Challenges from other drivers?

[tsyGT]

Today a guy in a Mustang Cobra tried to race me around the block and blew through a stop sign to do it. I didn't even try and I wasn't driving fast, so I'm not sure what provoked him. I've had the same problem with little teenagers in civics and neons and stuff. :mad:

I'm going to need an STi version to take on a Cobra though. :(

Maybe I need to get rid of this spoiler.

Anyone have the same problem? And do you have a spoiler?

tom

[gtguy]

Ignore them, and they will go away.

Kevin

[dimil]

so far never, or maybe they just see car seat in the back :)

[Th3Franz]

I avoid eye contact with other drivers.

[mmanus88]

has it occured to you that the guy in the cobra probably blew half a tank of gas by running that stop sign :)

remember, his car is american. once i had a convo with my friend who is a muscle head, we were talking about pontiac firebired i think

him: "dam thats a fast car, its so hot."
me: "dude its american its a pece of shit"

at this point he got pissed so i tried to make him feel better

me: "alright alright so its a fast peice fo shit, happy?"

[tsyGT]

I avoid eye contact with other drivers.

That's the weird thing. I didn't even look at him (or even notice him. :lol: )

mmanus88, Yeah, It must take a special person to buy expensive old technology American muscle! You think only 1/2 tank of gas? ;)

Kevin, yeah, I just ignore them. But still these idiots come out of the woodworks!

Maybe I need to put some carseats in the back. ;)

Thanks guys

tom

[liquidiq]

C5 and C6 Corvettes get 30mpg, and make 400hp.

How's that for old tech?

[Gumby]

C5 and C6 Corvettes get 30mpg, and make 400hp.

How's that for old tech?
Good point, the reason being light weight, good aerodynamics, low rpm at freeway speeds, if only they were all like that. BTW, a good deal of engine technology came from Lotus back in the day which has no doubt been built on.

[mccorry]

has it occured to you that the guy in the cobra probably blew half a tank of gas by running that stop sign :)

remember, his car is american. once i had a convo with my friend who is a muscle head, we were talking about pontiac firebired i think

him: "dam thats a fast car, its so hot."
me: "dude its american its a pece of shit"

at this point he got pissed so i tried to make him feel better

me: "alright alright so its a fast peice fo shit, happy?"


Are you trying to be ignorant? It isn't like the Legacy is a gas sipper.
I bet that COBRA gets just as good of gas milage....

American car does not always = shit..........

[Deer Killer]

American car does not always = shit..........

I haven't been in one yet that hasn't been falling apart.. I'll let you know when that changes.

[gt_ltd]

i got "challenged" a few times but i always ignored them. do i get something if i win? no. do i burn more gas and waste time, money and energy? yes! i see many idiots every day (some on the road, some in this site, some in school) and i just laugh as if they are trying to entertain me (maybe they are). :)

[Enlight]

I haven't been in one yet that hasn't been falling apart.. I'll let you know when that changes.

The Legacy is USDM except for the drivetrain, and it's just simple-minded to say all American cars are junk. American cars have been starting to get their acts together these past couple of years.

[Deer Killer]

The Legacy is USDM except for the drivetrain, and it's just simple-minded to say all American cars are junk. American cars have been starting to get their acts together these past couple of years.

..and that scares me.. I'll be doing a good round of undercoating this weekend. Let's see what happens to the body.. BTW there's a visible seam between the roof and rear quarter in every legacy I've seen in the northeast. That was done in america :)

[tsyGT]

C5 and C6 Corvettes get 30mpg, and make 400hp.

How's that for old tech?

I don't equate a C6 vette with the ancient platform of the Mustang Cobra (I think it's been around for 14 years?). The C6 is a great performing car, especially for the price. But you have to admit the engine isn't exactly state of the art (although it certainly does produce). But you figure giving it multivalve and variable valve timing technology ought to make more hp and torque out of the same displacement. It would just cost more.

IIRC the Mustang doesn't even have an Indie rear suspension. A lot of hp and big tires does not make for a sophisticated or great car, IMHO. :)

Hey, this thread got moved. Did I post it in the wrong place?

tom

[Driver72]

Good point, the reason being light weight, good aerodynamics, low rpm at freeway speeds, if only they were all like that. BTW, a good deal of engine technology came from Lotus back in the day which has no doubt been built on.


Actually the big fat heavy Pontiac GTO also gets 30 mpg on the highway.

[agctr]

I have to admit, I have a few good KILL stories but I do pick and choose my runs.
Adam.

[awdG35killer]

i have no spoiler, but i really wanted to race this modded 03 celica GTS that blew by me...his windows were limo tint so no eye contact, i didnt rev but i started off pretty fast but he was a no go he actually made a right turnwhe nthe light turned green...odd since he was in the MIDDLE LANE! i wonder why he didnt wanna drive fast anymore?

[Driver72]

..and that scares me.. I'll be doing a good round of undercoating this weekend. Let's see what happens to the body.. BTW there's a visible seam between the roof and rear quarter in every legacy I've seen in the northeast. That was done in america :)

And basically EVERY newer Toyota Camry driving on America's roads have been built in America....yet they get some of the highest reliability ratings around.
Same goes with many of Toyota's other cars, as well with Honda too I believe.
If there's a "seam" there it ain't because the car is assembled in America, it's because it was designed that way in Japan.

[Deer Killer]

And basically EVERY newer Toyota Camry driving on America's roads have been built in America....yet they get some of the highest reliability ratings around.
Same goes with many of Toyota's other cars, as well with Honda too I believe.
If there's a "seam" there it ain't because the car is assembled in America, it's because it was designed that way in Japan.

Yeah, a ripple in the paint, designed in? Anyone from Japan care to comment?

[ih8vtec13]

I got a what the hell are you doing the speed limit in that car look from sombodys passanger today so i thought geting to 80 or 90 and passing them should do it but it was the first time i came even close to opening it up today and i hit 110 with no effort at all

[jbooker]

And basically EVERY newer Toyota Camry driving on America's roads have been built in America....yet they get some of the highest reliability ratings around.
Same goes with many of Toyota's other cars, as well with Honda too I believe.
If there's a "seam" there it ain't because the car is assembled in America, it's because it was designed that way in Japan.

It's not where or who builds the car. It is the system they use to build the cars. Toyota is more reliable than GM because they have a different production system. GM tries to produce as many cars as possible at once to reduce cost, where Toyota will produce what they need. This reduces cost because they don't have to store their cars in a huge wharehouse like GM. Also, when Toyota finds a fault in the assembly line, they go back and fix whatever was making the fault instead of worrying about it later. GM, won't due this. They just plan on going back through the cars to fix them or wait for a recall.

I can go into this more, but I'd rather not bore everyone. For more info, research kahn bahn

[ih8vtec13]

The Legacy is USDM except for the drivetrain, and it's just simple-minded to say all American cars are junk. American cars have been starting to get their acts together these past couple of years.
some of them have been around for colse to 100 years why are they just starting now. the engineering on imports and just the the differance in the way they think ahead farther the americam car makers is the reason america has been getting beaten in the car market place for some time now.

[SUBY3]

I took an M3 on friday. Tires should be your first Mod.

[*Jedimaster*]

How did that go? I'm thinking it was very close.

[godwhomismike]

I've had no one even look at me for a challange. Wait, one older Legacy cruised near me on a highway for a bit.

- Mike

[05LegacyGT330Ci]

How did that go? I'm thinking it was very close.

Not if it was an E46.

[wunderkind]

I bet on short spurts, the Legacy will outdo even an E46 M3. Check out the 0-30mph.

[tsyGT]

I bet on short spurts, the Legacy will outdo even an E46 M3. Check out the 0-30mph.
Or in the rain. And especially snow! :D

tom

[Subietonic]

I can go into this more, but I'd rather not bore everyone. For more info, research kahn bahnI never get bored by this stuff. This is part of what I do. BTW if you do a search you'll find more under "Kanban". Here's a 5 second overview:

Kanban: A Japanese term. The actual term means "signal". It is one of the primary tools of JIT system. It signals a cycle of replenishment for production and materials. It maintains an orderly and efficient flow of materials throughout the entire manufacturing process. It is usually a printed card that contains specific information such as part name, description, quantity, etc.

This "signal" is the key to making each production as lean or efficient as possible. Sometimes referred to as "just-in-time" production.

Back on topic: There's so few LGTs around that I've no idea who in San Diego is getting "the look". I'll know soon though.

SBT

[il collaudatore]

If you want to minimize challenges
-keep the car stock looking
-avoid bovs, loud exhausts
-replace your 2.5GT badge with a 2.5i badge
Problem solved.

The civic racers won't bother you and the domestic drivers won't either. I'm not sure that mustang blew threw the stop sign to race you- some people just drive like that normally to impress the motoring public with their bad-ass street thug driving skills.

[Xaqtly]

I don't know, nobody has challenged me yet. Either they don't know what a 2.5 GT is or they don't care.

[Komeng]

A Skyline R34 just smoked me...

:(

He came by too fast for me to shift into Sports mode, else I could tail him, just like I smoked anohter R33 the other night...


*sigh*

[scubie02]

IIRC the Mustang doesn't even have an Indie rear suspension. A lot of hp and big tires does not make for a sophisticated or great car, IMHO. :)


actually, the cobra's do have an IRS.

and I really like the new mustang's. I sometimes wish I had waited for the 05, but really my LGT is more practical for where I live in the snowbelt.

Still, I owned a mustang in college and had it for 9 years. When I got an escort to use as a commutermobile in grad school my dad got the mustang since he had just been laid off and needed a new car. It had just shy of 300k miles on it when he got rid of it...

In general I have not found my foreign cars to be any more reliable than my american cars (mostly Fords). In fact my two most reliable cars were both Ford's--more so than my subies, and way the hell more than my VW was. The foreign cars tend to have wayyyy better trade value though. I think its a leftover misconception to assume a foreign car will be more reliable nowadays though. Look at the newer acura's--there is still a perception that they are mega reliable, but there are more TSB's for the rsx than just about any car I've seen.

[Beanboy]

Get a Legacy GT wagon. I wonder if anybody notices the wagon launching way more quickly then they expect an "Outback" to be.

-B

[jmcgliss]

The issue in this thread is not about the quality of American muscle cars. But I can tell you as a high perf driving instructor with a lot of seat time in various cars - there are quite a few jap and euro wannabee's that fall apart at track events while the SVT products just keep going. Let's not be comparing 1980's American with 2005 LGTs. Why are Subaru and Evo service departments getting so many blown transmissions and motors? Not flaming - just balancing out some rash judgements.

[Drift Monkey]

Or just :raisedead:. That usually scares 'em off with teh quickness! :lol: