Finally got the GT last night...

[inthedeck]

So, after waiting for approx. 6 weeks, I finally dropped off the WRX wagon -- only to pick up the GT Sedan (non-ltd.). Silver. 5MT, STi STS kit, all weather mats, wheel locks, momo shift knob, STi pedals, subwoofer/amp, security upgrade, and the air filtration kit. Also kept the rubber cargo liner from the wagon...so as to keep the trunk clean...and to be able to leave wet umrebllas, etc on the rubber, vs. the carpet.

Took it out for a drive...and it was nice. I am following the same break-in method I did for the WRX...and so far so good. It's hard, but hey, initial care will lead to a lifetime worth of trouble free motoring. Keeping RPM's below 4K, car under 60 MPH, and slipping the clutch (esp. in 1st), etc.

Fits 5 people pretty nicely (with 3 heavier people in the back seat -- who did not complain as they did in the WRX wagon, before this). This mind you, while I was driving in Astoria and parts of Jackson Heights (Queens). Also drove a little stretch of I-678 (VWE) to get to the Whitestone Br. and heard NO complaints -- neither did anyone feel nautious.

The stereo is MUCH better compared to that of the WRX (maybe just cause I don't have the wagon anymore) but the bass is nice and tight (not overpowering, just right, IMHO). Treble is nice...and the midrange is finally a nice addition.

Speed is linear, and doesn't seem to lag (but then again, I am not hitting it hard), the auto climate control was easy to figure out (did not see the need to test the heated seats), and the gauges are all nice. There are multiple settings for the gauges, and it's nice to be able to do that.

The STS is really nice...just a little tricky to use in first gear...but I am sure I will get used to it, and it will break in a little more. Definately feels nice over the stock shifter, etc. The Momo knob is good to feel...but not quite sure if I will keep it on there -- too early to tell.

As for everything else, I am sure I will know more once I drive it a bit more. So far, so good...and can't wait to get home to drive it!! Darn car-pooling to work! Hehe.

Will try to get some pics, when I have a chance to wash it, etc.

later,
i.

[05LegacyGT330Ci]

Congratulations enjoy the car and definately get some pics up here as soon as you can.

[axis008]

Nice! Glad you finally got your car. How does that rubber liner you said you kept fit in the sedan? Did you have to trim it?

[mccorry]

I guess I am alone in waiting now, eh?!?!

[agctr]

That is fantastic news, I sure you will have heaps of fun in the car and would like to see some pics as soon as you find enough time to get out of the drivers seat.

Enjoy.
Adam.

[inthedeck]

thanks gentlemen...(and ladies, if any). The car is nice...just finished washing and waxing it. The claybar is AWESOME and does wonders. The paint on the car feels as smooth as glass -- took me long enough...it better.

As for the cargo liner, axis, I didn't have to trim it. It's a hair small, but that's OK in my book (maybe about 2 inches on each side). It helps to have though...so I am glad the dealer didn't have a hissy fit when I took it out.

And mccorry...another forum member, from NY, llmask, is waiting for his car too -- so don't worry, u are not alone.

Thanks agctr...I am sure to find some time to take some pics (rather dark at this point...and my arms are tired!!) :lol:

Later all, and thanks again.

i.

[Legacy05GT]

Congrats, I'm picking my LGT sedan LTD up in 3 hours!!!!!!

[inthedeck]

Nice, CONGRATS to you too! Hope you enjoy it as much as I am.

Post some pics, when you have a chance!!

Later,
i.

[godwhomismike]

And mccorry...another forum member, from NY, llmask, is waiting for his car too -- so don't worry, u are not alone.
i.

Congrats on the car.

I'm waiting back from a quote from one place before I proceed with placing my deposit. As soon as I get rid of this feeling that I'm being screwed, I'll have my Legacy.

- Mike

[inthedeck]

Congrats on the car.

I'm waiting back from a quote from one place before I proceed with placing my deposit. As soon as I get rid of this feeling that I'm being screwed, I'll have my Legacy.

- Mike

Yeah, I hear ya Mike...the lease just doesn't seem to be cutting it...in terms of the numbers you posted in another thread. Personally, I wouldn't do it...but hey, I hope you get a good deal no matter what.

And thanks,

i.

[DEI99662]

Congrats. :woowoo:

[Ridgeracer]

hey...I think I saw your car this morning on the Hutch in the Bx. It was around 730AM...

[inthedeck]

Ridge...nope, wasn't me. I was still in the shower at that time...hehe.

Must have been another with a silver one.

I usually drive up north, to Purchase...via 95 to 287. I HATE the hutch north at that time in the morning...it's SOOOO SLOWWWW! :evil:

Later,
i.

[llmask]

DAMN IT IM STILL WAITING FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

inthedeck is one lucky SOB - lol

happy for u man, and im going to bug you for pointers on waxin the car.

[inthedeck]

Definately...llmask...

It took a couple of hours, but I used a claybar (with solution) after I washed the car. Then, waxed it, and buffed it. Comes out smooth as silk.

It's a wonder what claybars do...as I have never used them before. But now, I would never go without. It does add a little time to the process...but nothing too crazy.

Later,
and thanks to all,
i.

[gtguy]

Definately...llmask...

It took a couple of hours, but I used a claybar (with solution) after I washed the car. Then, waxed it, and buffed it. Comes out smooth as silk.

It's a wonder what claybars do...as I have never used them before. But now, I would never go without. It does add a little time to the process...but nothing too crazy.

Later,
and thanks to all,
i.

Just don't use the claybar too often, or you can damage your paint. Generally, if you run you hand across the paint after the car has been washed and it feels rough all over the car, clay before waxing. Otherwise, just go ahead and wax.

Kevin

[inthedeck]

Just don't use the claybar too often, or you can damage your paint. Generally, if you run you hand across the paint after the car has been washed and it feels rough all over the car, clay before waxing. Otherwise, just go ahead and wax.

Kevin

Yeah, I figured once every six months or so should do the trick. I figure waxing it every couple of months should keep things nice and smooth. Thanks for the advice, anyhow.

Later,
i.

[Ken S]

Claybars are pretty cool. And it's amazing how much stuff you can remove from your brand new car!

Claying every 6 months sounds a little too often to me. If you wash your car weekly and clean/wax every few months, your claying intervals should be years. But YMMV especially if you live in an area of pine trees, big birds and industrial fallout.

Ken

[inthedeck]

Thanks for the tip. I suppose that I will have to get a 'feel' for when to clay. It's not something that I have been used to, in the past, so the more info. the better.

I know in NY, with all the salt covered roads, I might just do it every spring, when the weather becomes nicer. I do park in a parking lot with lots of trees/birds, but nothing that a little wax wouldn't be able to handle. Also, with all the new roads being built/repaired around the area, I am sure that tar can become pretty tedious to get off with just wax...so, I guess I will wait and see how it pans out.

Thanks again,
i.

[mccorry]

Hey inthedeck, ... got http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/graemlins/pics.gif

:wink:

[inthedeck]

Hey inthedeck, ... got http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/graemlins/pics.gif

:wink:

ACK!! I will go out, and take some now...is there a way that I can post them on the board?

Otherwise, I will have to wait until my brother gets home, so that I can post them on his site.

Later,
i.

[axis008]

You can use the Add Attachment feature. There is a file size limit though, I think around 160KB if I remember correctly.

[inthedeck]

will take some better pictures later... but you can see the new car here...

www.keil.dontexist.com

later,
i.

[gt_ltd]

didn't know there is a trunkmat for the Legacy... :oops: how much does one cost?

[inthedeck]

gt_ltd....that's one of the things that I kept from the WRX wagon that I traded in. It's not a 'part' that you can buy for the legacy...but hey, feel free to buy a rubber cargo mat for the WRX wagon, and walaa...it fits.

And, apologies for the quality of the pictures...I just took some real quick, before heading out with the gf. I will take some better ones this weekend...to possibly enter into the 'contest' thread.

Later,
i.

[Ridgeracer]

DAMN IT IM STILL WAITING FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

inthedeck is one lucky SOB - lol

happy for u man, and im going to bug you for pointers on waxin the car.

How "special" a special order did you get..? Most dealers keep saying that they can get the car within 2-3 days. Is it a Ltd. package with a color outside of black or silver with AT.?

[Ridgeracer]

Ridge...nope, wasn't me. I was still in the shower at that time...hehe.

Must have been another with a silver one.

I usually drive up north, to Purchase...via 95 to 287. I HATE the hutch north at that time in the morning...it's SOOOO SLOWWWW! :evil:

Later,
i.

It was really early for me too. I was headed up to Bridgeport. Come to think of it, im not even sure if it was even a GT or GT LTD....

[shipjumper]

Took it out for a drive...and it was nice. I am following the same break-in method I did for the WRX...and so far so good. It's hard, but hey, initial care will lead to a lifetime worth of trouble free motoring. Keeping RPM's below 4K, car under 60 MPH, and slipping the clutch (esp. in 1st), etc.



I don't get it.... I have built about 5 subaru engines and rebuilt my fathers race bike engine about 10 times. I understand how some people still believe a break in period still exists for cars built today. To each their own. But I just re-read the owners manual again, says NOTHING about keeping it under 60mph. I dont understand this concept.

I subscribe to this forum: www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm and I has worked great for everything I have done. Now in all seriousness, break in your motor to what you believe, thats fine. Im not here to discuss that. Please someone tell me why, oh why would you keep the car under 60mph for the first 500-1000 miles? its unsafe and makes NOOOOO sense. :roll:

[GTCanada]

True. Engine break-in, if you subscribe to the need for one, would be based on RPM and not related to vehicle speed.

Tom

[inthedeck]

Please someone tell me why, oh why would you keep the car under 60mph for the first 500-1000 miles? its unsafe and makes NOOOOO sense. :roll:

Why would you say that it is unsafe? I personally did the same thing with my WRX, and never had any issues with that? It's only 1000 miles anyway...and I was just attempting to 'follow' the speed limits in NY for once. Max is 55...so I think going 60 isn't TOO bad. I have varied my speed a bit btwn 55 - 65 mph.

Anyway, to each their own with the break in. Now that I am passed the 300 mile mark, I can start the 'next' level of break in, which is to push it a little more in the lower end of the RPM band.

Has worked for me, and I am alright with that.

Later,
i

[shipjumper]

two reasons, unsafe for all the other drivers doing 10-15mph faster than you, and two, what if you need to get out of the way of something? then is it all blown away?


all the manual says is light accelleration within 1000 miles.

I see nowhere about under 60mph. and what is the reasoning behind it? to wear in bearings? have you ever seen bearings? the are perfect speherical or cylinderical depending on the type. nothing to break in there. thats the onely thing that could change with speed... speed and RPMs are always different with different gears. so where oh where does speed (MPH) work into a break in cycle?

[inthedeck]

two reasons, unsafe for all the other drivers doing 10-15mph faster than you, and two, what if you need to get out of the way of something? then is it all blown away?


all the manual says is light accelleration within 1000 miles.

I see nowhere about under 60mph. and what is the reasoning behind it? to wear in bearings? have you ever seen bearings? the are perfect speherical or cylinderical depending on the type. nothing to break in there. thats the onely thing that could change with speed... speed and RPMs are always different with different gears. so where oh where does speed (MPH) work into a break in cycle?

As for safety, they should slow down. Anyway, I drive in the right lane, and vary the MPH while driving. I am not saying people should/should not keep it at or around 60 MPH. That's just my choice, and what I have done with all the new cars that I have owned. I owned a Dodge Stratus ES ('95) with a 5 speed, broke it in the same way, and it lasted me 136000 miles. Hence, I don't see where your argument is going to convince me otherwise.

As for getting out of the way...I have run into the situation of having to do that...with stupid people who don't know how to 'yield' correctly when entering the NYS highway system. For that, I have the 5MT, and have dropped down a gear to 'kick it up a notch.' NO problem to me...just wish that stupid drivers would learn!!! :roll:

Oh well, like I said, to each their own. I will go about it as I will. I am sure the car will be fine.

Later,
i

[shipjumper]

still does not answer my question. why keep it under 60mph? where did you learn this, who told it to you, where was it learned and WHY is it done???

[inthedeck]

Why not keep it under 60MPH? What's wrong with doing that, besides what you mentioned earlier? I see no harm in it...and it doesn't heat everything up to the 'extremes' during early break-in.

It's something that I learned from my father, as he is always wanting to keep cars under 60 MPH for their first few thousand. I have followed, to the extent that I keep it under 60MPH for the first thousand. Then, gradually start raising the speed where I see fit. I mean, what's wrong with following the speed limit?

Maybe Drift Monkey can chime in here, and explain why he also kept it under 60 MPH during break-in, in Texas, nonetheless...where according to him traffic is fairly heavy as well.

Oh well..I hope it answers some of your questions...

i.

[inthedeck]

Here's Drift Monkeys' thread...yes, there are different people with different ways. I just choose to run my own path.

http://www.legacysti.com/viewtopic.php?t=2201&highlight=

later,
i

[shipjumper]

theres no harm in doing it, but theres no reason to. theres still no answer to why people do this on that other thread.

you have no info or evidence why this is a good idea / practice!

someone tell me why its NEEDED to keep it under 60mph?!?!?!

everyones answers are "cause i was told" or "my father did this"

engines have changed, what data supports keeping it under 60? the manual dosent... sounds like an "old wives tale to me" some one tell me!

it really raises the BS flag to me...

[Deer Killer]

It takes ~30 hp to go 60mph. If you think your engine shouldn't put out that much power during break in.. well......

Not to mention every car has different gearing so 60mph means nothing.

[inthedeck]

Like I said...it's what I choose to do. Maybe there is no empirical data that supports this...but again, what difference does it make? Again, I am STILL following the speed limits, aren't I? At least for 'break-in' that is. Maybe you don't like to do that...hey, that's your chioce. I never said there was anything wrong with people going 80-90 MPH in their cars, before it's broken in, but what harm is done keeping it under 60?

The rest of the time, I shift at about 4K rpm, and use the gears to do so -- both up and down. I see nothing wrong with this...and I don't feel the 'stutter' that people are speaking about. I am teaching the computer what I like to do...and that's how it will learn. Once the 1K mark hits, it will 'know' what I like to do, down low, so the top end will then begin to learn at that point. It's only a matter of time, till it starts learning the potential of the top end.

Later,
i.