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dkodyl
09-02-2005, 04:05 PM
Diesel power for Subaru?
02 September 2005 http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/images/null.gif
Subaru is developing a pair of diesel engines for the first time in the firm's history.
In true Subaru fashion, the new common rail turbo diesels will be based around the firm's trademark horizontally opposed 'boxer' design.
Designed in conjunction with Isuzu, the four cylinder engines will come in two guises, a 2.0 litre developing 111kW and a 135kW 2.2-litre.
Subaru originally commissioned Porsche's engineering expertise to design the new diesel units but the production units will be based around an in-house design. The move to develop these new engines is to help improve sales in diesel mad Europe. Expect to see these units to be powering the Impreza and Legacy models by the end of 2006.
Also on Subaru's agenda is the development of a Legacy petrol- electric hybrid.
With help from electronics giant NEC, the company is making claims that the battery technology used has a life of 15 years while offering a 30 per cent reduction in fuel economy from the car's turbocharged 2.0-litre petrol engine. The electric Legacy is due to go on sale in Japan in 2007.
firedawgs
09-02-2005, 04:08 PM
interesting.
f1anatic
09-02-2005, 04:09 PM
Dawg...I am buying that !
tantal
09-02-2005, 04:45 PM
Sign me up for the turbo diesel, as long as it has a 7MT.
=)
Xenonk
09-02-2005, 05:22 PM
that's some towing power.
Keefe
gfxdave99
09-02-2005, 05:35 PM
US Market will never see them though, with the new emissions standards starting for 07 for diesels even the ones they sell here now dont pass..
They will be popular in the eurpoean market however wher diesel is signifigantly cheaper and widely adopted.
http://www.epa.gov/cleandiesel/
*Jedimaster*
09-02-2005, 06:53 PM
Awesome! I want a stinky clackety clack car too!!!@1111eleven!1
Aczwild
09-02-2005, 06:55 PM
Man that would be so sweet to see Legacy Turbo Diesels scooting around, hopefully they engineer the babies to pass the stricter emissions standars, but most likely they are engineering them to be more competitive in Europe.
US Market will never see them though, with the new emissions standards starting for 07 for diesels even the ones they sell here now dont pass..
They will be popular in the eurpoean market however wher diesel is signifigantly cheaper and widely adopted.
http://www.epa.gov/cleandiesel/
Actually these motors are designed to be run on the higher quality type Diesel that Europe already gets. The U.S.'s new Diesel Fuel standard that goes into effect on '07 will be the same quality as Europe's fuel and less polluting than our current Diesel.
I expect them to come to our shores...even moreso since the price explosion for U.S. Fuel.
Penguin
09-03-2005, 08:27 AM
Here in BMW land we are expecting our turbodiesels to show up when we switch over to the better quality low sulphur diesel. So do not be too surprised to see a diesel Subaru here at some point in time. If I can afford it I will buy a BMW diesel when they show up, not because I don't like Subaru, but because BMW has more experience building high output turbodiesels.
EyeFlyIsTheEye
09-04-2005, 12:23 AM
A 30% reduction in fuel economy? My mileage is too high- I want one of those so I can waste more gas :dm:
Diesel power for Subaru?
02 September 2005 http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/images/null.gif
Subaru is developing a pair of diesel engines for the first time in the firm's history.
In true Subaru fashion, the new common rail turbo diesels will be based around the firm's trademark horizontally opposed 'boxer' design.
Designed in conjunction with Isuzu, the four cylinder engines will come in two guises, a 2.0 litre developing 111kW and a 135kW 2.2-litre.
Subaru originally commissioned Porsche's engineering expertise to design the new diesel units but the production units will be based around an in-house design. The move to develop these new engines is to help improve sales in diesel mad Europe. Expect to see these units to be powering the Impreza and Legacy models by the end of 2006.
Also on Subaru's agenda is the development of a Legacy petrol- electric hybrid.
With help from electronics giant NEC, the company is making claims that the battery technology used has a life of 15 years while offering a 30 per cent reduction in fuel economy from the car's turbocharged 2.0-litre petrol engine. The electric Legacy is due to go on sale in Japan in 2007.
mwiener2
09-06-2005, 04:58 PM
moved to news and rumors
93formula
09-07-2005, 02:31 AM
Doesn't BMW make a bad ass twin turbo 3.5 i 6 diesel with like 450 lb ft of torque
gfxdave99
09-07-2005, 02:58 AM
Doesn't BMW make a bad ass twin turbo 3.5 i 6 diesel with like 450 lb ft of torque
http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspecifications_technical_specs/0,4639,1156_2053__bs-NQ%253D%253D%2540bb-TEk%253D%2540bm-TkM5Mg%253D%253D%2540sit-bmwuk,00.html
93formula
09-07-2005, 03:24 AM
I want that motor in a 3 series. BMW do it and Im sold!
type b
09-07-2005, 07:26 AM
the 330d is available over here - same block, different turbos, so you could make your own....
The diesels over here don't smell, most of them don' t emit particulates and they aren't much noisier at idle than a petrol. If the 2.2 comes in a Spec B I'll be first in line
93formula
09-09-2005, 04:25 AM
I want one so bad. Think of a big turbo on that tuned by a big diesel tuner like bullydog or banks. 450-500 hp and 650-750 lb ft or torque. Why can't we be cool like Europe?
type b
09-09-2005, 06:37 AM
'cos your gas quality sucks! And GW is too involved with the oil industry to look beyond the bucks he's making right now
bdisco
09-09-2005, 08:55 AM
I miss my VW TDi, 42+ MPG, filled up every two weeks. Oh yeah, TORQUE baby.
retslo
09-09-2005, 12:53 PM
Yeah give me TDCI anytime. Gobs of torque, great mileage and longevity... Sooner the better.