and low and turned up nothing. Please share the whole manual if possible. I too, need the 2005 gt manual. but this one is close!
Thanks

[drcaveman]

Where did you find this manual? I have seached high and low and turned up nothing. Please share the whole manual if possible. I too, need the 2005 gt manual. but this one is close!
Thanks

It should be very close, the cover page states that for models without MP3 the only difference is the text button is replace by the RDM button and the CD Changer

What is the Legacy GT Radios Model number is it CQ-EF1561L?:icon_conf

I am not sure if I can post a 5MB PDF on the forum.

I have created an email Alias so if it gets abused I can delete it, but send requests to drcavemanl06GTLTD@runbox

[loak]

fresh off the non-mp3 playing headunit i just swapped out of my car

model number: 86201AG65A
ref. number: CQ-EF1561L

edit: email received, much obliged

[Jim_KT]

drcaveman, just sent you an email.

[Jim_KT]

fresh off the non-mp3 playing headunit i just swapped out of my car

model number: 86201AG65A
ref. number: CQ-EF1561L


Roger that.

Same here.

The MP3 unit that I installed was referenced as:
CQ-EF1560L

[gtwannabe]

Bad address? Tried to E-mail you and it was returned.

[drcaveman]

Bad address? Tried to E-mail you and it was returned.

It may have needed a few minutes to kick in give it another shot

[Jim_KT]

^^^^^^

Thank you!

[drcaveman]

^^^^^^

Thank you!

you are welcome.

As an Mechanical Engineer I don't understand the wiring diagrams but they look useful.

[Jim_KT]

I'm an EE, this gives me something to look over this weekend.

That is, if I can stave off the work that followed me home... :(

[drcaveman]

I'm an EE, this gives me something to look over this weekend.

That is, if I can stave off the work that followed me home... :(

I hate when work follows me home, just have drive faster to stay ahead of it:lol::lol::lol:

[gtwannabe]

Ok I have been looking over this manual, and I understand it pretty much, But maybe one of you ee types can take a look at IC 206 (vol/tone/fader IC) and tell me how I can defeat the loudness contour. Maybe by changing the cap and resitor values around pins 5,6,7 and 30,31,32? Also pins 4,and 8 at cn402 feed over to another input on IC 206 on pins 2,3 and 34,35. Any idea if we can fool the micro into turning this input on for an easy aux in? Any advice would be great. Lets put our heads together and make use of this valuable info that drcaveman has brought to us.

[Andyjo]

Wow! this would have been useful before i went hacking & soldering away at my radio... heh... I'll shoot you an email, so i can maybe improve my aux-in design :icon_wink

[zcarmob]

Where does the OEM subwoofer plug into?? Does it plug into CN402 and what pins does it use? The one page shows the Sub woofer using pins 1 and 7 but the schematic shows nothing connected to those pins.

Looking at the schematic pins 4 and 8 are for audio left and right. Pin 4 shows signal + but then goes to both Right and Left +, Pin 8 is signal - but then goes to Right and Left -. Then thers is Pin 2 and 6 they are for the satellite switch + and -.

I don't know but maybe if the stopper is removed from the FM/AM/CD selector and jumping the sat sw + and - connections the sat light will come on???

[Jon [in CT]]

Where does the OEM subwoofer plug into?? Does it plug into CN402 and what pins does it use?The OEM subwoofer doesn't plug into CN402. It plugs into the 14-pin main connector and has its own internal amplifier.

http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/downloadFree.jsp?doc_id=139124

[zuczek]

I'd like to figure out how does the radio/hvac switches the temperature display on the climate control from Farenheit to Celsius. I know it is dependand on what instrument cluster is installed in the car. With a Imperial cluster (US) the temp display shows in Farenheit but when I swapped in a Metric (Canadian cluster) the temperature display switched to Celsius, then when I reinstalled the US cluster, it went back to Farenheit.

There is a connection to the ECU and the Body Integrated Unit with pins B1, B6 and B11 but I'm not sure what signal they send.

Can anyone chime in?

[zcarmob]

I took a closer look at the connector cn402 and that appears to be the connection for the controls on the steering wheel. The SAT Sw label is deceiving.

[RyanE]

lazy subscribe - Andyjo and I have been poking at the service manual to find a better way to do the AuxIn than cutting the FM traces, so I'm curious as to what other people find.

-Ryan

[mcwiggin]

I emailed regarding the manual both would be helpful. I am an EE as well and with something like this it should be much easier to figure out what is going on. I also have a webserver and would be willing to host the manual for download. Also does anyone know what plugs into the CN601 connector near the front of the board?

[mcwiggin]

Jason said he will update the top post to show these links.. but until then you can get at the files here

Manual 1 can be downloaded here (0505cqef1561l.pdf)
www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1561l.pdf


Manual 2 can be downloaded here (0505cqef1560l.pdf)
www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1560l.pdf

[mcwiggin]

After a quick glance I think the best way to get audio in would be through the navigation option. This audio should cut out any AM/FM source and play through. I am unsure if there is volume control but there should be. The main issue is trying to understand how to tell the unit it has audio comming from a navigation system and it needs to switch to that feed. It could be as simple as bringing a single pin to 5v volts or a complicated exchange of serial data. I am not sure yet. I will post I think I see a better solution.

Scratch that it appears as though there is no tone control on navigation audio

http://www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/BestRoute.png

[mcwiggin]

I THINK I HAVE A SOLUTION!

Ok I think this is going to pretty easy actually! I looks like we can do this without and board mods at all! If we bring pin 2 on CN402 to 5.2 volts that should enable satellite signal according to the main CPU. Audio comes down pins 4 and 8 and I am not sure yet how the left and right channels are deciphered. From there I think the satellite selector button should probably work to select satellite as a source. The button does exist (its that blank spot on the input selector switch that goes 4 ways.) You can make it work by opening the stereo and removing the piece of plastic that prevents you from pushing the button. I haven't tested this yet.. but it should work!

I will post results as soon as I test it!


If someone gets a chance let me know what they think is going on with the left and right audio signals signals (C402 - C405 are 1uf caps)

http://www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/SatInput.png


Block Diagram showing the connections to CN402... As you can see there is more here than just the steering wheel controls.

http://www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/Block.png

[zcarmob]

McWiggin,

What if you jump pin 2 and 6 on CN402? I wonder if that would let the SAT light turn on when the SAT button is pressed.

I also noticed that it looks like pin 4 and 8 are either audio that would be mono or that connection could be from the satellite controls on the steering wheel.

[mcwiggin]

Pin 2 and 6 may just need to be jumped. That may cause the light to come on. The audio is definitely stereo and there are board traces that run back to the audio pre amp in full stereo. I think that pin 6 may also serve as a common ground with 4 and 8 representing L + R audio. you can see the L + R division downstream from pins 4 and 8.


If anyone has a manual that shows the connections of the full Subaru wiring harness that would be really helpful. Because I think these pins are attached in the plug that goes into the back of the stereo and pins 4 and 8 are connected to red and white wires respectively that are braided together... which makes me think audio. I would love to know where these wires go.

[drcaveman]

Pin 2 and 6 may just need to be jumped. That may cause the light to come on. The audio is definitely stereo and there are board traces that run back to the audio pre amp in full stereo. I think that pin 6 may also serve as a common ground with 4 and 8 representing L + R audio. you can see the L + R division downstream from pins 4 and 8.


If anyone has a manual that shows the connections of the full Subaru wiring harness that would be really helpful. Because I think these pins are attached in the plug that goes into the back of the stereo and pins 4 and 8 are connected to red and white wires respectively that are braided together... which makes me think audio. I would love to know where these wires go.

I will check and see if I downloaded the audio wiring section from the Subaru Technical Site, I think I did I will look when I go home and post the pics if I did.

[Jon [in CT]]

Attached is the Audio wiring diagram for the 2005 Legacy. In that diagram, connector i85 corresponds to CN402, but the pins are numbered backwards. So,
i85 #1 = CN402 #4 (SIGNAL +)
i85 #2 = CN402 #3 (TEL ON)
i85 #3 = CN402 #2 (SATEL SW +)
i85 #4 = CN402 #1 (WOOFER +)
i85 #5 = CN402 #8 (SIGNAL -)
i85 #6 = CN402 #7 (WOOFER -)
i85 #7 = CN402 #6 (SATEL SW -)
i85 #8 = CN402 #5 (N.C)

The two SATEL SW pins connect to the remote (i.e. "satellite") audio controls on the steering wheel. The two WOOFER pins connect to the "Super Woofer" in the station wagon cargo area. And the N.C pin is connected for some reason to the Body Integrated Unit.

I suspect the remaining three unused pins (TEL ON, SIGNAL +, SIGNAL -) were designed to support a handsfree phone kit or ONSTAR. I suspect that applying a voltage or ground to the TEL ON pin would cause the headunit mute whatever it was playing and put the audio from SIGNAL +/- on the speakers. If you're content with mono sound, that'll get you AUX IN.

[Jon [in CT]]

BTW, the headunit is looking at resistance between the SATEL SW + and - pins in order to determine which steering wheel audio button is being pressed. The resistances and their meanings are described in this post:22R = MUTE
90R = Vol up
200R = Vol down
360R = Mode
690R = Seek up
1500R = Seek down
4700R = (all buttons up.)

If there was one more command, I'd expect it to be 3000R.It would be interesting to connect a 3K ohm resistor between CN402 pin #2 (SATEL SW +) and pin #6 (SATEL SW -) and see what, if anything, happens.

[mvigneau]

Where was this when I was doing my aux-in!! :(

[drcaveman]

Where was this when I was doing my aux-in!! :(

sorry this was very hard to find, I think they should offer it on the technical website form Subaru.

[zcarmob]

Drcaveman,

I just noticed that the front of my radio has P-201UH because it is a 2.5i limited and I got it back in July 2004. That should be the same as the P-203UH or is there a different manual for that one.

[drcaveman]

Drcaveman,

I just noticed that the front of my radio has P-201UH because it is a 2.5i limited and I got it back in July 2004. That should be the same as the P-203UH or is there a different manual for that one.

You will have to open it up and look at the model number and manufacturer that is on the label, does yours have auto climate control.

DrC

[zcarmob]

yea mine has auto climate.

[coredump4]

I have the full service manual for the 2005 2006 legacy GT models CQ-EF1560L

Thank you to mcwiggin (http://legacygt.com/forums/member.php?u=17433) for hosting these files.

The Links are:

www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1561l.pdf (http://www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1561l.pdf)

www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1560l.pdf (http://www.mcwiggin.com/subaru/0505cqef1560l.pdf)


Thanks for making these available! I've been needing this. Very interesting stuff.
It is looking like the only externally-accessible inputs to the 1560 are the Navigation and Onstar inputs, which are mono. :( Maybe a Jazzy board is the only way to go.

[NutBucket]

Trust me, I tried this (its documented in another thread). The onstar input can be modded to stereo, however there is no tone control when in onstar "mode".

[Montana]

We have the 201 in the '05 and the 203 in the '06 and the difference seems only to be the CD-changer functions, both are hooked into climate control units but neither is mp3-capable. Sure would love an easy hack for an aux-in. When you folks figure this out, please post in general English. I'm pretty DIY and somewhat tech-versant, but not an EE. Thanks.

[sebberry]

Hmm.. I think the temperature control knobs on mine are attached as a single board and not a cable connecting the two boards.