Beer Snob Thread

[Brady]

It's finally here! We've been saying we need one of these for a while, so I present you the Official LegacyGT.com Thread of Beer Snobbery: 2007 Edition (Like our drinking, we're getting an early start!)

Rule 1: Macro-brews are crap
- Article B: Any "beer" with the word "lite" or "light" is not beer. No exceptions (Credit to johnAWD for the clarification)
- Article C: If the "beer" is advertised with the words "Ice" or "Ice Cold", it's not beer
Rule 2: "Because it's local" (or regional) doesn't make it good
Rule 3: Hops Rule!
Rule 4: If when out with friends, you typically order a Budweiser, you belong in a different thread
Rule 5: "Because it's imported" doesn't make it good
Rule 6: The right beer will go with any meal
Rule 7: Respect thy brother in beer-snobbery. You may disagree, but you may not disrespect.
Rule 8: No trolling ;)

Now ... Discuss!

[Brady]

To start:

I :wub: Kalamazoo Brewing Company (Bell's)

I :wub: Breckenridge Brewing Company too

Ok, now I need to get back to work :(

[rc0032]

I like Bell's but im pissed they stop selling in Chicago due to political reasons. Therefor I dont drink that sweet sweet Oberon anymore :(

[PhilT]

American beer snobs, now there's an oxymoron if ever I heard one :lol:

[rc0032]

This coming from the guy that like warm ale? :throwup:

[johnAWD]

Any "beer" with the word "lite" or "light" is not really beer. It's water with some coloring added in.

I'm a fan of Sam Adams lager from time to time. Been a fan of Fat Tire, but after spending a bunch of time in the UK, I just can't drink much of our domestic beer anymore. Even the "imports" are passe....

[pwdrdayz]

http://www.bleacherspub.com/images/beer_logos/mac_jack_amber.jpgFTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JessterCPA]

www.crickethillbrewery.com

Thsi place is literally right around the corner from me, and I love his beer. Rick the brewer is a fanatic of quality beer.

Best Thread ever!!

Jesse

[Underdog]

Long Trail out of Burlington, VT, favorite beer -> "Hit the Trail" or "Doublebag"

Shed Brewery out of Stowe, VT, favorite beerk -> "Shed Mountain Ale"

I enjoy most Sam Adams beers and although they aren't really a micro-brew any more I think they are deserving of a spot on this thread. I keep a loaded quarter-barrel of whatever seasonal is available in my Kegerator at all times!

[coxx]

bah! it's all crap :lol:

Bud, coors, miller, etc do the trick for me. I do like a harps, black & tan, or chimay from time to time but to me as long as it aint schlitz or natty light & gets me buzzed I'm happy

[rc0032]

I dont see the attraction to Mac & Jacks the locals have. I cant drink one but I have to choke the second one down every time.


Im a stout guy and I had one of these the other day really good-> Saint Petersburg (Imperial Russian Stout 7.7% abv)

http://www.thornbridgebrewery.co.uk/

[Scotty]

Red Tail Ale from Mendocino is good.

The local brewery Sudwerk is pretty good from the tap. Bottled stuff sucks big time. It's about $5 for a litre. Plus in the winter, most people will smuggle the litre glass home.

I knew a Brewmaster for Budweiser. He said the American Pilsner is one of the hardest beers to brew since they have to be so consistant from brewery to brewery. IMO, it's still piss water.

[PhilT]

This coming from the guy that like warm ale? :throwup:

Exactly, like it is supposed to be, and as it has been for the last 500 years :icon_wink

You want real beer, try some of this:

http://www.theakstons.co.uk/uploaded/old-peculier-clip.gif

http://www.theakstons.co.uk/ales/view_detail.php?id=9

[rc0032]

Phil - Belgum has you beat on longevity of making beer and they dont serve it warm :iam:

[MDork]

I belong in this thread. California has some amazing IPA's (see rule #3).

1) Russian River BC Pliny (Younger or Elder)
2) Bear Republic Racer 5 (one of my all time favs)
3) Green Flash West Coast IPA

Of course theres all the Stone brews as well. Ruination is awesome. Ive toned it down on the super hoppy stuff lately and have been addicted to Hoegaarden.

[PhilT]

Phil - Belgum has you beat on longevity of making beer and they dont serve it warm :iam:

Debateable about the history, but I'll let that slide :icon_wink

As for taste, if you chill any beer cold enough it's palatable, it freezes the taste buds, only great tasting beer can be drunk at room temperature (not warm).


I'm getting thirsty :icon_mrgr

[rc0032]

Link for you -> http://www.alabev.com/history.htm

There is a fine line on beer temperature but room temp is way too high :( I agree that most places serve beer too cold and while the frozen glass is a nice touch um...no.

Another "big" name beer thats making waves Fat Tire. - Good on draft not so much in the bottle.


Phil - Thanks for not brining up the Jack girls :lol:

[Abandonhope16]

Miller Lite

[PhilT]

Link for you -> http://www.alabev.com/history.htm

There is a fine line on beer temperature but room temp is way too high :( I agree that most places serve beer too cold and while the frozen glass is a nice touch um...no.

Another "big" name beer thats making waves Fat Tire. - Good on draft not so much in the bottle.


Phil - Thanks for not brining up the Jack girls :lol:

Birmingham, Alabama, now there's a place with beer in it's history :lol:


Serving temperature

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The [U]temperature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Manet%2C_Edouard_-_La_Serveuse_de_Bocks_%28The_Waitress%29%2C_1879.j pg) of a beer has an influence on a drinker's experience. Colder temperatures allow fully attenuated beers such as pale lagers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_lagers) to be enjoyed for their crispness; while warmer temperatures allow the more rounded flavours of an ale or a stout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stout) to be perceived. Beer writer Michael Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson_%28beer_expert%29) proposes a five-level scale for serving temperatures: well chilled (7 °C/45 °F) for "light" beers (American and Australian lagers), chilled (8 °C/47 °F) for Berliner Weisse, lightly chilled (9 °C/48 °F) for European lagers, all dark lagers, altbier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altbier) and German wheat beers, cellar temperature (13 °C/55 °F) for regular British ale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ale), stout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stout) and most Belgian specialities and room temperature (15.5 °C/60 °F) for strong dark ales (especially trappist beer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trappist_beer)) and barley wine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barley_wine).

[speeddr7]

Brilliant!!!!

[speeddr7]

Brilliant!!!!!!

[BoxerGT2.5]

I don't give a shit, whatever gets me hammered. Ever been to a frat party with 3 kegs of Ice House. :lol:

[isuace]

I just make my own.

[MDork]

Debateable about the history, but I'll let that slide :icon_wink

As for taste, if you chill any beer cold enough it's palatable, it freezes the taste buds, only great tasting beer can be drunk at room temperature (not warm).


I'm getting thirsty :icon_mrgr

So why does Newcastle tell you to serve the beer cold? And why was Guinness installing extra cold taps all over England a few years ago?

[MDork]

Link for you -> http://www.alabev.com/history.htm

There is a fine line on beer temperature but room temp is way too high :( I agree that most places serve beer too cold and while the frozen glass is a nice touch um...no.

Another "big" name beer thats making waves Fat Tire. - Good on draft not so much in the bottle.


Phil - Thanks for not brining up the Jack girls :lol:

Fat Tire is big with the Forester crowd...if you know what i mean :lol:

Can't say Im a fan. I like the 1554 though.

[LegGTLT]

Someone say Hoegaarden? :D Or Tripel Karmeliet? :p Or Blue Moon even though it's now carried by Coors.

And Rich, you want a good local beer to top Mac's? Try this when you come out:

Boundary Bay Scotch (http://bbaybrewery.com/beer.php)located in Bellingham, WA and sold in lots of places around here.

[rc0032]

And Rich, you want a good local beer to top Mac's? Try this when you come out:

Boundary Bay Scotch (http://bbaybrewery.com/beer.php)located in Bellingham, WA and sold in lots of places around here.

Hoegaarden is great!

We did try that and its good :icon_cool I just cant get into the Mac :(

[mattg]

I'm from Oregon, birthplace of micro brews. 'nuff said. ;)

[Brady]

My thoughts on Fat Tire:

A good beer, but is not all it's hyped up to be. I'll drink it when I'm out visiting my sister in the Denver area, but with so many damn good beers in Colorado to choose from, it's a crime to pass on all the other beers available to drink Fat Tire exclusively. It's a solid and safe staple. A go-to when you don't recognize anything else available, but not an end-all be-all of beer.

There. I said it. That's my opinion and I'll stand by it. :)

[rc0032]

^ Oh I agree and its sister beer "Naked something?" is the WORST!!!1

[!S4]

I like Bell's but im pissed they stop selling in Chicago due to political reasons. Therefor I dont drink that sweet sweet Oberon anymore :(
What? When did this happen? I just had some Oberon downtown this summer.... :(

[BigJack]

Leave for the mountains on Friday. My first stop will be for two cases of Natural Ice. $10 a case does the job. lol Otherwise i get Yuengling or Bud

[c-lo]

Always liked Magic Hat beer out of Burlington VT. and I also started drinking this:

http://www.rogue.com/images/UpdatedLabels/Dead_Guy_Ale.gif

[!S4]

bah! it's all crap :lol:

Bud, coors, miller, etc do the trick for me. I do like a harps, black & tan, or chimay from time to time but to me as long as it aint schlitz or natty light & gets me buzzed I'm happy

Ah, Chimay....I think it's the perfect "I'm just going to have one glass of beer" beer.

[bosco]

I don't give a shit, whatever gets me hammered. Ever been to a frat party with 3 kegs of Ice House. :lol:

+1. the only reason to drink is to escape reality so with that in mind.....bosco

[rc0032]

What? When did this happen? I just had some Oberon downtown this summer.... :(
Link to BS
http://www.chicagoist.com/archives/2006/10/16/the_bells_in_the_distance.php

[gfxdave99]

What about the type of beer snobs that dont like beer?

[pacbreak gt]

+1 on the Dead Guy (tried it after reading about it on the "...what are you drinking?" thread). Our house beer is Sierra Nevada Pale Ale - thank you Chico State!

[mattg]

Always liked Magic Hat beer out of Burlington VT. and I also started drinking this:

http://www.rogue.com/images/UpdatedLabels/Dead_Guy_Ale.gif

one of Oregon's finest. I would drink more of it but it's so damn expensive in stores. There's too many other great ones that I can get for less.

I've been drinking alot of Deshutes Brewery Jubel ale lately. It's so damn good. Sierra Nevada celebration is awesome too. Has anyone tried the Sierra Nevada Bigfoot ale? That shit is awesome @ 9.6% or so. 3 of those gets you pretty looped.

I <3 IPA's, barley wines & winter ales. :wub:

[PhilT]

So why does Newcastle tell you to serve the beer cold? And why was Guinness installing extra cold taps all over England a few years ago?

For the American tourists :lol:

[qp_20]

Man, my first post and it is in a beer thread. Seems fitting!
Colorado has so many good micro breweries. Cali has some good stuff too...Stone=good!
My personal favorites:
1) Sunshine Wheat
2) Easy Street Wheat
3) Moose Drool

And for the holiday brews:
1) O'Fallons Pumpkin Ale
2) Avery's Jubilation
3) Blue Moon Winter Ale

[Gire]

Drinking Sam Adams right now... Its a good sipping beer with flavor.

I normally stick to lagers or pale ales like Moosehead or Alex Keiths India Pale.


But you really can't beat Canadian or Blue for getting lit up quick.

[MDork]

For the American tourists :lol:

Ha! No way dude. Went to Newcastle and they even serve it cold there!

If you wanna be a traditionalist about it you should demand the beer be made with bacteria filled swamp water too!

[PhilT]

Ha! No way dude. Went to Newcastle and they even serve it cold there!

If you wanna be a traditionalist about it you should demand the beer be made with bacteria filled swamp water too!

Born and raised in the North of England :icon_wink

We think of American beer, the same way the French think of American wine :lol:

[red beast]

i must admit i'm not much of a drinker but, when in Annapolis, MD. i stopped in at the ram's head tavern (micro brewery and restaurant) for some crab cakes.

i don't like beers that "bite you" as it goes down your throat so with the suggestion from the waitress i tried a "helles" or munich beer. it is made with less hops and more yeast for very little bitter taste.


it was sweet, smooth, and was the perfect match for my palate.

http://www.ramsheadtavern.com/annapolis/index.html

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/423426/ramsheadweb.jpg

[ZinFreak]

I belong in this thread. California has some amazing IPA's (see rule #3).

1) Russian River BC Pliny (Younger or Elder)
2) Bear Republic Racer 5 (one of my all time favs)
3) Green Flash West Coast IPA

Of course theres all the Stone brews as well. Ruination is awesome. Ive toned it down on the super hoppy stuff lately and have been addicted to Hoegaarden.

Damn, I want to PARTY with you.

Russian River Brewing company makes some awesome Belgian style ales. Anything at this brew pub is worthy imbibing.

Bear Republic -- Racer 5 and Black Bear Stout. This is my favorite hangout on Friday nights. Plus the owner is into racing.

Anderson Valley Brewing Company -- Boont Amber Ale

Stone Brewing Company -- Arrogant Bastard Ale -- YOU ARE NOT WORTHY of this beer.

I know rclark thinks nothing good comes from California, but this state has some of the best microbrews on Earth (amongst other things).

Drink up!

[MDork]

Born and raised in the North of England :icon_wink

We think of American beer, the same way the French think of American wine :lol:

I like you better now :)

I spent a summer in Durham...good times...

[MDork]

Did you try any of the Stone 10th? I have 3 bottles left. Insanely hoppy!

[ZinFreak]

Did you try any of the Stone 10th? I have 3 bottles left. Insanely hoppy!

No! I've got to run down to Bottle Barn in Santa Rosa on Friday, I'll check it out! Their anniversary IPA's are insane over the top hops.

[underpowerd]

ever get to manhattan, look up peculiar pub in the west village, beer list like a phone book, lol.
my old fave:

Mackeson Milk Stout - England

[MDork]

No! I've got to run down to Bottle Barn in Santa Rosa on Friday, I'll check it out! Their anniversary IPA's are insane over the top hops.

All the stores around here sold out of them in the first week! You'll be lucky to find any!

[Spoonwacker]

http://www.bleacherspub.com/images/beer_logos/mac_jack_amber.jpgFTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:whore: x a billion!!!!

And Pike Kilt Lifter, not just because it's local, but because it tastes good, it's strong, and it has a kickass name!

[Beanboy]

Bah! Screw buying beer! Make it yourself at home or at a brew house... Hmm, almost time to brew up another batch of:

http://www.stinkyteapot.com/beer.jpg

Ah, the joys of a clean-tasting 8% beer! And it is fun tossing in a dehydrated chunk of Irish moss into the boil, hehe.

[springnr]

Black Butte Porter
Obsidian Stout on nitro
Homebrew

[c-lo]

one of Oregon's finest. I would drink more of it but it's so damn expensive in stores. There's too many other great ones that I can get for less.

I've been drinking alot of Deshutes Brewery Jubel ale lately. It's so damn good. Sierra Nevada celebration is awesome too. Has anyone tried the Sierra Nevada Bigfoot ale? That shit is awesome @ 9.6% or so. 3 of those gets you pretty looped.

I <3 IPA's, barley wines & winter ales. :wub:

how much? it's about $8 or $9 a 6 pack at the local liquor store

[JessterCPA]

http://www.rogue.com/images/UpdatedLabels/Dead_Guy_Ale.gif

Love the Dead Guy. I have one of the original glow in the dark bottles of this stuff. What a flavor. Had it on Tap at the Ginger Man in NYC, and fell in love all over again. Great beer.

Jesse

[c-lo]

^^ korean guy checking me out at the counter didn't believe me when I told him it was good beer. Funny getting a "your crazy" look from an old korean guy

[bdisco]

Summer, just got done mowwing the lawn beer, MGD nice and cold, not too heavy, goes down easy, like a girl I knew in school.

Keep going back to Sam Adams Boston Ale, Sam Lager on tap is always great, never a disappointment.

Honorable mention Michelob Honey Lager , smooth.

Cans should be avoided at all cost, Coors has taken steps in the right direction but still needs work. Man Law?

Anyone else keep their's in the crisper, if packed right it will hold a whole case.

http://www.shinyhappyhead.com/Graphics/SmileyBeer_dick.jpg

[heightsgtltd]

http://www.duvelusa.com/images/img_splash_beer.jpg

[iceman]

Flying Dog Brewery "Doggy Style" IPA...good drinking IPA

Dogfishhead "60 Minute IPA"...insanely hoppy, great flavor.

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale...excellent everyday beer.

Also, a great article from a couple months ago in Mens Journal on the 25 Best Beers in America

http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/0610/bestbeer.html

[joeb-z]

www.crickethillbrewery.com (http://www.crickethillbrewery.com)

Thsi place is literally right around the corner from me, and I love his beer. Rick the brewer is a fanatic of quality beer.

Best Thread ever!!

Jesse

Cricket Hill is in Fairfield, NJ. Every Friday from 5-7 Rick has a "tour". This means he opens up the taps and give a good beer rant (which is quite entertaining) at 6:30. I am often there for a while, more likely in a blue w/ white stripes NA Miata than my LGT. Rick's beer is great. I have it on tap at home (that is dedication to good beer folks).

Joe

[JessterCPA]

Cricket Hill is in Fairfield, NJ. Every Friday from 5-7 Rick has a "tour". This means he opens up the taps and give a good beer rant (which is quite entertaining) at 6:30. I am often there for a while, more likely in a blue w/ white stripes NA Miata than my LGT. Rick's beer is great. I have it on tap at home (that is dedication to good beer folks).

Joe

I also have it on tap at home, in fact, I am stopping by there today to get another 1/6 of Lager. The Friday Happy Hours are the best. Now with the demise of Heavyweight Brewing, I would say The Crick is the best in NJ. You try the Colonel Blide yet?? AWESOME!!!

Jesse

[rc0032]

Might not be the best but the one thing I miss about the east cost is yuengling


and WaWa
and Herr's

[JessterCPA]

Might not be the best but the one thing I miss about the east cost is yuengling

It's astounding the "new-found" popularity of Yueng's. I know it's old, and PA people have loved it forever, but there is a surge of pro-Yueng love out there I never saw coming.

I love the stuff, and for the price you cannot beat it. You just see it everywhere in NJ now.

Jesse

[rc0032]

Yup I gerw up in PA (hence the hate for NJ) it was all over and cheap, have to love that. I also like thier Porter and Black/Tan.

I also like Rolling Rock :hide:

[MDork]

ROLLING ROCK!?!? there goes your credibility!!

for the black and tan fans...next time get 1/2 newc and 1/2 guinness. yum.

[rc0032]

ROLLING ROCK!?!? there goes your credibility!!

I went to school 20 miles outside of Latrobe PA, one of my regular bars was the first bar that RR was served in (the Sckeller) and a pither was $2.50 how can you not drink it?


Your going to call me out then talk about newc and guinness :lol: I havent been able to drink guinness in the states since my trip to Ireland 3 years ago :(

[wheatleya]

Three Floyds Brewery, best in the U.S.

[BigJack]

Yuenling is starting to fade around here. Used to be shortages. LOL I hear its huge down in NC. I know the guy that makes their stuff for bars. I have a killer bar sign that they only made 1000 of. I can't imagine moving out of the area. I might die without cheesesteaks....Look at my pics in the legacy photos section under 07 newport blue. I have the amoroso trucks in the background. lOL

[rc0032]

Oh amoroso....:rolleyes:

[BoxerGT2.5]

You guys really care too much about this shit. I usually just figure out how quickly I wanna get shit faced and plan accordingly.

4hrs=Beer
2hrs=Rum and Coke
1hr=light shots
30min=Jager bombs :icon_twis

[BigJack]

I will be loaded on friday. By 3 at the latest.....1 case of Natty Ice, 1 Bottle Wild turkey, 1 giant bag of peanuts, Im set for my weekend in the poconos. (Well maybe Friday anyway)

[psucaptainkickass]

Ahh...let's see here, some of my favs:
Young's Double Chocolate Stout
Fuller's London Porter (love this stuff!)
Fuller's London Pride (I hate pale ales, but love this one!)
Sam Adam's Black Lager
Fat Tire
Blue Moon
Dogfish Head World Wide Stout (18-21%, WOW!)
Dogfish Head Raison D'etra
Strongbow (best cider ever)

[mattg]

how much? it's about $8 or $9 a 6 pack at the local liquor store
yeah, about the same here in the grocery stores. I can always find something good for 6.99 a six pack or 13.99 per half case, FTW!

[Earthworm]

Keep it local! Goose Island Honkers and Pale Ale are good and supports the local economy.

Other than that:
- Bell's is some of the best around. Most brewers use Bell's Amber Ale as the yardstick to measure quality against. I was actually sitting at Bell's the day they announced the distribution change - my only consolation: 15% off their beer if you show your IL driver's license (not much comfort, let me assure you).
- Three Floyds: Alpha King is a good Pale Ale, but Dreadnaught is the BEST!
- Pizza Port (Solona Beach Brewing Company) out by San Diego (Carlsbad and Solona Beach) - great stuff! Large variety... If only I remember my last visit there - I woke up at 3:30 AM on the ground of a parking lot of some apartment building, with no idea how I got there... tsk tsk.
- Sam Adams - very consistent quality (wish they sold Ole Fezziweg standalone like they used to)
- Stone
- Blue Moon and Hoegarden (and Celis, once they start making it again!) are all good white ales
- Most belgiums: Duval, Orval, Chimay, DT, etc. :wub:

Now I'm all thirsty! :lol:

[bgsntth]

You fellows know your brew..I'm impressed.

I tend to favor Amber, Pale, and Lager's:
-Longboard Lager by Kona Brewing Co. (The best Lager I have ever had)
-Winter and Summer Solstices by Anderson Valley (Every beer they make is phenomenol)
Samuel Smith's Winter Ale (Fabulous)
Fat Tire and Skinny Dip by New Belgium (Their 2degree is good also)
Mirror Pond Pale Ale by Deutsh (Consistency is not always there)
Boddington's (the only beer I'll drink from a can)
Kilt Lifter Scotch Ale by Mt. Tam Brewing company (Drink with respect).

[JessterCPA]

Celis, once they start making it again

OMG!!! Celis White was my fav of all time. :wub: What's the latest on this???

I actually have 2 bottles (one empty, one full) of Celis Reserve commissioned especially for the opening of the Paris Las Vegas hotel. It was tucked in the back of the hotel fridge. Major score.

Jesse

[Earthworm]

OMG!!! Celis White was my fav of all time. :wub: What's the latest on this???

I actually have 2 bottles (one empty, one full) of Celis Reserve commissioned especially for the opening of the Paris Las Vegas hotel. It was tucked in the back of the hotel fridge. Major score.

Jesse

Michigan Brewing Co. bought the rights from Miller. i think they're brewing it now, but I don't think it's distributed very much (at least not to the Chicagoland area) You can get it at their brewpub:

http://www.michiganbrewing.com/celis.htm

[LegGTLT]

I've been drinking alot of Deshutes Brewery Jubel ale lately. It's so damn good. Sierra Nevada celebration is awesome too. Has anyone tried the Sierra Nevada Bigfoot ale? That shit is awesome @ 9.6% or so. 3 of those gets you pretty looped.

I <3 IPA's, barley wines & winter ales. :wub:
:wub: THOSE two! Just bought a 6-pack of Celebration last night. Not too bad at $6.99 at Albertson's. I think someone else in Oregon mentioned this also, but the Sunshine Wheat is AWESOME! :D I get it on tap whenever I'm at Old Chicago down there. :p

For those that like the Belgiums, I've seen alot of Chimay and others listed. As I mentioned previously one of my favorites of all time is the Tripel Karmeleit. Anyone else tried this? It's about $7-$8 for a 22oz or 24oz bottle. :( Spendy but worth it at times!!!!!! :D

[Dsfa]

Dogfish Chickory Stout.

[ZinFreak]

You fellows know your brew..I'm impressed.

I tend to favor Amber, Pale, and Lager's:

-<snippage>

Kilt Lifter Scotch Ale by Mt. Tam Brewing company (Drink with respect).



Kilt Lifter Rocks! It is from Moylan's Brewery with a view of Mt. Tamalpais (the birthplace of mountain biking) in Marin County (US-101 and Rowland Blvd). My favorite stop on the way back home from the Oakland airport.

Their Double IPA is also delicioso.

http://www.moylans.com/site/pages/home/index.php

Hawt waitresses (waitri?) too.

[underpowerd]

Dogfish Chickory Stout.

yum.

[Brady]

I'm back! Glad to see this thread blossomed. I was home sick with the flu yesterday and this morning. I thought I'd make a point to show up for the afternoon at work so no one thought I was taking time off for an extended weekend! :lol:

I'll be sampling the Breckenridge Brewing Christmas Ale this afternoon at work (co-worker brought in a Breck Sampler :) )

Anyone else in the Twin Cities tried any of the Surly Brews yet?

I was lucky enough to tour their brewery back in May. Kind of a fun deal since they're just getting on their feet. I still only find it at some places, but I'm a big fan of Furious, enjoy Bender, and though I don't usually get into the Belgian style, I like Cynic as well.

www.surlybrewing.com

[sutter2k]

My base rules are no "Nascar beer".
and no Molson.

After that, I'll at least give it a try.

[F1inspiredLGT]

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28691&d=1165532258

Sorry I couldn't resist. Had to take a second look.:icon_mrgr

[F1inspiredLGT]

http://i20.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/7a/f1/9ceb_1.JPG

As the british would say, this is fight'n beer. Drink a few of these and off you go.

[pwdrdayz]

http://i20.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/7a/f1/9ceb_1.JPG

As the british would say, this is fight'n beer. Drink a few of these and off you go.


AKA... wifebeater

[bgsntth]

ZinFreak,

Keeping me honest! Embarrassed to say I could not remember Moylan's name. Which is really embarrassing when you consider that our kids are in the same school, and he blesses every school function with the best of whatever he is brewing.

As far as the waitresses go, my wife barred me from unaccompanied patronization of Moylan's or the Brew Co when the wedding vows were still fresh. I'll be sure to ask Mr. Moylan about his "recruiting" requirements.

[ZinFreak]

ZinFreak,

As far as the waitresses go, my wife barred me from unaccompanied patronization of Moylan's or the Brew Co when the wedding vows were still fresh. I'll be sure to ask Mr. Moylan about his "recruiting" requirements.


I think the requirement is -- Must look good in the baby-doll t-shirt. Got the wife one and damn she looks good in it too. They seem to accentuate parts of the female anatomy. Those shirts have a certain, um, je ne sais quoi.

[LegGTLT]

My base rules are no "Nascar beer".
and no Molson.

After that, I'll at least give it a try.
:eek::eek::eek:
But the sayings are great drunken fun! :D Are you saying you don't like FUN?!?!?! :iam: ;) :lol:

[qp_20]

It is cool to see that the local brews make it all over the country. I have not been able to drink the Flying Dog stuff since I had it at their brewery...the bottled stuff bust does not compare.

This weekend I had some beer from Cali, can't remember the brewery, it was called Brown Shugga. That was some good stuff! They also have something called Kronic, but I have not tried it yet. I also recently tried the Blue Moon Winter Ale, and it was great!

[ZinFreak]

This weekend I had some beer from Cali, can't remember the brewery, it was called Brown Shugga. That was some good stuff! They also have something called Kronic, but I have not tried it yet. I also recently tried the Blue Moon Winter Ale, and it was great!

You can always tell if someone is NOT from California, because the refer to it as Cali. Same with 'frisco... No one calls it 'frisco that lives within 150 miles of it.

Brown Shugga' be from Lagunitas Brewing Co about 20 miles south of me in Petaluma California. They make a great IPA and Imperial Stout.

[psucaptainkickass]

How long do you have to be in Cali to stop calling it Cali?
:)

[Spoonwacker]

You can always tell if someone is NOT from California, because the refer to it as Cali. Same with 'frisco... No one calls it 'frisco that lives within 150 miles of it.

By the same token, you can tell that somebody is from Southern California when they start talking about "the 5," or "the 405." My girlfriend never noticed she did this until I pointed it out to her...especially funny is that she doesn't do it when she talks about freeways in Austin, where she lived for a few years. Silly lass.

Back in on-topic land, I had a Pyramid Snowcap yesterday, and it was tasty. I'm also thinking I'll have to try the Blue Moon Winter Ale, because Blue Moon is good stuff. I'm not a big fan of wheat beers, but Blue Moon never disappoints. Mmmmmm. Beeeeeeeer....

~Zach

[qp_20]

You can always tell if someone is NOT from California, because the refer to it as Cali. Same with 'frisco... No one calls it 'frisco that lives within 150 miles of it.

Brown Shugga' be from Lagunitas Brewing Co about 20 miles south of me in Petaluma California. They make a great IPA and Imperial Stout.

That is the name of the Brewery. I don't actually refer to it as Cali, but I am lazy and don't want to type it out. I usually type Co instead of Colorado when I am talking about it. Funny you should mention the Frisco thing though...every time someone says that I think that they are talking about the mountain town here, LOL.

Reading this thread makes me really want to try Oberon, I wish there was a store around here that sold it. Maybe I will just have to find someone who ships it!

[Brady]

Oberon .... sweet sweet nectar of the gods.

Ok, here's a wild thought ... Beer Snob 6-pack exchange? Pick up a 6-pack for a fellow snob of something not locally available to your exchange partner and ship it in exchange for something not locally available to you?

My fridge is currently stocked with Oberon! :D

Usually I have a 6 pack of Oberon, a 6 pack of Two Hearted Ale or Third Coast Beer (both Bell's brews), a 6 pack of Avalanche Ale, and a 6 pack of something else or assorted beers. Eventually I will need a separate beer fridge, because all that takes up a LOT of space! :lol:

[BDII]

1.Budweiser.

My dad has worked there since 1977. I get 3 free 30 packs a month!!

2. Sea dog

mix it with guiness to make a black and blue

3. Sam Adams White Ale

Only available in the Spring

[LIZARD]

:lol: :lol: :lol: To this "beer-snob" thread. Beer and Snob= 2 words that definitely don't go together. Maybe over at the Hyundai forum they'll have the "Hyundai-Snob" thread too.:lol: :lol: But anyway, I'll take a Blue Moon as well and count me in for Harpoon Winter Warmer.:p

[ZinFreak]

3. Sam Adams White Ale

Only available in the Spring

F'ing Sam Adams White Ale... Got to spend a night in the emergency room because of this beer. It turns out this beer is flavored with all kinds of sh*t like anise, hibiscus flowers, rose hips, and other pansy candy-a$$ stuff.

http://www.samueladams.com/world_of_beer.aspx

My wife bought it and she forced me to take one sip. Ewww! An hour later it feels like Darth Vader is crushing my throat.

Well, the ZinFreak is highly allergic to rose hips. My throat was swollen to the point of being like a f'ing soda straw. Bunch of hits of epi, predisone, benadryl, and ratatidine and 6 hours later I can finally swallow again.

I'm now really leery of drinking these beers that have been flavored up for women.

Hops, barley, yeast, and water. Don't eff-up my beer with flowers and sh*t eh? :spin:

[Brady]

:lol: :lol: :lol: To this "beer-snob" thread. Beer and Snob= 2 words that definitely don't go together.

You think that because you think Blue Moon is good beer! :p ;)

What most people consider beer a beer snob doesn't even acknowledge as beer. I literally won't even drink what 90+% of Americans regularly choose as their favorite beers (Budweiser, Miller, Coors, Michelob, etc.)

[ADirtyLegacy]

wonder what took me so long to find this thread!!! i'm a fan of Harpoon, Sam Adams, Rogue Dead Guy Ale (even as expensive as it is, i dont care!!), Shiner Bock, New Castle, and the list goes on and on and on. ill definately be checking back as i love to try new beers.

Kenda:dm:

[LegGTLT]

WOW! Yer everywhere suddenly! :lol:

[psucaptainkickass]

:whore:



3. Sam Adams White Ale

Only available in the Spring

[JessterCPA]

Here is my home keg setup.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/jesstercpa/MIsc%20Pictures/2006-12-14-020.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/jesstercpa/MIsc%20Pictures/2006-12-14-021.jpg

Jesse

[BlueDevil]

I'm a Killians Irish Red fan myself. When you go out to eat, most places don't carry micro brewed stuff and IMHO, a lot of it is utter swill anyway.
Now beer in America and Beer in Europe are 2 very different things.........

[ZinFreak]

All the stores around here sold out of them in the first week! You'll be lucky to find any!

Stopped by my favorite beer/wine shop today (The Bottle Barn in Santa Rosa) and was able to find Stone Brewing Company's 10th Anniversay IPA. Six left on the shelf, I was nice and left 2 there!

MDork, thanks for the heads up!

Edit: OMG, this is a huge & awesome brew. At 10% alc/vol I can only drink one 22 oz bottle and still function. If you guys can find some Stone Brewing company ales, you've gotta give them a try. Had this with dinner tonight, low brow food, picked up some "Old Fashion Frankfurters" from my local butcher. Thursday night football, what else but beer and dogs? OK maybe Chili

[SubiGT]

Red Tail Ale from Mendocino is good.

If you like the Red Tail, try their Eye of the Hawk. 8% and smoother. Just put a 6pack in the fridge for this weekend and my 4x4 club Christmas party.

Sierra Nevada Celebration, the best 6.8% beer out there.

Local: Snowshoe Brewing Co. (Sonora and Arnold) has their Thompson Pale Ale and Snoweizen Wheat Ale. Hmmmm good.

[Legacy05GT]

Georgia Microbrewery - Sweetwater brewing co. Makes a "Festive Ale" which is brewed ONE DAY A YEAR so supplies are limited...


...ofcourse, i saw this as a perfect argument for stocking my fridge with 2 cases of it (48 beers).

[Brady]

^^^

I salute you for posting at 7:30 in the morning in a beer thread!!!

That's the quality drunk I like to see. ;)

Been a while since I've had Celebration ... may have to hit an Old Chicago where they usually have it.

Anyone here try any of the Harvest beers? I don't think I've ever tried any of those, and from what I've read about them, not sure if I'd like them. Wet hops just don't sound like my idea of a good beer, but ... :iam:

[JessterCPA]

Brooklyn Monster is a once a year beer I really love. I caught it last year on tap at Burp Castle. Great bar & great beer.

Jesse

[alcyone]

rockies brewing company hazed & infused dry-hopped ale.

http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/shelfy/40462.jpg

as for the belle's oberon, it's all we drank while we were in cadillac, mi for a wedding last summer. we even bought a small keg as a souvenir. had a few two-hearted ales as well.

[bakasama]

I've tried so many different brews I can no longer keep track of which one's I've had. In Denver, there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of different beers that can be had with less than half an hour's notice.

Ever since I started brewing my own beer, I've been more concerned about the type of the beer, over the Company that brewed it. (eg, there isn't a single pilsner or hefe weizen out there I can finish a pint of). Then I consider the situation. Season, time of day, and presence of food can all affect how a brew will taste.

There seems to be a trend of Small Brewery/Restaurants jumping up all over the place. Whenever I find myself at one of these places, I'm at the mercy of their local brewmaster. Hopefully, someone is there to describe the different brews with more than one or two words.

[Brady]

rockies brewing company hazed & infused dry-hopped ale.

http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/shelfy/40462.jpg

as for the belle's oberon, it's all we drank while we were in cadillac, mi for a wedding last summer. we even bought a small keg as a souvenir. had a few two-hearted ales as well.

I did not see this post yet ... so that makes this photo from tonight all the funnier!

My tasty evening:

http://burnedimage.afraid.org/temp/beerandegg.jpg

[ZinFreak]

:lol: Pickled eggs and beer... Your tasty evening --- ALONE! No one would come within 50 feet of you after consuming that. Don't light a match.

Personally, I like Kogel's Pickled Ring Bologna (from Michigan) with my beer. Damn that is good. I can't find it out here in California. When my inlaws come to visit, they always bring a cooler on the plane chocked full of Kogel's for me. Almost makes a week with my father in-law worth it.

[Brady]

You're just jealous! :D

[Th3Franz]

We had a $130 half-barrel this weekend from one of the nearby microbrews.. so good..

[MDork]

Stopped by my favorite beer/wine shop today (The Bottle Barn in Santa Rosa) and was able to find Stone Brewing Company's 10th Anniversay IPA. Six left on the shelf, I was nice and left 2 there!

MDork, thanks for the heads up!

Edit: OMG, this is a huge & awesome brew. At 10% alc/vol I can only drink one 22 oz bottle and still function. If you guys can find some Stone Brewing company ales, you've gotta give them a try. Had this with dinner tonight, low brow food, picked up some "Old Fashion Frankfurters" from my local butcher. Thursday night football, what else but beer and dogs? OK maybe Chili

Nice! Glad you were able to find some 10th. It is definitely a huge IPA. I had some Pliny the Younger with dinner tonight....damn its good. It definitely overpowered my gnocchi but was worth it!

[Gone2Tokyo]

This is the thread I have been waiting for since I tasted my first sip of good old dad's beer sitting on the counter.

My current (and long standing ) favorites in no particualr order are:
Heineken (Specially the Keg Cans)
Becks
Fosters (That sour Bastard! Damn those cans are good!)
** New Castle (currently my favorite due to it's attribute to give me a 'stoned' kind of beer buzz)
Sierra Nevada
Zywiec is good (dated a Polish girl and her two friends a couple years back.. good to be young and foolish, eh?)

Now I am guilty of breaking one of these laws! When I go out with my co-workers, they always order Bud Light. I started this pitcher tradoff deal so that I don't spend so much money. I buy, then you, then him, then her...etc. Unfortunately, this backfired on me causing everyone to want (you guessed it) Bud light only. My own fault I suppose. :)
Well boys and girls, it's 2 AM and I have to work at 10. I raise my final Fosters to yah, Have a great night! :)

[Brady]

Now I am guilty of breaking one of these laws! When I go out with my co-workers, they always order Bud Light. I started this pitcher tradoff deal so that I don't spend so much money. I buy, then you, then him, then her...etc. Unfortunately, this backfired on me causing everyone to want (you guessed it) Bud light only. My own fault I suppose. :)
Well boys and girls, it's 2 AM and I have to work at 10. I raise my final Fosters to yah, Have a great night! :)

It doesn't sound like you have a choice, so it's forgiven. But your mission is to move your co-workers to something else. I guess I don't know how, because it's hard to change a group. Maybe try converting one at a time. Good luck and godspeed. ;)

[Crawdaddy79]

http://www.crawspace.com/web3/d_pproud.jpg

What my fridge looked like when they were only $7 for a six pack.

[Gumby]

You fellows know your brew..I'm impressed.

I tend to favor Amber, Pale, and Lager's:
-Longboard Lager by Kona Brewing Co. (The best Lager I have ever had)
-Winter and Summer Solstices by Anderson Valley (Every beer they make is phenomenol)
Samuel Smith's Winter Ale (Fabulous)
Fat Tire and Skinny Dip by New Belgium (Their 2degree is good also)
Mirror Pond Pale Ale by Deutsh (Consistency is not always there)
Boddington's (the only beer I'll drink from a can)
Kilt Lifter Scotch Ale by Mt. Tam Brewing company (Drink with respect).

Great, now I miss CA :icon_sad:

[bgsntth]

Tis true Gumby,

It is ridicuolous at how many outstanding breweries there are between San Francisco and the Oregon border.

BTW, if any of you happen to visit the Marin Brew Co in Larkspur, be sure to sample their Cask Ale on pull-tap. The type usually varies by the brewer's mood, but it is always phenomenal. Plus, it will never get warmer or flater....

I've been sampling a lot of Winter Ale of late, as have all of you I'm sure, and I'm still of the opinion that Anderson Valley Winter Solstice is still the best. Opinions?

[Th3Franz]

http://www.crawspace.com/web3/d_pproud.jpg

What my fridge looked like when they were only $7 for a six pack.

only $7 a six pack for extra stout! OMG jealous!

[Crawdaddy79]

only $7 a six pack for extra stout! OMG jealous!

Class Six at Fort Meyer, VA.




Now that I'm out of the military those days are far far far behind me. :(


Now I wait for them to go on sale for $7.99 at the local grocery before I stock up.

[LegGTLT]

Post Holiday bump. I got a bottle of Bah Humbug Christmas Ale. Looking forward to trying it out! :D

[Earthworm]

Anyone try the Kimiklaus? (something like that) I was at Firkin in Libertyville and they had it, but I don't think I could have drank a %20 alcohol beer and still drive home, but Michael Jackson says its gooood.

[JessterCPA]

Anyone try the Kimiklaus? (something like that) I was at Firkin in Libertyville and they had it, but I don't think I could have drank a %20 alcohol beer and still drive home, but Michael Jackson says its gooood.

Samiclaus.

Good stuff. Hard to find.

Jesse

[BoxerGT2.5]

I had bud light and hpnotiq on New Years Eve.....it did the job. :lol:

[pacbreak gt]

Have any of you heard of a seasonal beer called "Noche Bueno"? It would come out in early December, and I think that it was brewed by Dos Eques. I haven't seem it for a few years.

[bdisco]

Not that Jimmy needs the money but...

http://lyke2drink.blogspot.com/
Jimmy Buffett Teaming Up With A-B



http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/4064/3389/320/317654/landsharklager.jpg (http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/4064/3389/1600/466232/landsharklager.jpg)
He is connected to two restaurant chains -- the Margaritaville Cafe and Cheeseburger in Paradise, owns shares in the minor league Fort Myers Miracle and Madison Black Wolf baseball clubs, appeared on Saturday Night Live, performed the first concert in Chicago's Wrigley Field and sang on the south lawn of the White House for a birthday bash for former President Bill Clinton. Now it looks like Jimmy Buffett is about to get his own beer.

Anheuser-Busch has received approval for a label from the U.S. Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau for a brew called Land Shark Lager from the Margaritaville Brewing Co. in Jacksonville, Fla. There has been talk of a deal between Buffett and A-B since the middle of this year. Land Shark Lager may be part of the next wave of flanker brands from the makers of Budweiser. The company has been working at a fever pitch for more than a year in rolling out new products aimed at various consumer niches. The approach to the massive Parrothead community, as Buffett's fans like to call themselves, could be overshadowed in 2007 if A-B follows through on another rumored move -- the acquisition of Sweden's state run Vin & Spirit, which makes Absolut vodka. The company announced cash flow and balance sheet moves this week that could be freeing up cash for a major acquisition.

Ironically, the A-B deal with Buffett has caused Crown Imports to drop its sponsorship under the Corona brand of Buffett's concerts in America. A-B holds a 50 percent share of Mexico's Grupo Modelo, which brews Corona. A-B recently signed a deal with Grupo Modelo to serve as the import agent for Corona in China.

[joeyjojoe]

Full Sail Amber Ale
Kilt Lifter (only as a last resort)
Fat Tire
Pyramid Hefe (i normally hate hefes)
Hoegaarden White

i'm not really knowledgeable though ... i just keep drinking stuff i've had and kinda like

[JessterCPA]

Have any of you heard of a seasonal beer called "Noche Bueno"? It would come out in early December, and I think that it was brewed by Dos Eques. I haven't seem it for a few years.

Yes. Noche Buena is the Dos Equis Christmas beer. Good find, if you can find it. Probably been about 7 years since I have seen it.

Jesse

[rc0032]

Samiclaus.

Good stuff. Hard to find.

Jesse
Had one last night...interesting taste and wow packs some punch :lol:

[Brady]

I like Bell's but im pissed they stop selling in Chicago due to political reasons. Therefor I dont drink that sweet sweet Oberon anymore :(

What? When did this happen? I just had some Oberon downtown this summer.... :(

Link to BS
http://www.chicagoist.com/archives/2006/10/16/the_bells_in_the_distance.php

I read up on this yesterday for a while in this article: http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/bells/

It was an interesting read. More because of how you can see how antiquated laws have actually inhibited interstate trade in the industry. It's sad to see how the reasons they cite for the existance of the laws don't seem to be backed by the examples shown in California, and the mecca of US Beer Snobbery, Colorado where small brewers have flourished creating hundreds upon hundreds of quality (and often popular) craft beers.

It would be interesting to see how Utah's laws stack up. After talking with a Brewer in Utah a year ago, I ruled Utah out as a state I would ever consider living in. They have some backwards laws in that state when it comes to alcohol.

[rc0032]

I read up on this yesterday for a while in this article: http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/bells/

It was an interesting read. More because of how you can see how antiquated laws have actually inhibited interstate trade in the industry. It's sad to see how the reasons they cite for the existance of the laws don't seem to be backed by the examples shown in California, and the mecca of US Beer Snobbery, Colorado where small brewers have flourished creating hundreds upon hundreds of quality (and often popular) craft beers.

It would be interesting to see how Utah's laws stack up. After talking with a Brewer in Utah a year ago, I ruled Utah out as a state I would ever consider living in. They have some backwards laws in that state when it comes to alcohol.
Its all a lie. They had it at the 2 bars I was at last night. It was even on special :lol::lol:

[Brady]

Are you sure? Last time I checked, Illinois was no longer listed as a distribution point. I could see how they might be able to sell off any current stock.

[rc0032]

Are you sure? Last time I checked, Illinois was no longer listed as a distribution point. I could see how they might be able to sell off any current stock.
Yes im sure they had it, might have been old I didnt try it :lol:

http://www.sheffieldschicago.com

[Brady]

:lol:

I wasn't questioning if they had it, I was questioning if it was fresh!

[sysfailur]

Belgian Abbey Brown Ales are what I'm all about. Expensive as all hell but oooooo SOOO GOOOD!

If there's a monk on the bottle, and it's from Belgium, and it's "made since" date is 1100-1400 you really can't go wrong imo :P

My favorite beer, and favorite of this style is Corsendonk Abbey Brown Ale. It is liquid heaven.

[urfsin]

Firestone Double Barrel Ale is good. Firestone also makes nice wine. You may know them as the maker of crappy tires that make the Ford Exploder, I mean Explorer roll over in a blowout.

One of the members of the Firestone family started the winery and brewery in Buelton, CA (wine country behind Santa Barbara)

Now all you have to do is get tanked up on some Firestone beer or wine, go drive your Exploder with Firestone tires and you have a rolling lawsuit waiting to happen. :lol: :lol:

[ZinFreak]

Firestone Double Barrel Ale is good. Firestone also makes nice wine. You may know them as the maker of crappy tires that make the Ford Exploder, I mean Explorer roll over in a blowout.

One of the members of the Firestone family started the winery and brewery in Buelton, CA (wine country behind Santa Barbara)

Now all you have to do is get tanked up on some Firestone beer or wine, go drive your Exploder with Firestone tires and you have a rolling lawsuit waiting to happen. :lol: :lol:

I didn't know Firestone started making beer too. Their wine was absolutely horrible.

[alcyone]

...the mecca of US Beer Snobbery, Colorado... LMAO!

[Brady]

LMAO!

It's just one more reason I love to visit my sister in Golden.

We hit the Yardhouse with my Bro-in-law and drink lots of good beer. But there are plenty of local establishments downtown with equally fine selections (just not stumbling distance of their Apartment!)

[urfsin]

I didn't know Firestone started making beer too. Their wine was absolutely horrible.

Too bad you did not like their wine, what kind did you have? I like the reserve Cab. But overall I like the beer from them better than the wine.

I was just up in your neck of the woods last Saturday. My wife and I were on a long road trip and we did a quick stop at some winerys in Sonoma. We hit Caneros Estate, St. Francis, Imagery and Benzinger. Then blasted home. We had a good time.

[alcyone]

It's just one more reason I love to visit my sister in Golden.

We hit the Yardhouse with my Bro-in-law and drink lots of good beer. But there are plenty of local establishments downtown with equally fine selections (just not stumbling distance of their Apartment!)the day i bought my LGT, we celebrated at the yardhouse. :)

[bdisco]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brady http://legacygt.com/forums/skynetim/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=934853#post934853)
...the mecca of US Beer Snobbery, Colorado...


Beer and Snob are two word that don't go together. I don't think there is a bad beer. In college as long as it was not too warm, not too flat, and didn't have a cigarette butt in it I would have drank it. Are some beers better then others Yes, but the only bad beer is no beer at all.

[JessterCPA]

I love the fact that this thread is 146 posts & growing!!

Wooohoo!! Here's to beer!

Jesse

[Brady]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brady http://legacygt.com/forums/skynetim/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=934853#post934853)
...the mecca of US Beer Snobbery, Colorado...


Beer and Snob are two word that don't go together. I don't think there is a bad beer. In college as long as it was not too warm, not too flat, and didn't have a cigarette butt in it I would have drank it. Are some beers better then others Yes, but the only bad beer is no beer at all.

And that is where you and I disagree.

I think that Budweiser, Miller, Busch, Michelob, etc. are all bad beers. They are so bad, in my opinion, that I really will avoid drinking them at almost any cost. I would pretty much only choose to drink them if a customer ordered it for me or possibly someone like a future father-in-law got it for me.

I even enjoy some of my beer at near room temperature. I sure don't like my beer to be too cold. It just kills the flavor.

[LegGTLT]

Off to Bellingham, WA tonight (my old college stomping grounds) and I can't wait to go get some Scotch Ale off the tap at Boundary Bay. Maybe they'll have some new winter seasonals too! :D

[DickDastardly00]

Someone say Hoegaarden? :D Or Tripel Karmeliet? :p Or Blue Moon even though it's now carried by Coors.

And Rich, you want a good local beer to top Mac's? Try this when you come out:

Boundary Bay Scotch (http://bbaybrewery.com/beer.php)located in Bellingham, WA and sold in lots of places around here.

+1 on the Hoegaarden, it took first place out of about 60 different local, and import microbrews at a local brewfest. There was so many kids of tasty beer Like Sapora, Pyaramid, even Blue Moon, but Hoegaarden is just better and tastes more pure. I've been trying to locate a case of it ever since, but no luck. I heard Trader Joes gets in in occasionally, but they were out when I checked.

For those not in the know, Hoegaarden is a true Belgian White Ale that has a pear juice color to it. It's almost completely white, very little yellow in the coloration (unlike Blue Moon, which is very yellow in color). Nothing against BLue Moon, that's good beer too, but it almost has too much of a peppery-spice taste to it. While Hoegaarden has actually less flavor than Blue Moon, it just has this superbly pure and refreshing taste! If anyone knows where to get a case locally, let me know!

[JessterCPA]

I heard the ABC came in & shut down the Cricket Hill Brewery in Fairfield NJ.

Anyone heard anything on this??

Jesse

[Crawdaddy79]

http://www.crawspace.com/web3/beer_troegsoatmeal.jpg

Great beer all around. Not good in high quantities because of it's 7.5% ABV, but it tastes pretty good and goes down easy.

Tonight I'm mixing it with a bit of coffee for a perfection of happy buzz.

[heightsgtltd]

Bumpsy for the new forum

[c-lo]

just picked up a Magic Hat #9 jersey from performance Bike shop:

http://www.performancebike.com/product_images/250/10-0197-NCL-FRONT.jpg

[PGT]

there's a great pizza joint in town that has an incredible beer selection. I had Abita's Jockamo IPA....excellent

http://www.abita.com/images/ABIT698_11_13_07/jockamo_brew_news.jpg

[heightsgtltd]

Nice, I like magic hat


Have you guys ever Peroni? Italian beer that I like a lot.

[PGT]

Peroni is piss. Olive Garden has it. :lol:

[heightsgtltd]

Iz you crazy? Peroni is really good, it's not the Beer's fault that Olive garden has it :lol:

BTW, what are you doing eating at Olive Garden? :lol:

[VVG]

I like to play a game with beer snobs. I keep plain ole Budweiser in the cellar so it's not freezing cold. Then I serve it in one of the big earthenware mugs I brought back from Germany. They love it. And, of course, they're horrified that their sophisticated beer palate cannot detect plain ole Bud. Works every time! Most Americans serve beer so cold you can't tell the difference between one lager and another.

[heightsgtltd]

^^ that's awesome! :lol:

I am highbrow and lowbrow about food and drink, as long as it's good

[PGT]

BTW, what are you doing eating at Olive Garden? :lol:

every time I go, I ask myself that same question.

in other news, I ran the back of the house at one in the early 90's while in college...that's where I learned how to cook, back when they still made things from scratch (like their pasta).

[heightsgtltd]

There's no way you learned how to cook at an Olive Garden :lol:

[PGT]

I like to play a game with beer snobs. I keep plain ole Budweiser in the cellar so it's not freezing cold. Then I serve it in one of the big earthenware mugs I brought back from Germany. They love it. And, of course, they're horrified that their sophisticated beer palate cannot detect plain ole Bud. Works every time! Most Americans serve beer so cold you can't tell the difference between one lager and another.

my main issue with Bud is the skunk aftertaste. maybe it's the temp then? There's a similar beer in Argentina called Quilmes Cristal (owned by the German company Warsteiner). It's like Bud, without the skunk aftertaste. I love it when I'm there but it's analogous to Bud in that the beer snobs there think it's piss.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beerimages/7485.jpg

[PGT]

There's no way you learned how to cook at an Olive Garden :lol:

I swear man. I started there when I took time off from school at age 19. We used to make everything from scratch except the red sauce. I don't think they've done that in 10+ years.

[c-lo]

Peroni is piss. Olive Garden has it. :lol:

Peroni is good stuff!! you must be thinking of Mickys Big Mouth:rolleyes:

[VVG]

^^ that's awesome! :lol:

I am highbrow and lowbrow about food and drink, as long as it's good
I'm willing to give almost any beer the benefit of the doubt!

[Earthworm]

Just spent an evening (well only an hour) at New Belgium Brewing Co. in Ft. Collins, CO. I thought it was a brewpub where you can sit at the bar and get beer and food, but it is only a brewery, but you do get four free drinks with each visit. Here was my selection:
http://www.jjs-chicken.com/9ball/new_belgium.JPG

And here is the fun girl I met there (this is us ice skating afterwards):
http://www.jjs-chicken.com/9ball/lisa.JPG

[heightsgtltd]

Nice, and congrats on picking up the chick :)

[mattg]

my only problem w/ New Belgium is that every variety I've tried tastes like it has Fat Tire as a base.

[Earthworm]

yeah I wasn't too impressed, the only good beers I had there were the abbey and the tripel

[nhesketh]

I have always like the Harpoon IPA, one of the best India pale ales out there. The rest of the Harpoon line is good, but they tend to all taste the same.

My regular beer is either Sam Adams Boston Lager or Ale, and their Black Lager is really good too.

Berkshire Brewing (South Deerfield, MA) only bottles in 22s and half-gallon growlers. Their beer are ALL really good, but my fave is the Steel Rail Pale Ale. Brother lives there, so we went on a tour a few weeks ago and the samples were terrific.

One of my favorite breweries EVER is Smuttynose from Portsmouth, NH. Their Shoals Pale Ale is the best, and I just tried their Winter Ale and it was smooth, full, malty, hoppy, alcoholy, and just one of the best things I have ever had ever.

[ProjectS15]

http://www.arnoldsat.com/starnold/SaintArnold.jpg

[rc0032]

my only problem w/ New Belgium is that every variety I've tried tastes like it has Fat Tire as a base.
+1



when do you get to CA?

[Tocsin]

West Coast IPA is my fav beer ATM.


http://smiliesftw.com/x/beer.gif

[sebberry]

It's all gross :)

[heightsgtltd]

You don't like beer? Do you get carded a lot? :p

[sactojesse]

West Coast IPA is my fav beer ATM.


http://smiliesftw.com/x/beer.gif
Same here. Make it hoppy and high alcohol. West coast IPAs are my favorites, including Stone IPA, Lagunitas IPA, Butte Creek IPA, Racer 5 IPA, etc.

[Tocsin]

Same here. Make it hoppy and high alcohol. West coast IPAs are my favorites, including Stone IPA, Lagunitas IPA, Butte Creek IPA, Racer 5 IPA, etc.

Don't know if I've had the Butte Creek IPA. All those others I love:cool:

Bar down the street has a great IPA rotation. Had me some Rubicon IPA, really good. A lot like Racer 5, but better.

[icy]

Arrogant Bastard (http://www.arrogantbastard.com/) FTW

[Crawdaddy79]

Arrogant Bastard (http://www.arrogantbastard.com/) FTW

I love that beer. It's one of few that tastes better the more you drink.

[sactojesse]

Don't know if I've had the Butte Creek IPA. All those others I love:cool:

Bar down the street has a great IPA rotation. Had me some Rubicon IPA, really good. A lot like Racer 5, but better.
Rubicon IPA is great, but I've never seen it in bottle. I understand that Stone and Rubicon have a beer sharing agreement, so I can get Stone IPA on tap at Rubicon Brewing Company in Sacramento. :wub:

[Tocsin]

Rubicon IPA is great, but I've never seen it in bottle. I understand that Stone and Rubicon have a beer sharing agreement, so I can get Stone IPA on tap at Rubicon Brewing Company in Sacramento. :wub:

Yeah the bartender said Rubicon doesn't get bottled...

http://smiliesftw.com/x/beer.gif

[mattg]

+1



when do you get to CA?
CO?

[rc0032]

Rubicon IPA is great, but I've never seen it in bottle. I understand that Stone and Rubicon have a beer sharing agreement, so I can get Stone IPA on tap at Rubicon Brewing Company in Sacramento. :wub:
Want to do a meet there next week?


CO?
No CA...hes on a road trip.

[sebberry]

Do you get carded a lot? :p
Never :confused:

[sactojesse]

Want to do a meet there next week?
Sure, but you should post in the NorCal forum to see how many are interested. Rubicon is great, but it's in midtown, so it's likely that we will be spread out for parking. Hoppy Brewing Company, Sacramento Brewing Company, or BJ's Brewhouse in Natomas might be better choices because of the larger parking lots available there.

[rallysquirrel]

My favorite is Erdinger. I've brewed a Hefeweizen, Phat Tyre, Kolsch, and Pilsner.
I've grown tired of drinking skunked beer, esp Yuengling which is otherwise my old standby, so I started brewing my own.

I've just sold my Perlick commercial kegerator below and will be hopefully building another from a couple year old fridge. I'll be running 2 taps.

[Scotty]

Okay, my friend spoiled me. Begium beers rule. A bit pricy though especially at a good pub. $7-9 for a glass.

[bsdzine]

odell's IPA - best IPA imho - not crazy with hops, but enough to get the full flavor and the full drunk :rolleyes:

actually, anything odell's - best CO brewer everrrrr (in fact, i'm drinking their easy street wheat right now - with that lovely .25" of yeast at the bottom that requires the drinker to stir it then pour into a glass to fully enjoy it)

[rallysquirrel]

friends don't let friends drink Peroni.....unless they're REALLY thirsty.

Peroni is tought of as a Corona in EU.

[Earthworm]

Want to do a meet there next week?



No CA...hes on a road trip.

You talking about me? Cause you asked mattg when he's getting there, but when he asked you what you meant you said "he" is on a road trip... I assume that's me...

I just got to the SF area yesterday. I'm gonna post a thread about some of my tribulations in NC.

When and where are you when you come here?

[CTATV]

I love most anybody who has the balls to make a hefeweizen. Its by far my favorite type of beer ever. Magic Hat makes "circus Boy" and Harpoon makes UFO "Un-Filtered Offering" hefeweizen is an unfiltered beer some of the wheat settles at the bottom and you have to spin the bottle around to get it mixed in for the full bodied taste. hard to explain if you havent had it but its soo good.

Slightly off topic but my brother and I had a christmas party the night of the 25th and we had a keg of Newcastle. ohh that was soo good from the tap.

Wikipedia write up:

Hefeweizen

Hefeweizen is a German style of wheat beer in which the yeast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast) is not filtered out. Though Kristallweizen (clear), Dunkelweizen (dark), and Weizenstarkbier or Weizenbock (higher alcohol content) varieties are available, they are not considered true hefeweizen unless left unfiltered. The filtration which takes the yeast out of Kristallweizen also strips the wheat proteins which make Hefeweizen cloudy.
Alternate terms for hefeweizen include: Hefeweißbier, sometimes Weißbier, Hefeweiße, Weizenstarkbier (not necessarily a hefeweizen unless left unfiltered)
The hefeweizen style is particularly noted for its low hop bitterness (about 15 IBUs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBUs)) and relatively high carbonation (approaching four atmospheres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheres)), considered important to balance the beer's relatively malty sweetness.
Another balancing flavor note unique to hefeweizen beer is its phenolic character; its signature phenol is 4-vinyl guaiacol (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/61003783/ABSTRACT), a metabolite of ferulic acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferulic_acid), the result of fermentation by ale yeast appropriate for the style. Hefeweizen's phenolic character has been described as "clove" and "medicinal" ("Band-aid") but also smoky. Other more typical but less assertive ale flavor notes include "banana" (amyl acetate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyl_acetate)) and sometimes "vanilla" (vanillin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanillin)).
Some prominent commercial examples of hefeweizen are produced by Paulaner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulaner), Erdinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdinger), Schneider Weisse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Schneider_%26_Sohn) (original amber only), Franziskaner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franziskaner), Rothaus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothaus), Hacker-Pschorr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker-Pschorr), Ayinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayinger) (Bräu Weisse) and Weihenstephan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihenstephan). The style is a favorite throughout Germany, but is especially in Bavaria and across Southern Germany.

[thespookmaN]

Stone IPA for me :)

[bsdzine]

Hefeweizen is a German style of wheat beer in which the yeast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast) is not filtered out. Though Kristallweizen (clear), Dunkelweizen (dark), and Weizenstarkbier or Weizenbock (higher alcohol content) varieties are available, they are not considered true hefeweizen unless left unfiltered. The filtration which takes the yeast out of Kristallweizen also strips the wheat proteins which make Hefeweizen cloudy.
Alternate terms for hefeweizen include: Hefeweißbier, sometimes Weißbier, Hefeweiße, Weizenstarkbier (not necessarily a hefeweizen unless left unfiltered)
The hefeweizen style is particularly noted for its low hop bitterness (about 15 IBUs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBUs)) and relatively high carbonation (approaching four atmospheres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheres)), considered important to balance the beer's relatively malty sweetness.
Another balancing flavor note unique to hefeweizen beer is its phenolic character; its signature phenol is 4-vinyl guaiacol (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/61003783/ABSTRACT), a metabolite of ferulic acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferulic_acid), the result of fermentation by ale yeast appropriate for the style. Hefeweizen's phenolic character has been described as "clove" and "medicinal" ("Band-aid") but also smoky. Other more typical but less assertive ale flavor notes include "banana" (amyl acetate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyl_acetate)) and sometimes "vanilla" (vanillin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanillin)).
Some prominent commercial examples of hefeweizen are produced by Paulaner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulaner), Erdinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdinger), Schneider Weisse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Schneider_%26_Sohn) (original amber only), Franziskaner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franziskaner), Rothaus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothaus), Hacker-Pschorr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker-Pschorr), Ayinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayinger) (Bräu Weisse) and Weihenstephan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihenstephan). The style is a favorite throughout Germany, but is especially in Bavaria and across Southern Germany.

for all you who garnish your hefe with a lemon or orange: don't drop the fruit into the beer! Rub the lemon/orange around the rim of the glass then discard it (or just keep it on the rim of the glass). The citrus smell and tingle on your lips is a great compliment for this style beer imo.

mmmm franziskaner with an orange

[heightsgtltd]

I like that idea..

[Inigo Montoya]

We have a couple of good places down here in Phoenix

Four Peaks Brewing is probably my favorite, they keep an oatmeal stout on tap all the time and even do two desserts with it as well. The oatmeal chocolate shake and the Stoutamisu (tiramisu with the oatmeal stout).

I am usually an amber or darker beer drinker, although you can catch me drinking hefs as well.

I started my beer drinking road with Hard cider, and still love to drink them, one of these days I will try making some of my own.

I do have to admit that my wife and I honeymooned in Ireland. We got off the plane and got our rental car, 8 in the morning over there. Went and parked in Dublin. Wandered for a bit, got breakfast then headed to the Guinness Storehouse. Did the tour and ended up in the Gravity Bar (340 degrees glassed in bar that rises above the town) and had my first of many Guinness over there. On an interesting note, they do server 2 different types there, you can get the standard Guinness that is served a bit cooler than room temp, and then a specific Guinness extra cold that is supposed to be kept cold from the factory under certain guidelines. I could taste a difference so it was an interesting comparison.

[rallysquirrel]

today I just cooked up some Pilsner and Irish red.
Best place to buy kits and/or ingredients for homebrew stuff is www.northernbrewer.com (http://www.northernbrewer.com)


UFO and Widmer are the best american wheats IMO.

[heightsgtltd]

But can you get them to come out of the two taps in your avatar picture? :lol:

[Bdubs]

I love Blue Moon. More so on tap than out of the bottle. Its just so thick and warming. Their seasonal brews aren't that bad either.
The same goes for Stella Artois, my second favorite beer of choice.

[Crawdaddy79]

Drinking Full Moon right now.

Good. :)

[coxx]

I was enjoying a few Leffe's the other night ;) I'm a fan.

I'm a fan of alot of the Beligians. Hogaarden works for me too

[JessterCPA]

UFO and Widmer are the best american wheats IMO.

You should try Ramstein brewed right here in Butler NJ at High Point Brewery if you like the wheat beers. Not my fav (I just do not like wheats as much as other styles), but definately a good brew.

Jesse

[rallysquirrel]

JessterCPA,

Thanks I definitely will try when I get a chance.

[05pearl]

Celebrator Dopplebock!!!

[Tommyh]

We think of American beer, the same way the French think of American wine :lol:

...that the colonies got it right?

[Crawdaddy79]

Got a case of Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA Thursday. $58

I'm about halfway finished with it.

That's some good stuff.

[bdisco]

http://www.beerfestamerica.com/

http://www.beerfestamerica.com/i/logo.jpg

[JDMChizad]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I love beer. :wub:

A couple of my favorite breweries are Rogue (Oregon) and Squatters (Utah).

Living in Utah, we don't have much choice. Our "lite" beer is lightened even more. I make monthly drives to Wyoming or Nevada (both about the same distance) to buy my beer. Not to mention we have to pay "Sin Tax." Yes, that's right. Sin tax.

What I'm drinking right now?

Red Hook ESB! From Seattle.

[JDMChizad]

I love Chocolate Porter and Shakespeare Stout from Rogue... Now THAT is beer!

[Tocsin]

Rogue beers are pretty good. I2PA is yummy.

[CTATV]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I love beer. :wub:

What I'm drinking right now?

Red Hook ESB! From Seattle.

i was going to say i was pretty sure anheuser bush owned red hook but apparently they are "partners"

anyhow some of you might find it interesting how much of your beer is cold bush...


http://www.anheuser-busch.com/BeerVerified.html

you know what they say... Cold Bush leads to warm Bush ;)

and George Bush leads to a large national deficit and a devalued US currency

[JDMChizad]

:icon_arro+100000000000000000000000000000000

:icon_mrgr

[JDMChizad]

And I never knew Red Hook was a partner with Anheuser-Busch...

[JDMChizad]

Holy shit that is a huge list! I had no clue. So much shitty beer.

[Tocsin]

And I never knew Red Hook was a partner with Anheuser-Busch...

Didn't check the link but I think that AB just distributes Red Hook. Doesn't brew it o' nutin'

[JDMChizad]

Good. Cause it is one of my favorite beers.

[Crawdaddy79]

Good. Cause it is one of my favorite beers.

So you wouldn't like it if Busch brewed it? WTF difference does it make... good beer is good beer.

I don't like Red Hook for what it's worth.

[Tocsin]

Redhook Ale
As part of an equity investment in the Redhook Ale Brewery in Seattle, Anheuser-Busch wholesalers have distributed Redhook's superior microbrewery products since 1994 in select U.S. markets. Brands include Redhook Extra Special Bitter (ESB) Ale, Ballard Bitter Ale, Blackhook Porter and Wheathook Ale, among others.

[JDMChizad]

So you wouldn't like it if Busch brewed it? WTF difference does it make... good beer is good beer.

I don't like Red Hook for what it's worth.

:eek: Wow. Jeez. Calm down. Being sarcastic. What do you drink?

[JDMChizad]

I find that microbreweries have better tasting beer, though.

[Brady]

So you wouldn't like it if Busch brewed it? WTF difference does it make... good beer is good beer.

I don't like Red Hook for what it's worth.

Good beer or not, I often try to avoid beers owned by the big macro-breweries. I Generally do not support their business practices and do as much as I can to support micro-breweries.

Macro-breweries and out-dated laws are a major reason that Bell's no longer sells beer in Chicago (well, all of Illinois) and that had previously been their Number 2 market. Larry Bell decided he couldn't legally sell his beer in the state of Illinois without compromising quality.

So, in general, I just support the little guys, because were it not for them, the big guys wouldn't make ANY good beer, period.

[JDMChizad]

:whore:

The only beer on that entire AB list that I enjoy is the Red Hook; and they are only distributing partners.

[JDMChizad]

We have a lot of micro-breweries here in Utah. I think mainly due to the fact that are laws limit us to 3.2 beer and the micros are allowed to sell 4.0. Also, our beer selection sucks! I know Squatters has many awards for their beers... Has anybody else seen anything from Squatters out of state?

[mattg]

Rogue is really good, but it's overpriced around here. Why would I pay $9.99 for a six pack of Rogue when I can get a sixer of Deschutes for $6.99? If it was superior I guess I could understand, but it's not.

The cool thing about Rogue is if you go into one of their Breweries, they have an insane collection of ales on tap.

[Brady]

I don't know if Squatters distributes out of Utah. I got my lesson on Beer in Utah from a guy at Squatters though. The sad thing is that Squatters can't sell some of its award winning beers in Utah at all. Basically, at least one example he showed me, the batch they brewed for the award winning brew had to be altered to conform to the goofy laws of Utah.

And, if I remember correctly, the alcohol content limit pertains to draft, but anything above 4.0 has to be in a bottle, where after I think they may go up to 6% alcohol content maximum for a beer.

All I know is that after about an hour talking to that guy, I realized I could never live in that state. I'll stick to visiting.

[Crawdaddy79]

Good beer or not, I often try to avoid beers owned by the big macro-breweries. I Generally do not support their business practices and do as much as I can to support micro-breweries.

Macro-breweries and out-dated laws are a major reason that Bell's no longer sells beer in Chicago (well, all of Illinois) and that had previously been their Number 2 market. Larry Bell decided he couldn't legally sell his beer in the state of Illinois without compromising quality.

So, in general, I just support the little guys, because were it not for them, the big guys wouldn't make ANY good beer, period.While I agree with your ideology I disagree with just about anything else. If people didn't like popular beer, it wouldn't be popular. Just because it's crap doesn't mean that most people don't think it's good.

Though Star -vs- Club... Star is the main beer of Ghana. Call it the "Budweiser" if you will. It tastes like ass. Club is the lesser known beer and appears on tap at various venues, but people rarely drink it. It is one of the best beers I've ever had. I was working with a guy who said he loved Star, and when I asked if he ever tried Club he said he didn't because Star was pretty damn good. Well I bought a pitcher of Club and he tried it then... and when he took that first sip the expression on his face looked like he had been living a lie. He was simply amazed at how much smoother and cleaner Club tasted (it is also a bit on the sweet side, which I like). Moral of the story, adventurous people take risks and usually win. Until adventurous people no longer exist microbreweries will always be around.

[CTATV]

I like micro brew beer, out here two major ones are magic hat and long trail (both in VT) and i guess sam adams was at one time a micro brewery (outside boston) but if im drinking all night with my friends A) its a good deal more expensive around here B) a lot of it is more filling.

I dont know about you guys but in CT even for the micro brews from VT (not as much distribution cost) its 8 or 9 bucks for a 6 pack. my buddy at school in VT is lucky you can buy those growler jugs for like 7 or 8 bucks and you bring the jug back they fill it back up for 3 or 4 bucks.

in middle school, I drank captain morgans didnt like beer, sophmore year switched to jameson, junior year, learned that i LOVED beer. Drank budwiser when it was still cheap, splerged for longtrail, magic hat, newcastle, sierra, and red stripe. now for some reason its more expensive and if im going to pay that much ill pay a little more and get good beer. used to be like 22-25 bucks for a 30 pack of bud now its $30+. As for booze I have softened up, I drink Jager, Dr. McGilicutties (spelled wrong), or sometimes splerge for the oil slick (shot half jager half Goldshlager. oh yeah and every once and a while who doesnt get some blackberry brandy when they are out skiing or snowmobiling in the winter...

[JDMChizad]

I don't know if Squatters distributes out of Utah. I got my lesson on Beer in Utah from a guy at Squatters though. The sad thing is that Squatters can't sell some of its award winning beers in Utah at all. Basically, at least one example he showed me, the batch they brewed for the award winning brew had to be altered to conform to the goofy laws of Utah.

And, if I remember correctly, the alcohol content limit pertains to draft, but anything above 4.0 has to be in a bottle, where after I think they may go up to 6% alcohol content maximum for a beer.

All I know is that after about an hour talking to that guy, I realized I could never live in that state. I'll stick to visiting.

Hahaha! You got it! Actually, you have to go to their restaurant/brewery to try a lot of their great brews. Their award-winning IPA is 6.0% and I think if I remember right, they have to bottle it, sell it to the State Liquor Store, buy it back, THEN they can sell it. Or something weird like that. Only in the liquor store or the brewery can you try it, though.

Utah's goofy laws SUCK. But, if you like the outdoors, it's a great place. This is why I drive out of state to pick up my beer. :lol:

[mattg]

We have a lot of micro-breweries here in Utah. I think mainly due to the fact that are laws limit us to 3.2 beer and the micros are allowed to sell 4.0
wouldn't want you guys to get out of control. :lol:

[JDMChizad]

Liquor stores here are state owned and have shitty hours. So if I do not get my beer stocked and I run out on a Sunday... I'm screwed. Sometimes I have to drink that AB shit; and since it's 3.2%, it's like drinking soda.

[JDMChizad]

wouldn't want you guys to get out of control. :lol:

Sometimes it gets out of hand... I'll get used to our 4.0 micro, go to Wendover (Nevada border-town with lots of Casinos) and drink as much as I usually do without realizing the difference in alcohol content. This happened last weekend and I ended up with a 2-day hangover. The casino started serving Fat Tire (New Belgium is another favorite brewer of mine; also not available here), which happens to be another favorite, so I drank a lot of them.

[CTATV]

I have a summerhouse in the 1000 islands (NY Canada Border) and I love going to the Ontario state store "the beer store" to pick up some labat Maximum ICE

[Brady]

While I agree with your ideology I disagree with just about anything else. If people didn't like popular beer, it wouldn't be popular. Just because it's crap doesn't mean that most people don't think it's good.

Actually, they're popular largely because it is "easy to drink" and have little flavor. Sadly, most people drink beer for the sake of drinking. Many people drink the beer that is most readily available, or least offensive to the palate.

If you look at the two primary ingredients responsible for flavoring beer, barley and hops, and you compare how much are used per barrel, you'll find that about 80% of beer sold in the US (the macro-brews) have about 10% of the amount of the same ingredients used in the micro-brews produced in the US.

The masses don't drink beer for the flavor. It's an acquired taste, much like wine, and if people were willing to venture out of the familiar, they'd likely find some beers they enjoy.

So, yes, people do drink what tastes like ass (or, more accurately, doesn't taste like much of anything at all). They just don't know anything else. They're consumers driven by marketing. It happens.

[KA81]

git er done!

[Brady]

Hahaha! You got it! Actually, you have to go to their restaurant/brewery to try a lot of their great brews. Their award-winning IPA is 6.0% and I think if I remember right, they have to bottle it, sell it to the State Liquor Store, buy it back, THEN they can sell it. Or something weird like that. Only in the liquor store or the brewery can you try it, though.

Utah's goofy laws SUCK. But, if you like the outdoors, it's a great place. This is why I drive out of state to pick up my beer. :lol:

Actually, ALL alcohol has to be sold through the state run warehouse. So even stuff they keg, they have to sell to the warehouse, then buy it back. The bad part is that they can't just do this on paper, they PHYSICALLY have to sell it to them, then buy it back. And the warehouse isn't even REFRIGERATED!!!!

There could be an exception for brewpubs and beer at 3.2 or less, but I don't recall. I was so horrified at that point the details got foggy.

[CTATV]

Actually, ALL alcohol has to be sold through the state run warehouse. So even stuff they keg, they have to sell to the warehouse, then buy it back. The bad part is that they can't just do this on paper, they PHYSICALLY have to sell it to them, then buy it back. And the warehouse isn't even REFRIGERATED!!!!

There could be an exception for brewpubs and beer at 3.2 or less, but I don't recall. I was so horrified at that point the details got foggy.

wow thats out of control, those laws are about as out dated as our blue laws are

(cant buy booze on sundays, or after 9PM, it was 8PM until about a year or so ago)

[Brady]

Blue laws are still pretty common ... and outdated ;)

Minnesota and Colorado are both the same that you can't buy alcohol on Sunday. How late tends to vary from county to county.

Either way, those laws need to go away.

The one thing that I actually do not support is grocery stores selling alcohol. I like states that don't allow it better because I tend to find that the Liquor stores have a better selection and as good, if not better prices, than in states where alcohol is commonly sold in Grocery stores.

Granted, my sample sizes are small, primarily comparing Minnesota and Colorado (Liquor stores, not grocery stores) and Michigan and California (grocery stores, few "liquor" stores).

I've lived in Minnesota, Michigan and Colorado, and visited California often enough to notice a trend.

Just one person's observations.

[JDMChizad]

The masses don't drink beer for the flavor. It's an acquired taste, much like wine, and if people were willing to venture out of the familiar, they'd likely find some beers they enjoy.


Exactly. I usually enjoy a beer a day. Definitely not going to get wasted over it, I just enjoy a good beer. I hate going to parties where people have piles of Natural Light; I find it a waste of beer. I actually took some friends to Squatters the other night and had them try the sampler. Pilsner, Hefe, Pale Ale, and Stout. Out of 3 guys, only one of them liked the different beers. The other guys ended up ordering fcking Apricot Hefe; which is a good beer, but come on. I was almost embarrassed. There are not many people that really enjoy a good beer.

[JDMChizad]

Actually, ALL alcohol has to be sold through the state run warehouse. So even stuff they keg, they have to sell to the warehouse, then buy it back. The bad part is that they can't just do this on paper, they PHYSICALLY have to sell it to them, then buy it back. And the warehouse isn't even REFRIGERATED!!!!


Yes, I absolutely hate that! I think it was only the beer over 3.2% (or local micro over 4.0%) they had to do that little trick with because it is considered a "heavy beer." But yeah... Beer in our liquor stores is not stored refrigerated! Plus the sin tax. So plan on bringing lots of money and not drinking it until the next day.

[CTATV]

Blue laws are still pretty common ... and outdated ;)

Minnesota and Colorado are both the same that you can't buy alcohol on Sunday. How late tends to vary from county to coun