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Whirling Dervish
09-29-2005, 08:44 AM
Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B sedan

We are proud to announce for the first time in America, the Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B. Production

will be limited to just 500 units nationwide and each car will display an individually numbered

limited edition plaque on the center console. Standard features include:

• Exclusive Titanium Silver Metallic exterior color

• Striking Brick Red leather-trimmed interior

• Aerodynamic side ground effects with chrome trim

• 18-inch, 10-spoke aluminum-alloy wheels with 215/45 WR18 Y-rated summer

performance tires

• Bilstein sport-tuned suspension with inverted front struts, aluminum-alloy front control

arms, and aluminum-alloy rear arms and upper links

• 7-inch Touch-Screen GPS Navigation System

• Upgraded audio system with MP3 capability

• Momo brand leather-wrapped steering wheel with integrated audio controls

• Aluminum-alloy pedal covers including footrest

• Unique spec.B floor mats

The Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B will feature a 250-horsepower turbocharged and intercooled BOXER

engine, and will only be available with a 5-speed manual transmission. MSRP for this model

is $33,995.

*Jedimaster*
09-29-2005, 09:39 AM
There's a guy on Nasicock whose dealership is selling theirs for 40K :lol:

Any asshole stupid enough to pay 7K more than an already overpriced (for what's included) car deserves to be laughed at :lol:

jim1969
09-29-2005, 09:41 AM
See Ya! :lol:

rao
09-29-2005, 09:46 AM
Good f-ing luck at $34k :eek:

kanoswrx
09-29-2005, 09:50 AM
Let see, base 2.5GT ~ 27k. Add Nav ~2k, Wheels ~1k, Suspension ~1k, Aluminum bits ~1k, other extras ~1k. Can sort of see how they got that price, but really I think the MSRP should have been around 32k.

gt_ltd
09-29-2005, 09:56 AM
i am very sure they will sell.

rallispec
09-29-2005, 10:11 AM
i'm sure' people would buy them. 34k for all that isnt that bad.... Considering the regular legacy is a pretty good bargain based on what you get for the price - I can understand $34k for the spec b. That puts it more in line with a loaded G35x, or maybe TL or other luxury cars. ANd you get the added benifet of even more uniquness among an already unique car.


to rich for my blood though.

franklin
09-29-2005, 10:12 AM
The Nav. system adds $2,000 alone. I cant fathom how people find this a thing they will pay 2k for??? $500 maybe $2,000 = your nuts. Use MapQuest for free.

rao
09-29-2005, 10:12 AM
They can price it at $100,000 if it makes them feel better. Time will tell what the actual transaction prices are.

*Jedimaster*
09-29-2005, 10:16 AM
At only 500 offered, they'll sell. Even marked up, they will- there's an ass for every seat as they say. Except for number 005. Mike already farted in that one :lol:

OCDetails
09-29-2005, 10:44 AM
All that and thin paint, bad navi maps, a stuttering engine, and mysterious rattles to boot. What a deal!!! Sign me up!

I wonder what the insurance is going to be on this car. Limited edition means more expensive to replace. Once they are out of the 500 (which I am surprised they aren't already) you won't be able to replace it. Or maybe you will... People do stupid things. Someone is going to buy one of these cars and then 6 months from now get bored with it and trade it in for something else. Who cares about how much money they lose in the deal. Some people are morons when it comes to money.

rallispec
09-29-2005, 11:47 AM
All that and thin paint, bad navi maps, a stuttering engine, and mysterious rattles to boot. What a deal!!! Sign me up!

I wonder what the insurance is going to be on this car. Limited edition means more expensive to replace. Once they are out of the 500 (which I am surprised they aren't already) you won't be able to replace it. Or maybe you will... People do stupid things. Someone is going to buy one of these cars and then 6 months from now get bored with it and trade it in for something else. Who cares about how much money they lose in the deal. Some people are morons when it comes to money.


seeing as how all but a few parts are just regular LGT peices, including all of the body work - I don't see it beeing that bad to get replacement parts.

gt_ltd
09-29-2005, 01:22 PM
how long do u think it will take until they are all gone? winter is coming but they all come with summer tires. :rolleyes:

Whirling Dervish
09-29-2005, 03:32 PM
Can't imagine it would take long. Someone with money to burn/waste will get it. Only thing I want on the car is the suspension.

I mean, they couldn't even spring for Z-rated tires. What a ripoff.

OCDetails
09-29-2005, 04:00 PM
Assuming they are going to stick with Bridgestone for their tires, the 245/45WR18 RE050A (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE050A&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=445WR8RE050ARFT&fromCompare1=yes&place=4) runs about $270 per tire. Sucks to be you if you pop one of them. It's a 'runs flat' tire, but you'd still have to replace it if it blew out. I do find it interesting they are putting this on a car right before winter arrives. Seems like a very poor choice indeed. You should put all weather tires on a car when you put it on the lot. Putting a season specific tire on is just really mean. After spending this much money on the car I wouldn't expect to have to pay another thousand dollars to put tires on it.


The Potenza RE050A was developed to provide good traction along with responsive and predictable dry and wet road handling. It is not intended to be driven in the snow.

IwannaSportSedan
09-30-2005, 12:21 AM
As I mentioned when Tide previously nailed the price right on... I'm out.

With the price of other Legacys, and my underwhelmed response to the paint color and lack of power increase... A 2005 Legacy GT + mods makes much more sense to me.

on the other hand, I do hope that the Spec B does well with others who aren't as focused on the nit-picks of the equipment offering, and have more disposable income.

I hope it helps Subaru get back on the right track with the Legacy, as the 2006 option lineup is a step backwards from the '05.

keith05legacyGT
09-30-2005, 07:37 AM
Well let the flaming begin :) I will be getting a Spec B in the next few weeks (they say mid October), trading in my black/black 05 GT Limited. My reasons? Many.

The wheels and tires (SSR Competitions with Pole Positions) will transfer right over. Cobb is checking whether my AccessPort will switch over, if not I already have a buyer. So no money I put into mods for the car is lost. The next thing I wanted to tackle on my 05 was the suspension. They have already begun to address it.

I want a nav with a 5 speed for the next time I am driving and want a Bob Evans. I also like "unique" versions of cars. There is enough in the car to differentiate it from other GT Limited's out there without ricing it or spending alot of time doing it. I don't have the luxury of having days to mod my cars anymore since I am always on the road.

I am looking forward to it, as are most of the other Subaru owners in my area. Only four Spec B's are coming to this area, two to my dealer--both are already claimed. I am paying MSRP (no markup) and have already put down a deposit.

These cars are targeted to a very narrow demographic. Good or Bad that demographic is me and I am happy about it.

Can't wait to get it :lol:

rallispec
09-30-2005, 08:02 AM
Well let the flaming begin :) I will be getting a Spec B in the next few weeks (they say mid October), trading in my black/black 05 GT Limited. My reasons? Many.

The wheels and tires (SSR Competitions with Pole Positions) will transfer right over. Cobb is checking whether my AccessPort will switch over, if not I already have a buyer. So no money I put into mods for the car is lost. The next thing I wanted to tackle on my 05 was the suspension. They have already begun to address it.

I want a nav with a 5 speed for the next time I am driving and want a Bob Evans. I also like "unique" versions of cars. There is enough in the car to differentiate it from other GT Limited's out there without ricing it or spending alot of time doing it. I don't have the luxury of having days to mod my cars anymore since I am always on the road.

I am looking forward to it, as are most of the other Subaru owners in my area. Only four Spec B's are coming to this area, two to my dealer--both are already claimed. I am paying MSRP (no markup) and have already put down a deposit.

These cars are targeted to a very narrow demographic. Good or Bad that demographic is me and I am happy about it.

Can't wait to get it :lol:


awesome, i can't wait to hear your impressions on it when it arrives

yamie700
09-30-2005, 08:07 AM
I just hope that all 500 sell quickly and maybe subaru will realize there is a market for an STi legacy.

Since you are putting on the SSRs will you be selling the spec B wheels? I wonder how much the speedo will be off as the tires have a different diameter than a regular legacy.

vet
09-30-2005, 08:23 AM
34K is not totally unreasonable, problem is you can get around 4k off the price of a regular GT but will have to pay sticker for the spec B. That makes the difference around 8k and there's no way its worth that much more to me. I'd take 5k in mods, put 3k in the bank and have a better car than the spec B.

keith05legacyGT
09-30-2005, 08:35 AM
Sorry but keeping the Spec B wheels ;) Not sure which ones I am will run the winter tires on yet. My other option is to sell the car outright with the SSR's and then keep my stock 17"s for snow tires and the Spec B for summer. Those Pole Positions are sweet though. Decisions Decisions.

Right now, With the 18" I am the speedo is off by 1 MPH at 60. When it says 60 I am doing 61. I would hope they recalibrate it for the larger wheels since they come stock. It also throws off the trip and mileage computer.

I too was hoping for a Legacy STI. One thing I think they should of changed on the SpecB would either be add the 6 speed or at least include the short throw. That was one of the first things I did to my 05 and will need to do again.

Whirling Dervish
09-30-2005, 09:20 AM
Good for you, Keith. From everything I've heard, everyone who's seen the Spec.B in person says it's a great looking car. Good luck with it and let us know how you like the upgrades (suspension, etc.).

Cstoop
09-30-2005, 10:11 AM
Did they happen to tell you which # out of 500 you would be getting when you put your deposit down? It's prob just a luck of the draw thing, but it would be cool to see where all the numbers end up through out the country.
ps.
I put in a request & ended up with a WRX with a pretty unique number. :)

keith05legacyGT
09-30-2005, 10:38 AM
I do not know the number, but will stop by tonight to see if they have them. From what I saw while there Tuesday (a friend was buying herself a 2005 Outback Sport SE) the cars are already allocated and enroute so I don't think I can request a number this late in the game.

rao
09-30-2005, 03:34 PM
Well let the flaming begin :) I will be getting a Spec B in the next few weeks (they say mid October), trading in my black/black 05 GT Limited. My reasons? Many.

The wheels and tires (SSR Competitions with Pole Positions) will transfer right over. Cobb is checking whether my AccessPort will switch over, if not I already have a buyer. So no money I put into mods for the car is lost. The next thing I wanted to tackle on my 05 was the suspension. They have already begun to address it.

I want a nav with a 5 speed for the next time I am driving and want a Bob Evans. I also like "unique" versions of cars. There is enough in the car to differentiate it from other GT Limited's out there without ricing it or spending alot of time doing it. I don't have the luxury of having days to mod my cars anymore since I am always on the road.

I am looking forward to it, as are most of the other Subaru owners in my area. Only four Spec B's are coming to this area, two to my dealer--both are already claimed. I am paying MSRP (no markup) and have already put down a deposit.

These cars are targeted to a very narrow demographic. Good or Bad that demographic is me and I am happy about it.

Can't wait to get it :lol:

Congratulations! There is nothing wrong with buying something you like.

DeepFreeze2
09-30-2005, 03:47 PM
Congratulations! There is nothing wrong with buying something you like.+1. There is a price to be paid for exclusiveness (usually). With that said, if you like it, get it and enjoy it. No bashing/flaming from me.:D

BDII
09-30-2005, 03:51 PM
I wonder what the insurance is going to be on this car. Limited edition means more expensive to replace. .

NOt true. i had a Mazda Speed Protege, only 2000 made, my insurance was cheap!!

mmanus88
09-30-2005, 03:53 PM
keith, i will be the first to give a bit of a negative opinion. you are entitled to buy what u like, and trust me, i do just the same. but that is not without research. the nav system is shit, u wouldve been better off with a more functional and less expensive AVIC-n2. as mentioned before, everything the spec B has can be added, just order parts and put your car in the shop for a few days. you're buying an 05 car then swapping it in the same year boggles my mind enough, even moreso because they are the same car, one with a bit more glitz than the other.

again, you can spend your money any which way you want, but i personally think that swapping an 05 legacy for what is basically another 05 legacy is a bit excessive. but hey, i'm sure i've done stupid shit like that before (just not with 30+ grand :)).

anyways have fun with the spec B, post pics!

GardenWeasel
09-30-2005, 07:13 PM
Let see, base 2.5GT ~ 27k. Add Nav ~2k, Wheels ~1k, Suspension ~1k, Aluminum bits ~1k, other extras ~1k. Can sort of see how they got that price, but really I think the MSRP should have been around 32k.

It must be the special "1978 Dodge Aspen-Red" seats.

blacky
10-02-2005, 11:13 PM
if MSPR will be around 34K then U might get 3K-4k off that price, if they want to neg.. That kind of a diffrience from a MSPR I got Exact Year ago for a 2005 STi, in the end I went with LGT anyway- reason: more luxury and better look for a less :D

*Jedimaster*
10-03-2005, 06:00 AM
A friend of mine just announced on COTJ that his dad is getting a Spec B. He expects it to be at or a little below MSRP.

keith05legacyGT
10-03-2005, 08:20 AM
Mmanus, negative comments are just as welcome as positive :) I got my 05 GT limited in August 2004. It now has 20k on it. It is because of how much I like the 05 that I would even consider the Spec B. That and the fact that all of my Subarus have been rock solid cars. You are right, the nav is not the best but it is integral and fits the car, unlike an after market purchase. I am sure it will serve its purpose (GeeWhiz factor) fine. Hell, someday I may not be able to do stuff like this so I may as well now ;)

Besides, it is people doing crazy stuff like this that may get us a real Legacy STI equivalent or at least a true performance version. Hopefully these are such a hit in a year or two Subaru may say "hey what would happen if we retune the 2.5 and add a tranny and AWD like the STI---think it will sell?" If that were to ever happen, I would be one of the first to put down a deposit on that also. If not, I still have the "exclusive" version of what I think is already a great car. Pipe dream? Maybe, but we can always dream.

No idea on what number (the dealer didn't have them), but they are saying Mid-October....firm. As soon as I get it I will post pics of course, unless someone beats me too it.

IwannaSportSedan
10-03-2005, 09:18 AM
Keith,

is your Black/Black GT Limited a 5MT?

I'd rather have that one! I'd take you up on the offer of buying the car outright (even with the SSRs.) But I am not sure if the finances will be ready for that (only two weeks, I think I am still looking at a few months... at the inside, so it may not work... Plus I have no idea how far away you are.

I'd put the suspension bits, and the red interior in your black car rather than spending the extra almost ~15k on the spec B.

Believe me, after looking all over northeast Iowa, there aren't a lot of Legacys to be found. A pair of GRP GT sedans, one limited, one not, both 5EATs, a non-limited silver wagon 5EAT, and a RBP/Taupe 06 Limited sedan 5EAT.

That is all, from Cedar Rapids, Dubuque, and Waterloo, IA. They had many more 2.5i/3.0 Outbacks, and a couple of XTs, but I don't remember them as clearly, since that isn't what I am looking for.

Actually Dubuque didn't have any new Legacys. (05s were in Cedar Rapids, 06 in Waterloo) they had an 04, but that is not turbocharged, nor manual trans, and isn't as good looking.

I did however see a Regal Blue LGT with a spoiler driving around on the surface streets in downtown Dubuque, near the riverfront on Sunday about 11:30am, as we were looking around on our way home... Anybody on the forum?

Haven't been to Des Moines in a couple weeks, but all they had was an 06 RBP/Taupe 5EAT sedan, as well, last time I was there.

And driving almost 500 miles in the miata, and trying to pack a suitcase and antiques in there... I think my wife is more ready for a slightly more accomidating car now than when we left on friday... just have to get the existing loan on the Miata paid off, so that we can be down to one payment after trading/selling the truck.

keith05legacyGT
10-03-2005, 10:12 AM
Aye, Black/Black GT Limited 5-speed with no rear spoiler. The dealer had a real hard time locating that one. Looks very sleek and stealth with anthracite SSRs. Only real problem with black on black is keeping it clean. Yeah, those seats would look sweet in my car.

IwannaSportSedan
10-03-2005, 03:27 PM
5MT AND No Spoiler, too... damn don't tempt me like that.

You're gonna make me want to buy your car to do this:
http://www.emotion-fuk.com/shop057.jpg

and then most of this:
http://www.emotion-fuk.com/hyper0021.jpg

And then the rest of this:
http://www.emotion-fuk.com/index.htm -> click on the "Shop Car" button along the side. (it's in Japanese, but shows alot of the mods to the pictured car.)

With that car, it is "Spec B, schmeck-B..." On second thought, perhaps not. I think that car started out as a JDM 2.0 GT Spec B, itself... Not that there is much left to be able to tell.

Even if I can't yet buy it, you should offer your GT for sale on this site first, because a "hard to find" car like that should go to someone who will appreciate it, like the members here. You'll probably get more for a private sale than a wholesale trade-in offer.

gt_ltd
10-03-2005, 04:56 PM
^ sexy

BDII
10-03-2005, 05:08 PM
^^^^ i'd drive it

rfd425
10-03-2005, 08:24 PM
There's a guy on Nasicock whose dealership is listing theirs for 40K :lol:

Fixed.

IwannaSportSedan
10-04-2005, 07:37 PM
40k.

Yeah. That'll happen... It's this kind of crap that will can the sales of the Spec B, and prevent further performance models...

Stupid...

legandrex
10-05-2005, 05:20 PM
What kind of wheels are on the pic of the black car? Those are the best I have seen on a GT

BDII
10-05-2005, 05:22 PM
What kind of wheels are on the pic of the black car? Those are the best I have seen on a GT
+1 anyone?

IwannaSportSedan
10-05-2005, 08:29 PM
Prodrive GC10. Supposedly for USA only, even though the car I posted before was a Japanese Tuner's in-house demo car.

http://www.prodrive.com/pagefiles/GC10.jpg

gfxdave99
10-05-2005, 11:54 PM
Msrp rising?
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107492#3

Subaru Announces Spec.B Pricing

Date Posted 10-05-2005

CHERRY HILL, N.J. — Subaru said its high performance version of the Subaru Legacy (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/ViewModelDetail/make=Subaru/model=Legacy), the 2006 2.5 GT spec. B, will be priced at $34,620 and include features tailored for the American market, including a standard navigation system, upgraded sound system, Bilstein shocks and a custom interior.

The spec.B is on sale this month. The all-wheel-drive car is equipped with a 2.5-liter, intercooled, turbo Boxer engine that produces 250 horsepower and 250 pound-feet of torque. It is mated to a five-speed manual transmission.

The U.S. model comes in an exclusive titanium-silver metallic exterior paint. The spec.B has ground-effects moldings with chrome trim; 18-inch, 10-spoke alloy wheels; and low-profile performance tires.

What this means to you: If you're way into the Subaru Legacy this is the most desirable version yet.

rfd425
10-06-2005, 12:30 AM
^^^^Maybe that just includes the "delivery charge" or whatever.

BrownBoy
10-06-2005, 07:42 PM
$33,995 + $625 Destination fee = $34,620!

So. How many of you are buying it? Let's get a head count. There's that one "woman" who posted another thread, and the guy who posted in this thread I believe. Just 2? Where are the 498 others? I wonder who, if anyone, is gonna get stuck w/ the one that was at the little drive thingy that godwhoismike went to...:lol:

gfxdave99
10-06-2005, 11:55 PM
I am going to go ahead a predict one being sold on ebay to the higest bidder.

IwannaSportSedan
10-07-2005, 12:57 AM
if the other 498 sit on lots long enough and sell below $30k, and the 07s look to be complete rubbish, I'll consider it.

However, I hope that doesn't happen for the sake that SOA figures out that there is a sport sedan market for this car, despite them not offering much more for the extra ~4k MSRP outlay.

I hope they get purchased, and quickly enough to make SOA take notice, and make "Spec B" into the sport suspension option package that it should have always been.

gfxdave99
10-07-2005, 12:58 AM
if the other 498 sit on lots long enough and sell below $30k, and the 07s look to be complete rubbish, I'll consider it.

However, I hope that doesn't happen for the sake that SOA figures out that there is a sport sedan market for this car, despite them not offering much more for the extra ~4k MSRP outlay.

I hope they get purchased, and quickly enough to make SOA take notice, and make "Spec B" into the sport suspension option package that it should have always been.

The 07's looking like rubbish is a given :)

peterjmc
10-15-2005, 07:01 PM
If anyone is interested Fitzgerald Auto Mall has a Spec B at their Gaithersburg location. I called and they quoted me 32,xxxx including destination/frieght for the Spec B. I am actually shopping for a Legacy GT right now, but the Spec B is just out of my price limit.

http://www.fitzmall.com/

GAITHERSBURG
1-888-714-7493

rfd425
10-15-2005, 07:53 PM
I saw a Spec B today while looking at cars for my wife. This particular dealer said they are going to try to get full sticker, which on this car was $36K. Options included short-shifter and spoiler that I can remember, but there must have been other stuff.

RacingFish
10-23-2005, 02:33 AM
a lot of dealerships havent even recieved their spec b's yet. but expect full sticker. i hear most dealerships arent even letting fools test drive it.. i dont blame em tho. dealers get a lot of lookie loos.. lots of wasted time on people with no intention of even thinking about buy cars.

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km580
10-23-2005, 07:49 AM
There are 2 Spec B's on Ebay. They are both in the upper $30,000 range and no bids yet.

nasiocks
10-27-2005, 10:31 AM
I saw one today at the dealer and it was sold. #20/500. Pretty nice.