Guaging interest on modified USDM bumper

[Rommel]

We're thinking of making a front bumper for the USDM model that can accomodate a FMIC it will be made of fiberglass. We will modify the USDM bumper and incorporate a front lip. I need inputs to what you guys want.

[Kaos22B]

I know you said USDM bumper replica... but maybe a hippo-sleek replica? That would accomodate a FMIC perfectly, and it looks sick. I would buy one!

[wayne53]

I bumper with a big hole in it would be awesome so a bigger fmic could poke through :D

hippo-sleek is to squarish, IMO

[Rommel]

do you have a link or pics

[wayne53]

hippo sleek
http://premium1.uploadit.org/tylerwayne//carclub_15.jpg

[Rommel]

Keep all the ideas coming the more the better. Guys, remember this will be molded from a USDM stock bumper and modified.

[PGT]

Spec B bumper with STi wrap around lip.

[LGT Chris]

hippo sleek
http://premium1.uploadit.org/tylerwayne//carclub_15.jpg

Watch those concrete parking bumbers. More pratical.

Too rice. Doesn't really match the rest of the wagon's curves.

CJ

[ekuhockey18]

I kinda like it.... esp. if you have a FMIC. Wonder if the side skirts come with it?

[team23jordan]

that bumper is kinda ricey..
why not make JDM spec B bumper except modify it little bit
so we can fit the bumper beam and the FMIC

[wayne53]

that bumper is kinda ricey..
why not make JDM spec B bumper except modify it little bit
so we can fit the bumper beam and the FMIC

YES!! spec b for the win.

[MUD]

Two ideas. I don't know how feasible they are cause I know nada about body work, but they're ideas none-the-less!

I'm thinking of a front lip that would mount to the USDM bumper. Something like the lowest point of the Hippo front bumper or something like the Gialla lip. A lip that would slide on sort of like a Wings West W-Type lip would on a Honda!

OR.... a replica of the lowest portion of the Spec B front bumper. Like a slip-on lip for the USDM. Basically the same idea as above... only less aggressive.

I wish I had some PS skillz..... I could show you what I'm talking about. In barbaric terms, HACK off the lowest lip portion of the Hippo, Gialla or Spec B.... and SLAP it on the USDM bumper!

[Rommel]

Do you guys want to use your existing fog lights?

[axis008]

+2 for Spec. B bumper molded. Would it be hard to modify it to incorporate the USDM bumper beam? And to use existing fog lights would be nice... It'd be more cost-effective for the owner.

[Rommel]

Does anybody have a ilnk or a picture of the upcoming USDM Spec B?

[PGT]

I don't think the US model is any different than the non-Spec B model GT.

[Rommel]

hmmmmmm .......... so I need to get a JDM Spec B bumber

[almondcookie]

1. I would like to use my fog lights. There's a couple scenarios for this. You could include a fog light "kit" so the person would pull the bulb/housing out of the OEM bumper and attach it to the new "kit"/housing. The housing on your bumper could be smaller or fixed or whatever by design. If the person decided to not use their fog lights, then you can simply supply instructions on how to disconnect the foglights. Perhaps provide an "endcap" or suggest some tape to cover the fog light connector from road dirt and grime. Tape is probably the easiest.

2. The hipposleek isn't too bad. I'm noticing what people are saying about the lines. The top left and top right corners of the FMIC opening are "bending inward" which really doesn't match any of the outward moving lines. The height might an issue. Maybe 1/2 the height? Remember that the car you see there is already lowered.

3. Gialla design is pretty nice too. Clean and not too "hole-y"

4. Front bumper +/- lip; I would say ideal would be an 1" or so lower. Again, not too bent on holes, UNLESS they're functional. Fog lights or no foglights user option would be nice. Would your design also be license plate ready? MD state needs a front plate while I know some states don't. I don't mind it being like the hipposleek design because I have a license plate hinge, so I'll swing out of the way. =).

interest + 1

[Alias_dznr]

I vote for staying close to Spec B style. And for keeping the stock foglights. But how about integrating a discrete (visually) real brake cooling duct?

[OCDetails]

Gialla: (http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/sportivo/lega_200829.html)

http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/sportivo/img/lega-20030829.jpg

[Drift Monkey]

Meh on the Spec B bumper.

...and no OCDetails, that's a 3.0R bumper.

[OCDetails]

How bout this then? (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=106823)

http://tinypic.com/dvj2v7.gif

Looks just like a regular LGT bumper to me, but it is on the '06 Spec B.

[Gire]

Spec B bumper with STi wrap around lip.

+1000


The JDM Spec B bumper that can wrap around our bumper beam would get my vote (and order).

[PGT]

How bout this then? (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=106823)



Looks just like a regular LGT bumper to me, but it is on the '06 Spec B.

I don't think the US model is any different than the non-Spec B model GT.

[PGT]

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/LEGACY/imgs/top.jpg

[almondcookie]

If that bumper was a little bit taller to make the opening a larger (vertically), that would be my ideal bumper.

[MUD]

The reason I mention just a lip that "replicates" the lines of the Spec B is because I don't want an all Fiberglass front bumper, I prolly won't get a FMIC.... and price. Most (okay..... ME!) won't be able to afford a replacement bumper.

Just something to accent the lines a little more than the STi lip would be SWEET!

And yes.... I do want to keep my fog lights.

[93formula]

Keep all the ideas coming the more the better. Guys, remember this will be molded from a USDM stock bumper and modified.

I'd go for one that had a lip molded in and to get rid of that triangle piece in the middle, and maybe include a better looking mesh grill in it too?!

[scans007]

Just as an FYI, for my front bumper with the FMIC, I am keep'n the stock bumper with my lip. I can cutting the middle section out.......But if this bumper is gonna come out reasonably soon, I might chill and wait.......as I missed out on the lip/grill ;).......

Oh and i'm pretty confident in say'n that all the FMIC kit installs will have to mod the bumper beam, so it's really not a concern to fit the Stock bumper beam, that is if this bumper is be'n made primarily made for the FMIC kits.....

1) Def wanna keep the fogs
2) Def want an open area for the FMIC

I'm easy :D

The attached pic is a quick hack as what I am go'n to do once the FMIC is on next monday....and the 2nd pic is just a hack with an FMIC in it

[PGT]

are you coating that thing black?

[scans007]

are you coating that thing black?

LOL, that's just a photoshop hack (but you knew that ;)).......I will attach black mesh to the bumper infront of the fmic, protect'n it from our winters.....:D

[TSi+WRX]

Oh snap, PGT got BURNED!!!!! :lol:

Just kidding, bro, I was actually right there with you in thinking "damn, that looks s-i-c-k! (a-la Streetracingchronicles)," and was about to petition that brother scans paint it stealthy-black, too.

Dude, Steve, that really looks greeeeat!

Personally, though, I'm actually not sure how much you'll have a need for the mesh. Prior to Winky, my rides were DSMs - slammed to the ground, no clearance, and saddled up-front with huge, huge, FMICs. My last DSM:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/data/502/20795Ipark1.JPG
*pic courtesy of her previous owner, notice the "VA" tag

Even in this manner, they were never much bad off. :D

I'd go for the stealth-black paint, or do the mesh simply for looks, not for protection. :)

[scans007]

Yeah that was it's other purpose, hide the FMIC.....I'll do one or the other.....prob go with mesh....although it will prob be easier to paint the IC......

The main point was to show a stock USDM bumper without the middle slot, with the fogs and FMIC.......for people to see what it would look like.

I would def love to see a bumper and soon =) So I was just giving my input.....

Damn you guys, no all I can think of is painting it.......Monday's so far away....*sigh*

[highwaydrifter]

umm wtf guys..

k2k2!~!!!!!

http://www.k2k2.jp/img/earo/BP_earo/050125-01b2.jpg

[PGT]

I like that design!!

My comment about a black FMIC was because Scans is driver Lord Vader's car. :lol:

[TSi+WRX]

"I b honkin' Lord Vader."

:lol:

--------

Back on-topic.....

Ooooo...even though I'm a lighting fanatic, I'd ditch my factory fogs for the k2k2. Gorgeous....

[al-gorithm]

I like the look of the half front spoiler from Gialla Corsa Kit:
http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/corsa/img/b4_200405.jpg

I was planning to buy the sides and rears next summer through Paul. Your front bumper would be a welcomed addition to your product line...

[scans007]

ME TOO....look at my car now...that's what I was shooting for........(AKA - Lord Vaders Cars.....LOL)

I like the K2K2, but don't wanna loose the fogs....which I could retro fit there, but that's just no fun.....I'm all for the look of the Gialla Corsa Kit

[sportwagon]

I like the look of the half front spoiler from Gialla Corsa Kit:
http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/corsa/img/b4_200405.jpg

I was planning to buy the sides and rears next summer through Paul. Your front bumper would be a welcomed addition to your product line...

I can't tell: Are there fogs on this kit??? sort of looks like there are!

[almondcookie]

1/2 spoiler... Isn't that = attachable "front lip"? Those wheels are HOT. They're only ~350+s&h each though =(.

The k2k2 has too many curvy lines for me. The whole kit all together is nice but we're just talking about the front bumper. So it might not all flow too well.

The gialla kit (lower part) has that protuding corners like the Amuse 2000 kit I like. It squares off the edges and makes the car stance look broader/wider.

[JBLU24]

on a sidenote- nice wing in the gialla pic

[Mines]

If u can make the gialla lip fit, it would look GREAT

[al-gorithm]

Yeah but he wants to fit a FMIC behind there hence the whole new bumper skin. If you can fabricate a front bumper with the Gialla front lip integrated, that would be a great seller.

[almondcookie]

just keep it nice and simple square hole =)

one of my wallpapers at work. hopefully this inspires some designs.

[wayne53]

how about this??? Just cut out the center post?

http://premium1.uploadit.org/tylerwayne//340c8b75photoshop.jpg

:D

[Kaos22B]

that looks so nice!
Must.... buy... Grille... Lip...
how'd they make the fogs yellow?

[Rommel]

how about this??? Just cut out the center post?

http://premium1.uploadit.org/tylerwayne//340c8b75photoshop.jpg

:D
that's where we are going to start, I'm trying to get a nice lip spoiler that we can integrate to the bumber so it would be 1 piece
:)

[wayne53]

that looks so nice!
Must.... buy... Grille... Lip...
how'd they make the fogs yellow?

They are a yellow film that you can buy at www.hot-subaru.com (http://www.hot-subaru.com)

[sc 540i]

:p....

[highwaydrifter]

looks like the trial lip :)

[wayne53]

I think it's actually the WRX chargespeed ver. 1

[sc 540i]

Correct.

[Hanger]

a JDM spec B bumper would be great! i heard u guys can also try to integrate a grill with the bumper?

[Rommel]

we may try to do that

[Hanger]

wow u guys reply fast, hmm just wanna know when would it be done? it's reali pricey searchign around online for import parts

[Rommel]

everything is in the drawing stages right now, I'm still trying to get a nice decent lip to integrate

[Hanger]

hmm maybe JDM spec B bumper would be hard to mold to from the USDM bumper. But here's a picture i found in the forum, the car bumper looks like speb B bumper but it also looked like it's a half bumper also! like a lip.

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/atta...tachmentid=2846

and here's another good looking lip
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19704

Thank you!

[Hanger]

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2846

hopefully this link works...

[highwaydrifter]

i like that flatt grill.. going to have to get me one...

[illt3ck]

I'd like something that incorporates the winglets ala the 02 WRX C-West front bumper - and also the cut out in the grille for the intake.

Pic:

http://www.importpartsusa.com/body-kit-menu-images/subaru/cwest-wrx-front1.jpg

[Rommel]

I'm trying to get a lip just like that

[MUD]

^^Cool. A cut down Flatt lip would be awesome.

I'd be all about that lip right there!

Now..... just need some seat brackets & an air bag sensor fix for the front seats!

[highwaydrifter]

damnit you cant get a flatt.. then everyone else will have one...

!@#$%^&*&R!@#$%^&*&*^%$$%^&*(!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wayne53]

just messing around..

http://premium1.uploadit.org/tylerwayne//moddedspecb.jpg

[andersoncollectibles]

I like that.. looks very nice.

[highwaydrifter]

mmkaaayyy that is sexy.. i think i am going to have to get the jdm bumper and bumper beams.. damn you all...

maybe i will go ricetastic and get a trial front lip as well... just to tide me over until i can pony up for a nice kit..

anyone know if the jdm white is the same as the usdm white?

[wayne53]

no, it's not

[GranTourer]

how about this??? Just cut out the center post?

http://premium1.uploadit.org/tylerwayne//340c8b75photoshop.jpg

:D
That would look nice. Definately a good base to work off of. Maybe a larger opening for the air dam, if possible? Some spec B lower side accents too.
http://www.pages.drexel.edu/%7Egm34/images/larger_dam.jpg

[Hanger]

C-West lip
http://www.c-west.co.jp/aero/bp/

I reali like the look of this! i would sign up for one if you can make it
http://www.trial.co.jp/osaka/original/tryaero/bl_bp5.htm

[SuperhawkLGT]

More ideas.

[jarrod]

how about urethane instead of fiberglass?

[jarrod]

how about this??? Just cut out the center post?

http://premium1.uploadit.org/tylerwayne//340c8b75photoshop.jpg

:D

i like this personally. but mold the fog light things into the bumper and make it flush with the rest of the bumper?

[AWDxBOOST]

thats what i was thinking ^

[GranTourer]

i like this personally. but mold the fog light things into the bumper and make it flush with the rest of the bumper?

+1 Like the JDM spec.B fogs, round and flush.

[Limeade]

Just no rice.

[team23jordan]

Just no rice.


Amen.

that LGT bumper with mid section cut out looks good
but it's too plain.. i mean we want a bumper that's designed for FMIC
and different than stock.


I say JDM Spec-B
http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10639
+1000000000000000000000
it has a semi-lip thing too
also comes with foglights.
we might be able to take the foglights and modify it to make it fit

2nd pic is like our USDM LGT but little different
i'm down with that too

[Mines]

that 2nd pic is just has the jdm front bumper (2.0 GT) with a Sti lip

[team23jordan]

i like the JDM front bumper as well. no middle section different fog light settin.
but spec B is just too pimprish :lol:

[Quelok]

how about urethane instead of fiberglass?

Ditto!

[coxx]

hippo sleek
http://premium1.uploadit.org/tylerwayne//carclub_15.jpg Toooooo Rice. JDM spec-b replica please

[almondcookie]

the lower lip area on the hipposleek front bumper is a very popular design. lower mid-area with 2 vent holes. GReddy's design is similar but not exact. my rx7 has a lip like that by a company called FEED. they stopped making it so another company ChargeSpeed makes fiberglass copies.

i think the brake holes and little vent holes a bit much. i do like the big middle opening. you can keep it open or you can put something there ... like a front mount. but even without a front mount, it still looks good (the big middle opening, not the rest)

also, a kit that low would never survive my roads and my driveway. also what about getting that thing on an alignment rack or a lift. =(.

[Leonardo]

I'd like something that incorporates the winglets ala the 02 WRX C-West front bumper - and also the cut out in the grille for the intake.

Pic:

http://www.importpartsusa.com/body-kit-menu-images/subaru/cwest-wrx-front1.jpg

I say the cutout on the bumper as the main focus is cooling the FMIC. You can incorporate two intakes like the ones on the R33 bumper or Evo bumper.

[illt3ck]

so obviously there is interest in an aftermarket bumper - where is WRX LGT coming on the development?

[Rommel]

We are still gathering more feedback from you guys about what would be a good design. So far a Spec B is type is the majority.

[BOXRPWR]

Come on - Rommel. You just answered the "feedback" question. A USDM version of the Spec B bumper is the only one with mass appeal. Sure, there's a dozen other aftermarket designs that different people like. But the Spec B would have more universal appeal.

So now you can answer illt3ck's (and everyone else's) question.....when or if RBS plans to begin producing this thing?!

[Rommel]

:)

[axis008]

+1 on what Kevin said. The Spec B provides the cleanest look overall. It doesn't scream at anyone, is subtle, yet aggressive.

[GranTourer]

+2, but with a slightly larger center opening for maximum FMIC cooling ...if doable/clean looking.

[SuperhawkLGT]

What will you see back there if you don't go with a fmic?

[BOXRPWR]

Come on Rommel....the natives are getting restless. Pick the Spec B bumper design. reshape it slightly to fit over the USDM beam, make sure the USDM stock fog lights fit (modify as req'd) and start making these damn things!

if you could offer these Spec B knock-offs painted for something less than $600 bucks shipped, you would sell quite a lot I think.

[PGT]

$600 painted and shipped? I'd buy one ;)

[Duke of Lawnchair]

Here's another vote for a Spec-B type bumper.

For $600 shipped I'd buy it without a doubt.

[illt3ck]

I'd buy one too.

[Mines]

I would be in for it too

[Rommel]

I'm not sure if $600 shipped painted is doable. Just shipping that size is over $100 + painting.

[Duke of Lawnchair]

Hey, it never hurts to throw ideas out in the open. :icon_bigg

[BOXRPWR]

well, I just wanted to set the bar low (so sales volume would be high).

can you guessitmate what the price might be for a painted unit less shipping?

the shipping costs could come down immensely if a few people that lived within say 100 miles of each other choose to use Yellow Freight and could pick it up at a central depot for YF. I bet the costs would be about $30-50 ea. anywhere in the continental U.S.

of course - I'd just borrow a pickup truck and drive over to Rommel's place to pick mine up! :icon_lol:

[illt3ck]

well, I just wanted to set the bar low (so sales volume would be high).

can you guessitmate what the price might be for a painted unit less shipping?

the shipping costs could come down immensely if a few people that lived within say 100 miles of each other choose to use Yellow Freight and could pick it up at a central depot for YF. I bet the costs would be about $30-50 ea. anywhere in the continental U.S.

of course - I'd just borrow a pickup truck and drive over to Rommel's place to pick mine up! :icon_lol:

And I'd be making a trip from Carlsbad to Temecula :)

[giotein]

wow... that was a lot of reading...

i personally LOVE the hippo sleek.. but if some people find it to aggressive.. i think that the middle of the hippo sleek kit.. where the FMIC would be.. looks REALLY good.. but to change the "aggressive" look.. where the fog lights are... modify it to look like the side of the Gaila... because the bottom of the Gaila has similar looks with the JDM specB bumper...

im not good with PS so.. IF anyone has a good imagination... could you help me PS it?

[team23jordan]

i say 600 shipped is pushing it
shipping should be around 150, if not more

720 painted/shipped sounds resonable TO ME :lol:

[Canuck 2.5GT]

umm wtf guys..

k2k2!~!!!!!

http://www.k2k2.jp/img/earo/BP_earo/050125-01b2.jpg

Wow, can you say M5.......
http://www.bmwm5.com/articles/m5e60/pressrelease2/7-800.jpg

[TDC Tuning]

Wow, can you say M5.......
http://www.bmwm5.com/articles/m5e60/pressrelease2/7-800.jpg


M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM5

i want that bumper bad looks like ill have to call the inlaws in .jp

[MUD]

If you can't design one that's a direct bolt on affair (Spec B), how about putting together a HUGE ( I mean massive) group buy for the JDM front bumpers along with the hardware?

I'd be down for that too!

[Canuck 2.5GT]

Maybe you can have his bumper:
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/m5/m5_20041127_001.jpg

[Leonardo]

I can't belive how alike are the M5 and the K2K2 bumpers!!!

[giotein]

HIPPO SLEEK... so original... will look unique among all cars!!

[MUD]

The reason I ask for somebody who can setup a group "buy" of the JDM Spec B bumper.....is because it was designed & made by Subaru. It won't be fiberglass.... and we KNOW that it will mount up with the proper bumper beam.

If we could get a discount on the shipping that's necessary to get them over here, I think quite a few people would jump on board!

Just my .02$

[Leonardo]

Wasn't Paul from AVO going to set up something a while back?

Need bumper, foam, the plastic undertray, and beam if you don't want to modify the stock one.

[MUD]

^^That's what I'm talking about maing!

That.....and a set of springs....and some 19" wheels.... and ya golden!

[Rommel]

AVO did try to set up a group buy but nobody was interested. You could still order it from him but the problem will be the shipping charge and customs duties.

[MUD]

Ouchiez!

[awd-turismo]

bump this....must...reduce...front...overhang

[SuperhawkLGT]

M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5 M5
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM5

i want that bumper bad looks like ill have to call the inlaws in .jp

Chris Bangle DIAF :icon_evil

[scans007]

BTW, here is my modified bumper without the center post so you guys can see it for real without the photoshop'n :D

http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/FMIC/Large/DSC02841.JPG

http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/FMIC/Large/DSC02843.JPG

[SuperhawkLGT]

You go with your bad self.

[MUD]

No joke!

Looks like I'll be contacting Paul at AVO to see how much the damage will be for the JDM Spec B + necessary hardware!

I want stubby bumper! HaHA!

That and..... oh.... 300AWTQ maybe!

[carman493]

I personally think that a bumper that is similar to the design of the Bomex Miata front bumper would be perfect...My 2000 miata has the bomex nose and it has a huge central opening for a big fmic like i had on my car, plus two large side opening for brake ducting and an aggressive look. If I find a link i will post it. But I think add-ons look better and when the bumper is one piece it looks as if it belongs. If someone could make a front bumper that is slightly lower in the front, kind of integrating a lip spoiler into the bumper as one piece as well as making the 3 large openings, i think that would look sick!

[team23jordan]

BTW, here is my modified bumper without the center post so you guys can see it for real without the photoshop'n :D

http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/FMIC/Large/DSC02841.JPG

http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/FMIC/Large/DSC02843.JPG


how did you cut the center piece out?

[rony]

Cut off tool? :icon_bigg

[SuperhawkLGT]

Body shop.

[TDC Tuning]

Air saw and some filing

i removed 99% of that bumper personally

[05gtKID]

NICE i'll take one
Gialla: (http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/sportivo/lega_200829.html)

http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/sportivo/img/lega-20030829.jpg

[05gtKID]

HOW BOUT SOMETHING LIKE THE C WEST ONE..

www.c-westusa.com

[05gtKID]

How about this grill i have been emailing C west to make it since i bought the car in 2004.....

I say the cutout on the bumper as the main focus is cooling the FMIC. You can incorporate two intakes like the ones on the R33 bumper or Evo bumper.

[Mines]

pm ravspec about the c-west. I know they just imported a lip and are test fitting fitment

[blacky]

c-west +1

[MUD]

You guys think it could be viable to run a poll to see who'd be interested (with funds) to contact Paul at AVO for a group buy on the JDM Spec-B front bumper package?

[Rommel]

You guys think it could be viable to run a poll to see who'd be interested (with funds) to contact Paul at AVO for a group buy on the JDM Spec-B front bumper package?

this was done before but the response was not enough to generate a group buy

[team23jordan]

rommel, so what bumper are you thinkin bout?

[Rommel]

this project is on hold right now

[MUD]

this was done before but the response was not enough to generate a group buy
Looks like I'll be going solo then.

[flatsphere]

AVO now has a full spec B bumper kit for sale for $990 USD.
http://www.avoturboworld.com/avoshop/product_info.php?cPath=1_58_3_118&products_id=357

Cheers,