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It's official (thanks melayout).
SUBARU TO OFFER LIMITED EDITION 2006 LEGACY 2.5 GT spec.B MODEL
New spec.B limited to 500 numbered units
First time offered in the United States
Navigation system standard
CHERRY HILL, N.J., September 20, 2005 -- Subaru of America, Inc. has introduced the Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B performance sedan and will offer just 500 of these special cars for model year 2006. Previously only offered in Japan and Europe, the U.S. version of the spec.B pairs the performance of the 250-horsepower intercooled turbo Boxer engine in the Legacy 2.5 GT Limited Sedan, with exclusive suspension enhancements along with unique design elements and interior features. The Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B, the newest offering from America’s All-Wheel Drive leader, stands as the ultimate Subaru Legacy.
The Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B is available exclusively with a 5-speed manual transmission and, like all Subaru models, features Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive as standard equipment. Like the Subaru Impreza® WRX® and WRX STI® models, the Legacy spec.B built a loyal following in Japan and Europe before coming to the United States. As it did with the WRX and WRX STI models, Subaru designed a version of the Legacy spec.B specially tailored for U.S. customers.
The Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B is quickly identified by its exclusive Titanium Silver Metallic exterior color and aerodynamic side ground-effects moldings with chrome trim. The road-hugging stance of the spec.B is further accentuated by unique 18-inch 10-spoke alloy wheels and 215/45 low profile performance tires that work with the suspension upgrades to deliver improved handling performance. (The standard 2.5 GT Limited Sedan features 17-inch alloy wheels.)
MORE THAN JUST A PRETTY FACE
The taut suspension of the Legacy 2.5 GT Limited has been thoroughly revised for even sharper response and greater road feel in the Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B. The exclusive Bilstein Sport Suspension equips the Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B model with performance-tuned shock absorbers for flatter cornering response.
Subaru engineers also replaced the MacPherson strut front suspension with an inverted strut configuration similar to that in the rally-bred Impreza WRX STI, including aluminum-alloy lower control arms. The multi-link rear suspension gains aluminum-alloy rear arms and upper links in place of cast-iron pieces to reduce unsprung weight (and thereby enhance handling response). Finally, the 18-inch alloy wheels are fitted with 215/45 R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A summer performance tires.
EXCLUSIVE spec. B INTERIOR
The striking Brick Red leather trimmed upholstery highlights the unique interior styling of the Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B. The distinctive interior is further differentiated from the 2.5 GT Limited model by aluminum-alloy pedal covers, a 3-spoke MOMO® leather-wrapped steering wheel with integrated audio controls, “spec.B” floor mats and an individually numbered limited-edition plaque.
The Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B further builds on the generous standard equipment of the 2.5 GT Limited Sedan, adding the new Subaru Navigation System and an upgraded audio system with MP3 capability. Standard features shared with the 2.5 GT Limited Sedan include dual-zone automatic climate control, performance-design front seats, power moonroof, an 8-way power driver’s seat and a 4-way power passenger seat (both with 4-stage heating) and heated exterior mirrors. All Legacy models for 2006 feature, as standard equipment, Subaru Advanced Frontal Air Bag System, front seat side impact air bags, active front seat head restraints and side curtain air bags.
BIG POWER, CONFIDENT CONTROL
The 2.5-liter intercooled turbo Boxer engine in the spec.B produces 250 horsepower @ 5,600 rpm and 250 lb.-ft. of peak torque @ 3,600 rpm. Putting the power down is the Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive which, when teamed with a 5-speed manual transmission as in the Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B, employs a viscous-coupling locking center differential with a 50:50 torque split. Slippage at the front or rear wheels will transfer more power to the opposite set.
A 4-wheel disc Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) is standard on all Legacy models. The 2.5 GT Limited and 2.5 GT spec.B models employ larger brake rotors than other Legacy models, with ventilated rear discs in place of solid discs.
About Subaru of America, Inc.
Subaru of America, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. of Japan. Headquartered in Cherry Hill, N.J., the company markets and distributes Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive vehicles, parts and accessories through a network of nearly 600 dealers across the United States. Subaru makes the best-selling All-Wheel Drive car sold in America based on R.L. Polk & Co. new vehicle retail registration statistics calendar year-end 2004. For additional information visit www.subaru.com.
2006 Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B
Basic Specifications
Engine 2.5-liter 4-cylinder intercooled/turbocharged Boxer
250 horsepower @ 5,600 rpm / 250 lb.-ft. of peak torque @ 3,600 rpm.
Transmission 5-speed manual
All-Wheel Drive Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive using viscous-coupling locking center differential with 50:50 torque split
Suspension 4-wheel independent, Bilstein Sport Suspension, aluminum-alloy front control arms and aluminum-alloy rear arms and upper links
Wheels and tires 18 x 7-in. aluminum-alloy wheels with 215/45 R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A summer performance tires
Brakes 4-wheel disc Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD); 12.3-in. front ventilated discs and 11.3-in. rear ventilated discs
Wheelbase 105.1 in.
Length 186.2 in.
Height 56.5 in.
Curb weight 3,400 lbs.
inthedeck
09-20-2005, 01:39 PM
still no pricing announced? I assume?
melayout
09-20-2005, 01:43 PM
still no pricing announced? I assume?
Easy,
MSRP = Curb Weight x 10 :mad:
gfxdave99
09-20-2005, 01:43 PM
Ohhh so they can manage to put the nav system in a manual transmisison car if its a spec b.. i see how it is.. ;)
Hopefully it will add some cool parts to the SOA parts catalog for us extended warranty werry types.. :)
Shag-e
09-20-2005, 01:48 PM
Hopefully it will add some cool parts to the SOA parts catalog for us extended warranty werry types.. :)
Yeah it sure does----> aluminum-alloy front control arms and aluminum-alloy rear arms and upper links
BOXRPWR
09-20-2005, 01:51 PM
I was tempted by those new aluminum suspension parts too. Hope they can be purchased thru a Subaru dealer. Need to find out if they are "bolt-on" replacements with the same mounting geometry. Or if the new inverted front strut design on the SpecB makes them unique to it.
I was tempted by those new aluminum suspension parts too. Hope they can be purchased thru a Subaru dealer. Need to find out if they are "bolt-on" replacements with the same mounting geometry. Or if the new inverted front strut design on the SpecB makes them unique to it.
Might have to weld on some new metal and drill some new holes. I'm speculating though....
I haven't seen any pricing yet and I have emails out to a few dealers and all say the same thing. They have been alloted, they will be on the lot in 2-4 weeks, and no MSRP has been set. I haven't found out if they know what dealer invoice is yet though and most dealers only seem to be getting 1 each if at all.
inthedeck
09-20-2005, 02:28 PM
I know it's supposed to be exclusive, and all, but man, this limited run crap really sucks. Just another way for dealers to make some extra cash...and mind u, u know they will! Forget about invoice...especially with 500 individually numbered cars.
I hope the dealers that get them aren't allowed to 'drive' them, etc. cause I would hate to buy an ultra-new, ultra rare car with miles on it...beyond the typical 5-8 miles on a new car. And you know how dealers are!!! 'Oh, I just HAD to see what this BABY can DO!'
Hopefully it will add some cool parts to the SOA parts catalog for us extended warranty werry types.. :)
Aluminum bits...
larger rear sway bar
Bilstein Suspension
Spec-B wheels
and more I'm sure...
Might have to weld on some new metal and drill some new holes. I'm speculating though....
nah...the JDM Bilsteins from the Spec B are bolt-in, so that's not a worry.
psucaptainkickass
09-20-2005, 02:50 PM
Hmm...my car weighs 100 lbs less....and is no longer offered...I scoff at the "rare" spec.B
Rommel
09-20-2005, 03:24 PM
I talked to an internet sales manager and he told me that the price will be around $33k - $34K. You can count on dealer mark up since this will be a limited edition :mad: and again no wagon :(
Kevin@SoD
09-20-2005, 03:34 PM
I have pricing information everyone!
Subaru of Dallas has two coming at the end of October... and no, they wont be driven.
One is a no option, Titanium Silver (only color available) Spec B for $34,620 (incl. destination).
The other one we have coming is equipped with Security System Upgrade, Wheel Locks, and STi Short Thro Shifter. MSRP is 35,157.
If you are serious about purchasing one of these vehicles I recommend calling me or emailing me ASAP!!!
-Kevin Heist
Subaru of Dallas
kheist@subaruofdallas.com
469-688-2222
dgags31
09-20-2005, 03:34 PM
I'm sure most have seen this from Edmunds....
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=106823?tid=edmunds.h..insideline.promo.2 .*
melayout
09-20-2005, 03:39 PM
Kevin,
It's probably better if you start a new thread in a more visible sub-forum and have the mods sticky it.
Btw, is the price up for negotation or will it be MSRP++?
wukindada
09-20-2005, 04:03 PM
34 - 35k....will not be driven....call ASAP...sounds like a market adjustment is in the mix:lol:
No market adjustment from Kevin's quote from what I see ($33,995 +$625 destination), he listed MSRP and it is the pricing I've heard from other dealers.
Will some dealers charge over MSRP, sure and thats their right. But there is no reason that if you want one right now that you can't find it for MSRP.
Kevin@SoD
09-20-2005, 04:49 PM
Kevin,
It's probably better if you start a new thread in a more visible sub-forum and have the mods sticky it.
Btw, is the price up for negotation or will it be MSRP++?
I through in exact pricing info to this thread since no one had an answer. I took the opportunity to offer my services.
Also, I highly doubt a vehicle that only 500 of which will be made will have any point of negotation. Pretty much sticker or someone else can get it. ;)
OR you can negotiate down to MSRP, if you encounter a dealer charging more than sticker... but I'm sure they will have the same mentality that someone will buy it for what they ask ;)
BatChips107
09-20-2005, 05:07 PM
not fair.. my LGT handles like garbage... i want the new one!
Mui01
09-20-2005, 07:18 PM
Very nice, can the Bilstein fit in the LGT Wagon?
Very nice, can the Bilstein fit in the LGT Wagon?
yes, but you need wagon specific springs. Since the USDM Spec B is sedan only, you are SOL through US dealers.
SuperhawkLGT
09-20-2005, 07:40 PM
Anyone selling there spec B wheels? I'll take em:p
fzanetti
09-20-2005, 07:57 PM
With "just" the same power package as our LGT, not worthy IMHO....
SOA, please bring us a H6 bi turbo 450hp, to compete with M3's new B7 S4's etc etc etc...
Flavio Zanetti
Boston, MA
GranTourer
09-20-2005, 11:49 PM
Is that 215/45 tire size correct for an 18"? Hopefully the rest of the suspension bits can be ordered locally now.
Leonardo
09-21-2005, 05:24 AM
Hmm...my car weighs 100 lbs less....and is no longer offered...I scoff at the "rare" spec.B
+1
Adding the aluminum suspention bits would make ours even lighter !:dm:
Leonardo
09-21-2005, 05:29 AM
And yes, I still want the radio and steering wheel with audio controll.
I'll have to start work on the wireing aspect :D
Th3Franz
09-21-2005, 09:11 AM
lmao at Subaru. Most brilliant idea ever. :rolleyes:
"Let's put all the options that everyone has been asking for in the Legacy, navigation with 5MT, radio control on the steering wheel, MP3 support in the head unit, and better stock tires and suspension bits... AND only make 500 of them! It's genius!"
They drop the 5MT wagon and then alter a production line to make 500 of these... I just hope that I can source some Spec B parts through the local dealer.
executor485
09-21-2005, 09:32 AM
With "just" the same power package as our LGT, not worthy IMHO....
SOA, please bring us a H6 bi turbo 450hp, to compete with M3's new B7 S4's etc etc etc...
Flavio Zanetti
Boston, MA
+5
I completely agree, they need to bring us the sweet rides like they make in japan, and not just the run of the mill ones. In fact, I may be convinced to trade in my 1 1/2 month old LGT for a sweet twin turbo H6 with 450HP :)
Why give us the same car (with some upgrades mind you) and expect a hefty price and limited quanity? At least put in a better engine or something... but thats just IMHO
2Simpletons
09-21-2005, 02:26 PM
Wow, RE070's ...this is HUGE. I've always wondered what the wife's LGT would feel like with my STi's tires. Wow. That alone is huge. Ya better get some friggin' winter tires though.
melayout
09-21-2005, 02:28 PM
They're RE050.
GranTourer
09-21-2005, 02:29 PM
Are they really 215/45?
steveracer
09-21-2005, 02:52 PM
At the dealership was a specB sedan without a rear spoiler-looked great in my favorite color. Wheels looked sharp, stance just right.
Can I get mine in a wagon?
Which dealership was this btw?
Jedi Pimp
09-21-2005, 05:59 PM
I have pricing information everyone!
Subaru of Dallas has two coming at the end of October... and no, they wont be driven.
One is a no option, Titanium Silver (only color available) Spec B for $34,620 (incl. destination).
The other one we have coming is equipped with Security System Upgrade, Wheel Locks, and STi Short Thro Shifter. MSRP is 35,157.
If you are serious about purchasing one of these vehicles I recommend calling me or emailing me ASAP!!!
-Kevin Heist
Subaru of Dallas
kheist@subaruofdallas.com
469-688-2222
$35,000 Spec B or a used E46 M3.... Hmmmm tough decision
billyhuff
09-21-2005, 06:08 PM
Big deal, same horsepower, buy some stiffer struts when yours wear out.
Kevin@SoD
09-21-2005, 07:31 PM
Wow, RE070's ...this is HUGE. I've always wondered what the wife's LGT would feel like with my STi's tires. Wow. That alone is huge. Ya better get some friggin' winter tires though.
They're actually RE050's a little different than the STi's RE070's... much quiter and just about as grippy.
These are the exact tire used on the JDM spec-B... I know, I had a set until I sold them a month ago.
Kevin@SoD
09-21-2005, 07:32 PM
At the dealership was a specB sedan without a rear spoiler-looked great in my favorite color. Wheels looked sharp, stance just right.
Can I get mine in a wagon?
I call BS without pics... and if he did see it, I'm postive it wasnt for sale and had manufacturer plates on it.
andrew.anderson
09-22-2005, 03:51 AM
Whyt he heck did they stick with the 5MT? Here in germany the Spec B has the STi 6MT. If it had the 6MT it might be worth the 34-35k they are asking.
axis008
09-22-2005, 04:47 AM
Good point, Andrew. I guess we'll see what Subaru has to offer in '06 for the '07s.
Whyt he heck did they stick with the 5MT? Here in germany the Spec B has the STi 6MT. If it had the 6MT it might be worth the 34-35k they are asking.
There are two Spec B cars - the H6 with 6sp and seven spoke wheels and the H4T with 5sp and ten spoke wheels. In Japan, it's the 2.0 Spec B. Here, we get the 2.5 Spec B.
steveracer
09-22-2005, 09:03 AM
Which dealership was this btw?
Dwyer in West Bloomfield, MI. Tuesday.
andrew.anderson
09-22-2005, 10:54 AM
There are two Spec B cars - the H6 with 6sp and seven spoke wheels and the H4T with 5sp and ten spoke wheels. In Japan, it's the 2.0 Spec B. Here, we get the 2.5 Spec B.
Here in Germany there is just the H6 3.0 Spec B w/ Nav and 6MT. it is 44,500 Euro. That is like $56,000. That is insane.
I just believe that since the STi 6MT holds up a lot better then the 5MT in the current legacy it would be nice for it to be an option in our Spec B since it is supposed to be the "performance" version of the legacy.
LegGTLT
09-22-2005, 11:39 AM
Dwyer in West Bloomfield, MI. Tuesday.
^^^ PICS?!?!?!?!?:confused: :confused: :confused:
2Simpletons
09-22-2005, 12:10 PM
Oh, ooops, good catch. They are RE050's, hehe. So, who's gettin' one of these?
Just out of curiousity, am I the only one interested in buying one? Just want to know if I have my choice of which of the 500.
moriarty
09-22-2005, 06:32 PM
As much as I would love one, I'm still making payments on the one I've got! I will rationalize this by telling myself I am holding out for te special edition that has 6sp and >250hp....
steveracer
09-22-2005, 08:49 PM
^^^ PICS?!?!?!?!?:confused: :confused: :confused:
No, didn't have a camera. Search online for pictures?
Also didn't notice a rear wiper on the car.
andrew.anderson
09-22-2005, 11:09 PM
As much as I would love one, I'm still making payments on the one I've got! I will rationalize this by telling myself I am holding out for te special edition that has 6sp and >250hp....
I'm with you. OUr 2005 LGT is already putting down 253 whp and when we upgrade the turbo, injectors, IC etc I am told the tranny (not the clutch) becomes the weakest link. Offer me the STI 6MT and I would pay the cash.
sebberry
09-23-2005, 12:34 AM
Seems kinda silly that it doesn't get the 6MT with the DCCD...
However, a limited edition H6 Turbo with 6MT would really make my mouth water... as long if it was in a Wagon
Depending on how the Navi units sell (Only avail on the H6 Outbacks in Canada... ) they might offer it in the Legacy sedan with a 5MT next year... I think that the Spec B wow factor will diminish rather quickly in a couple of years... needed more performance.
I like the idea of Subaru offering limited edition cars, but don't put the features we want offered in all of the cars just on the limited edition models.
I dunno.. I still think Navi should be an option on all but maybe the base models, dealer installed even...
I'm with you. OUr 2005 LGT is already putting down 253 whp and when we upgrade the turbo, injectors, IC etc I am told the tranny (not the clutch) becomes the weakest link. Offer me the STI 6MT and I would pay the cash.
several people on the board are running 350-400 wHP and have no issues on the stock transmission. Perhaps beyond 400-500 the 6sp is a necessity. At that point, the cost isn't an issue as you have already put more than $10K in the car.
LegGTLT
09-23-2005, 11:00 AM
No, didn't have a camera. Search online for pictures?
Also didn't notice a rear wiper on the car.
Sorry, I should have clarified:) . I think everyone on this board saw the specB when the spy photos came out from a fellow member here. I just wanted to see what the finished product looked like on a lot. I've seen the magazine/Edmunds/spy pics... now I want the IN PERSON pics! Anybody with me on this?:D Thanks for telling us it's there though! I'm sure someone will be there soon............ *waiting*..............
I've asked Subaru for some PR photos but I haven't heard back. Sorry guys. :(
sportwagon
09-23-2005, 05:11 PM
I'm a fan of the color! and aluminum arms!!!
Just a side note... Many people are assuming that aluminum arms are going to make the suspension so much lighter.
Have you ever held a WRX stamped steel lower L arm compared to a SOLID aluminum STI lower L arm?
They are not much diffrent in weight. Thats because the stamped steel peice is hollow inside. Whereas the aluminum peice is a SOLID peice of aluminum. Aluminum especially cast aluminum is a very weak metal. To even approach the strength of steel much more material needs to be used.
For this reason alot of group N rally racers dont even bother with aluminum suspension bits. Steel has a much higher stress resistance than aluminum for a minimal penalty in weight.
The rear peices are a no brainer though they will definately be lighter as we have SOLID cast iron bits back there.
If I were going to buy it it would be for the bushings only. Rumor has it subaru puts harder bushings into aluminum suspension bits and thats what makes the diffrence in response.
andrew.anderson
09-24-2005, 03:04 AM
several people on the board are running 350-400 wHP and have no issues on the stock transmission. Perhaps beyond 400-500 the 6sp is a necessity. At that point, the cost isn't an issue as you have already put more than $10K in the car.
I have heard that over 325-350 whp the transimittion begins to be an issue. Obviouslly i would not know since we are only at 254 right now. Perhaps if you are a sunday driver and not an agressive driver the tranny will hold up. Perhaps I have bad info.
Do we know anybody who has actually exploded a new gen Legacy GT/ FXT transmission?
I know PDX has 390 whp throgh thiers and Shaggy GT has around the same through his... and im pretty sure they dont drive like pootietangs.
Some of the FXT guys have lots more through thiers.
SUBE555
09-24-2005, 10:49 AM
Just out of curiousity, am I the only one interested in buying one? Just want to know if I have my choice of which of the 500.
I believe you are the only one interested in buying one.
It would take at least a Tuned by STi model with a front LSD for me to think about moving up from my 1-year limited edition 2.5GT Wagon with cloth and a manual transmisson. :p
True... The USDM spec B is basicly a trim level... Far from a true spec B.
LGT Base:
3300 lbs- Lightest LGT
$26,000
245/40/17's on wheels = $1200
Good Basic Coilover suspension= $1500
LGT Spec B:
3400 lbs I guess those aluminum bits did alot LOL. It weighs more than even the limited model.
$34,000?
215/45/18
Bilestien Suspension
Dosent make much sense from the performance standpoint. For less money you can have a car that runs circles around the spec B. For the same money you can have a GT30 setup with an FMIC.
True, I think they wanted a up market touring car. The enthusiasts would have preffered it less leather less nav. Im fine with leather and nav though, but its an extra 4k.
Jon [in CT]
09-24-2005, 07:20 PM
I've asked Subaru for some PR photos but I haven't heard back. Sorry guys. :(AFAIK, these are the only PR photos SOA has released for the GT spec.B. Click on a thumbnail to view the high-res version.
http://tinypic.com/dyncyg.jpg (http://vocuspr.vocus.com/VocusPR30/DotNet/Newsroom/ViewAttachment.aspx?SiteName=Subaru&Entity=PRAsset&AttachmentType=F&EntityID=98665&AttachmentID=fdd8169a-d1be-4896-8731-64964a80fb35&NewWindow=True) http://tinypic.com/dynfau.jpg (http://vocuspr.vocus.com/VocusPR30/DotNet/Newsroom/ViewAttachment.aspx?SiteName=Subaru&Entity=PRAsset&AttachmentType=F&EntityID=98664&AttachmentID=4ecfbd9e-4042-4346-bfa0-23b65abbe5c9&NewWindow=True) http://tinypic.com/dynfqe.jpg (http://vocuspr.vocus.com/VocusPR30/DotNet/Newsroom/ViewAttachment.aspx?SiteName=Subaru&Entity=PRAsset&AttachmentType=F&EntityID=98663&AttachmentID=44e6f5d6-eb2b-4604-96dc-0c8dcc2c4c18&NewWindow=True)
http://tinypic.com/dyng3o.jpg (http://vocuspr.vocus.com/VocusPR30/DotNet/Newsroom/ViewAttachment.aspx?SiteName=Subaru&Entity=PRAsset&AttachmentType=F&EntityID=98662&AttachmentID=2f22f395-edf5-4107-9d81-5d1bd2b4b6dc&NewWindow=True) http://tinypic.com/dypst4.jpg (http://vocuspr.vocus.com/VocusPR30/DotNet/Newsroom/ViewAttachment.aspx?SiteName=Subaru&Entity=PRAsset&AttachmentType=F&EntityID=98661&AttachmentID=e3f77dd1-5caf-471b-83dd-6a0d1b260ec3&NewWindow=True)
SuperhawkLGT
09-24-2005, 07:42 PM
Not even any spec b markings?
Rommel
09-24-2005, 08:39 PM
so there would only be 499 left :)
gt_ltd
09-24-2005, 09:02 PM
dont like the orange seats..
sebberry
09-24-2005, 09:42 PM
http://vocuspr.vocus.com/VocusPR30/Temp/Sites/1571/e3f77dd15caf471b83dd6a0d1b260ec3/Leg_specB_Front_SideVu3.jpg
Look at the driver... this is why Subaru doesn't see a need for a 6MT, H6 with 6MT or H6 Turbo...
SUBE555
09-24-2005, 10:02 PM
:lol: LMAO!
My dad is wondering right now why they didn't use Danika Patric in there! Funny coming from him. He's not even an auto enthusiast but he's also mentioning how he thinks it's a subpar car. :lol:
gt_ltd
09-24-2005, 10:14 PM
is that a man or woman in the pic?
melayout
09-24-2005, 11:40 PM
Dats H0t [/paris]
Lub the red leather, volume controls, navi and rims.
I hope they sell all of them so we can get more options.
SUBE555
09-25-2005, 02:19 AM
is that a man or woman in the pic?
How about a little bit of both? :confused:
sebberry
09-25-2005, 03:25 AM
I like the wheels, well done 18's look good on that car.
Navi is nice, would be better if it was the JDM version wtih a 30gb hard drive for mp3 playback.
The red... no thanks, needs to be darker, and maybe just the seat surface insert instead of the whole seats. In fact, I would rather have a suede feel like in the STi...
Also, maybe match the shifter boot and parking brake boot in red.
I still would like to see an H6 in the legacy with at least a 5MT... the competition is offering V6's in their sedans, lots of people are still plagued with the negative imaga of turbos of the 80's... The red seats is not enough to really set this car apart from the rest.
I wonder what the product planning execs at Subaru think when they read these posts...
True... The USDM spec B is basicly a trim level... Far from a true spec B.
:confused:
A 'true Spec B'?? WTF mate? The JDM Spec B IS just a trim level. Granted, they get a few other bits (bumper with different spoiler option for one), but the USDM Spec B is to the USDM LGT as the JDM Spec B is to the JDM LGT.
andrew.anderson
09-25-2005, 08:27 AM
:confused:
A 'true Spec B'?? WTF mate? The JDM Spec B IS just a trim level. Granted, they get a few other bits (bumper with different spoiler option for one), but the USDM Spec B is to the USDM LGT as the JDM Spec B is to the JDM LGT.
But we want a higher performance Legacy! I personnaly could care less about most of the cosmetic mods. Like I said earlier. Drop a 6MT in there with the blisten suspension and all the other crap and I would buy one.
would a 6sp in the Spec B be enough for you? No, of course not. Consider it and the Legacy by STi model as stepping stones...hopefully, a full-tilt-boogie STi model will be released. I still wouldn't buy one, because it probably will be sedan only.
andrew.anderson
09-25-2005, 11:13 AM
would a 6sp in the Spec B be enough for you? No, of course not. Consider it and the Legacy by STi model as stepping stones...hopefully, a full-tilt-boogie STi model will be released. I still wouldn't buy one, because it probably will be sedan only.
If I was in the market for another car and the Spec B came with everything it somes with now, plus the 6MT it would be enought to push it over the edge and intpo the realm of purchase possibilities. I know it is overpriced but oh well.
SuperhawkLGT
09-25-2005, 05:54 PM
Miata gets a 6spd for crying out loud, I want a 6spd just for the simple fact that I would get better mileage. What is our final drive ratio anyways? 3500rpm at 80mph, rediculous.
agctr
09-25-2005, 06:42 PM
Hmm dont know what all the fuss is about, we have had these rides here for months. The uptake has been really great and most Motor Mags are saying its a great ride but can be a little slow on the uptake aka 0 - 100.
Handling and braking are great including the sweet STi Box. For the non belivers, get out there and get a test drive if u can. With only 500 avail, Im sure they will go like hotcakes.
Ada///M.
Miata gets a 6spd for crying out loud, I want a 6spd just for the simple fact that I would get better mileage. What is our final drive ratio anyways? 3500rpm at 80mph, rediculous.
Simple fact is the 6sp from the STi WON'T make a bit of difference in gas mileage. Someone worked out the math and it was like 100 lower RPM in top gear cruise at 80.
We have a 6sp in the MCS and it is sweet.....keeps the motor right in the sweet spot when you drive it hard. I forget to put it in 6th most of the time :lol:
SuperhawkLGT
09-25-2005, 07:52 PM
Whats an MCS? Well I guess i will make my own 6spd with a nice tall 6th gear :rolleyes:
Leonardo
09-26-2005, 08:22 AM
Ok, I really want the radio and steering wheel!!!
Leonardo
09-26-2005, 08:27 AM
is that a man or woman in the pic?
Japan gets Bruce Willis and we get Pat?!?!?
twisted
09-26-2005, 11:36 AM
that looks like the asian guy from the Motor trend staff...or mrs doubtfire
Leonardo
10-08-2005, 10:46 AM
b4rN!!!
gfxdave99
10-12-2005, 01:54 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05285/586667.stm dorky car writer writes about the spec.b
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05285/586667.stm dorky car writer writes about the spec.b
that's not even worthy of a post....no pics, no driving impressions....
Collectors will want to grab one of just 500 special edition 2006 Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B sedans, a high performance version of Subaru's popular all-wheel drive intermediate model.
What makes this car special is a 250 horsepower intercooled turbocharged engine, along with exclusive suspension treatments and unique design elements and interior features. It's been offered only in Japan and Europe in the past, but Subaru, whose image is getting sportier quickly, decided to offer in the United States, too.
It's painted an exclusive Titanium Silver Metallic exterior color and has aerodynamic side ground-effects moldings with chrome trims. It has 18-inch 10-spoke alloy wheels and low profile performance tires, brick red leather interior, and comes only with a five-speed manual transmission.
The guy goes on to spew the normal SOA BS about changes to the company's lineup...nothing about the Spec B :rolleyes:
Subarex
10-14-2005, 07:38 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the gaps between the wheel wells and the wheels are huge? I'm not into the whole "lowered" or "slammed" look but that thing looks like its on stilts. Looks stupid, needs to be lowered at least 1"
sebberry
10-14-2005, 08:44 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the gaps between the wheel wells and the wheels are huge? I'm not into the whole "lowered" or "slammed" look but that thing looks like its on stilts. Looks stupid, needs to be lowered at least 1"
You want stilts? Try the Outback. If you lowered the Spec B an inch, it would look lowered...
RacingFish
10-17-2005, 10:26 PM
yeah outback sedan looks like one of those 1980's amc eagles....
Subarex
10-18-2005, 08:02 AM
Outback looks weird. Is an Outback sedan considered an SUV like the wagon? Whats the difference between the Legacy and the Outback (other than the suspension)?
Leonardo
10-18-2005, 09:23 AM
When the Outback sedan first came out, it was called a SUS. Yup, you got it, Sport Utility Sedan.
Other than Ground clearance and some bumpers (not sure about interior) it's the same
RacingFish
10-18-2005, 12:03 PM
poor outback.. always a copy of another suby...
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Subarex
10-18-2005, 08:38 PM
Of all the car companies I think Subaru has some of the weirdest designs out there. Between the Outback Sedan, Tribeca, and above all, the Baja, they have one of the weirdest fleets in the industry. They're lucky they handle and accelerate so well (well the turbo models at least). Then again, when I first bought my bugeye WRX in early 2002 it was one of the funkiest looking cars out there.
Ezstrydr
10-22-2005, 07:16 PM
The dealarship that I work at just got two Spec.B's (Numbers 157 and 158). Only real mods are reddish leather interior, nicer wheels, and a pewter color. Performance is all the same but the price is 38,000 firm.
melayout
10-22-2005, 09:26 PM
$38,000 USD when MSRP is ~$33,900 USD, good luck selling them.
Yes please go elsewhere to extort spec.B potential buyers. "Loaded" is $35.5k MSRP
melayout
10-22-2005, 09:35 PM
Seriously, this kind of dealer BS may drive away buyers.
Btw Ezstrydr, what's the name and location of your dealership?
gt_ltd
10-23-2005, 12:19 AM
for 38K i'd rather have a bmw 330i/xi.
Jon [in CT]
10-23-2005, 01:29 PM
for 38K i'd rather have a bmw 330i/xi.You mean the one with 215 hp and 185 lb-ft torque?
gt_ltd
10-23-2005, 01:40 PM
i mean i wont pay 1 cent above msrp.
Ezstrydr
10-24-2005, 12:47 PM
I'm not trying to sell any cars on this website. In my opinion the spec.b isnt worth anymore than the limited. The truth is that nobody is going to let one go for msrp when there are only five hundred of them being produced. Its basic supply and demand.
You are absolutely right, it is supply and demand. But your dealership is overestimating the demand in many people's opinion (including my own). Demand is lower because it is a limited run. If they made it an option package with several hundred ran per month, the cost would have been less and the demand greater.
gt_ltd
10-24-2005, 01:27 PM
http://www.theapplecollection.com/various/think/images/LogoSlateLgHi.gif
- Tide
SuperhawkLGT
10-24-2005, 03:33 PM
Lets boycott spec b's right now!
nned4spd
11-01-2005, 02:50 PM
I saw the Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B Limited yesterday at a local dealer and they were asking MSRP plus were giving the Subie incentives.
The wheels looked better in person. Too bad this is the only one to get the red leather.
GranTourer
11-01-2005, 05:36 PM
Eh, I saw the spec. B on Saturday and wasn't really impressed. The "red" interior looked awful. I would be green with envy if it had that nice JDM blue on black leather interior.
The only thing that suprised me was the stance, definately not like it is in the media where it looks likes it's on stilts.
volkgt
11-02-2005, 07:10 PM
I've got spec B #129 for below sticker with 10 miles on it. Has auto-dim mirror w/ compass, center armrest extension, splash guards, and the security system upgrade. MSRP = $35,236
gt_ltd
11-02-2005, 07:11 PM
how much below?
spec.B-Jay
11-02-2005, 07:31 PM
Hey everyone! I just got spec.B #312 on Monday. I paid about $1500 under sticker. Sticker was $35,700... fully loaded with spoiler, Momo shiftknob, and of course nav, CD in dash changer, heated seats, moonroof, etc... I LOVE this car!! :wub:
I'll post some more pics this weekend when it's light out, it just gets so dark so early nowadays ...
mccorry
11-02-2005, 07:32 PM
Congratulations!
*Jedimaster*
11-02-2005, 08:07 PM
http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11432&stc=1&thumb=1
Y'know what would be nice? Have "GT Spec B # 312" embroidered on the headrests.
melayout
11-02-2005, 09:15 PM
Jay, congrats and welcome. Lucky bish.
G.T.Subie
11-03-2005, 07:20 AM
Good luck with the nice ride...............
Subarex
11-05-2005, 11:45 AM
Has anyone driven both a spec B and a Regular GT? I'd like to hear about some of the differences in driving dynamics.
SuperhawkLGT
11-05-2005, 12:37 PM
No owners yet?
cschneider
11-05-2005, 04:26 PM
I just picked up my new 05 LGT LTD and saw the dealer's Spec B sitting in the showroom looking almost good enough for me to reconsider spending another $8K. I ended up driving the LGT home but the manager said they hadn't had a whole lot of interest in it yet. He also said they would never even consider selling a car above sticker, even the Spec B. Sure was a nice looking car!
spec.B-Jay
11-07-2005, 10:04 PM
Has anyone driven both a spec B and a Regular GT? I'd like to hear about some of the differences in driving dynamics.
I have. There is noticeably more body roll when pushed in the corner for the standard GT. I wasn't really allowed to get into the throttle much - it was just a test drive. Supposedly the acceleration and power are the same, and I see no reason to doubt that.
spec.B-Jay
11-07-2005, 10:05 PM
No owners yet?
:icon_neut :icon_ques
can you measure your rear sway bar?
BrownBoy
11-08-2005, 01:22 PM
Gillman Subaru Southwest has no. 498/500. I wonder who will get no. 500. If I had a bit more money than I have now, I think I would have picked up the Spec. B if I could get no. 1 or no. 500...or maybe a wierd no. like no. 13 or no.69 or something. :icon_bigg
BMG905
11-21-2005, 12:32 PM
Can't say I'm overly inspired to pony up $5-7K more for the B-Spec if it isn't faster or better looking than the GT or the LTD. If they offered it with 300hp and 6 speeds I might be tempted, but I'll just stay with my 98 GT for now and save up for a new GT in the spring.
Any feedback on the 5 speed Auto with the Turbo 2.5, I have the 4 speed Auto now with the 2.5 NA motor and it takes finesse with the shifter to ge the car launched into highway traffic sometimes, the low end is too weak and you need revs to launch onto Jersey freeways. I find it requires a delicate touch to get the shifter into 2nd gear without going too far into 1st. Upshifting can be finicky too, sometimes going past D into N if you tap the shifter too hard from 3rd.
melayout
11-21-2005, 12:37 PM
The 5EAT is very good, you should try to get a ride from the local peeps. I should caution you MBlock66's ride is a "lil" peppy.
BMG905
11-23-2005, 05:59 PM
Thanks for the info on the 5EAT, it sure helps to have an auto in Jersey driving. It saves on clutch replacements and aggravation.
BoostedBooRoo
11-28-2005, 01:20 PM
So, after all this there is not going to be a wagon.. bastards!!!!!