View Full Version : Legacy STi, finally here
GeorgeB
08-17-2005, 11:41 AM
i don't know if it will de available in the US , and i think oly 600 will be made.
http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/LEGACY/imgs/top.jpg
http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/LEGACY/catalog/index.html
engine :
2.0 DOHC 16
E-5AT/5MT
TA-BL5 : 191（260）/6000
TA-BP5 : 206（280）/6400
could it be that the 5 doors has 20bhp plus ? :rolleyes:
specifications (http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/LEGACY/catalog/equipment/01/index.html)
3 colours :
http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/LEGACY/catalog/equipment/imgs/color_01.jpg http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/LEGACY/catalog/equipment/imgs/color_02.jpg http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/LEGACY/catalog/equipment/imgs/color_03.jpg
tantal
08-17-2005, 11:50 AM
Not if it has the 2.0 L engine, we won't get it. Too bad.
GeorgeB
08-17-2005, 11:52 AM
i really like the rims, and the double muffler tips on each side :D
*Jedimaster*
08-17-2005, 11:53 AM
Purdy. Much nicer than the Spec P (powser)* that they offer here.
*credit goes to whoever said that in another thread.
every single part on those cars is available through the STi catalog. I don't think those are new models as much as examples of what can be done through the parts catalog. Rims are $400/each, quad tip rear cans are $1400, front lip is $550, rear one is $650. I have been looking at those parts since I bought my car in Nov (and own the front lip). The power ratings are std. for the 2.0L JDM cars.
kenzo
08-17-2005, 11:57 AM
Purdy. Much nicer than the Spec P (powser)* that they offer here.
*credit goes to whoever said that in another thread.
You're welcome
:D
SC GT
08-17-2005, 11:58 AM
Yeah. The only bonus parts are the Legacy Brembos. No engine improvements, no 6 speed. Every other part is already available through an importer if you've got the bucks.
Even the Brembo's are available, if you want to drop $4-6K
tantal
08-17-2005, 12:43 PM
every single part on those cars is available through the STi catalog. I don't think those are new models as much as examples of what can be done through the parts catalog. Rims are $400/each, quad tip rear cans are $1400, front lip is $550, rear one is $650. I have been looking at those parts since I bought my car in Nov (and own the front lip). The power ratings are std. for the 2.0L JDM cars.
Sure, but you end up spending a ton more cash than if you just bought the thing from the factory. Makes more sense to step up to the 5-series at some point.
Sure, but you end up spending a ton more cash than if you just bought the thing from the factory. Makes more sense to step up to the 5-series at some point.
show me MSRP for this 'factory model' please.
Second Hint: It's a demo car to show what's available in the catalog.
fzanetti
08-17-2005, 03:21 PM
i really like the rims, and the double muffler tips on each side :D
+1 on the wheels....
Flavio Zanetti
Boston, MA
firedawgs
08-17-2005, 06:34 PM
My goal for my LGT is to make it a LGT STi, by switching the intercooler, intake, and tubro VF34. Making 300+whp and a big big smile.
tantal
08-17-2005, 06:35 PM
show me MSRP for this 'factory model' please.
Second Hint: It's a demo car to show what's available in the catalog.
Show me my full with extended warranty for my modded car, and it'd be great if you could pay the bills for the installs, too.
Yea, so thanks very much then! Is it easier if I just have it direct billed to you?
dennis72
08-17-2005, 09:36 PM
The legacy STi is finally released!
http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/LEGACY/catalog/index.html
enjoy!
apexjapan
08-17-2005, 09:43 PM
Well, the "Tuned by STi" Legacy. ;)
It's mainly suspension tuning, nothing really different towards the engine or transmission. Basically it is cheaper than buying all the separate parts yourself, assuming you *want* each and every separate part.
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
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apexjapan
08-17-2005, 09:50 PM
Almost all of the parts, with the exception of the exhaust cans on the rear, are bolted on suspension bits or interior accessories - not going to have many warranty claims or problems with those, realistically. The main benefit to this model is that you get every STi part in the catalog (which includes the brakes, as they are in the catalog as well) on a Legacy for a bit less than what you would pay for them separately. That is assuming you want every single STi part on your Legacy.
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
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turboWagon
08-17-2005, 09:55 PM
Yea, looks like all bolt on, nice to have brembo tho. Nice find!
tantal
08-17-2005, 10:23 PM
Almost all of the parts, with the exception of the exhaust cans on the rear, are bolted on suspension bits or interior accessories - not going to have many warranty claims or problems with those, realistically. The main benefit to this model is that you get every STi part in the catalog (which includes the brakes, as they are in the catalog as well) on a Legacy for a bit less than what you would pay for them separately. That is assuming you want every single STi part on your Legacy.
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
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Okay, smartass mode off. My point was, there is a big diff to those of us not "in the business" like you are. I know you make your living off this stuff, but I'm the guy with the family to support; not your family, mine :D
For me there is absolutely no comparison between being able to buy a fully warranted car off the lot and taking my car and modding it to exactly the same specs. I've paid twice for the same (sorta =) parts, I've paid a good mechanic to install the stuff (I use quality mechanics only), and now I have no warranty on a significant percentage of the car. My insurance goes up.
I am in no way saying other people shouldn't do these things, like always I'm just trying to 'splain my point of view. Do I mod my cars? Sure, but little stuff that's no big deal. Wheels & tires (although shitty wheels can screw your bearings, etc), chipped my A4, a sway bar, sure, but the SEMA stuff?? No farkin' way.
If I buy a $30k car and have to spend even $10k on it to get it to the way I want it, I'm not interested in the car. $40k buys some awesome new and even more awesome used cars, no mods needed, just maintenance. You can get a good mid-90's 911 for $40k. I'd MUCH rather have that car than a faster but modded GT. Either way, not much of warranty concern :D
Okay, sarcasm mode back on.
apexjapan
08-17-2005, 10:33 PM
Well, yeah, but the "Tuned by STi" Legacy is roughly 10-11 grand more dear than a base Legacy GT turbo here in Japan. If you factor in that, while you do get a warranty, you are still paying for every single part in the STi catalog, many of which you may not want (or can afford...).
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
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tantal
08-17-2005, 10:42 PM
Well, yeah, but the "Tuned by STi" Legacy is roughly 10-11 grand more dear than a base Legacy GT turbo here in Japan. If you factor in that, while you do get a warranty, you are still paying for every single part in the STi catalog, many of which you may not want (or can afford...).
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
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But after I pay for all the parts, and the dude to install it, how much less is it going to be? As I implied earlier, a $40k legacy, unless it has a dramatically improved suspension, I'm not interested in. I didn't buy this car for the track; it's my family hauler - as close to a minivan or stupid UV as my family will ever get. I don't get peeps taking 3500 lb cars like the GT, the old A4 (I have one of those too), even a 330, to the track to beat the shit out of it. I'd much rather take my miata to the track: (a) it will kick the ass of any of these cars as long as it's not an oval track (b) much cheaper all round (c) lots of fun even at low speeds.
I digress. Anyway, you are right, but I don't see much of a difference in cost either way, maybe save a few grand, but my point is that few grand you save may well get eaten up because you've screwed your warranty.
Subaru and mitsu have made a name for themselves refusing warranty claims for tracked cars over the last few years.
No thanks. But again, JMO, just my money, etc. I'm glad the option is there.
Leonardo
08-17-2005, 10:43 PM
They DO get an R180 rear diff, right?
GeorgeB
08-18-2005, 12:51 AM
show me MSRP for this 'factory model' please.
Second Hint: It's a demo car to show what's available in the catalog.
you can find the prices on that link, they are in jap currency though.
rfd425
08-18-2005, 01:49 AM
Since I can't read Japanese, can anyone tell me what the deal is? Is this a car you can buy complete from a dealer (in Japan, obviously)? What parts does it have that a JDM Spec B doesn't have? Are there any new parts that aren't already available from a source like AVO? What, if any, are the ramifications for the US market?
Are there any performance statistics available from any source that compare a car equipped with these STi parts to a JDM Spec B or a regular stock LGT? For example, has anyone compared lateral grip or slalom speeds, or braking distances?
I have to say that sedan looks pretty hot. I can see what my wife was talking about when she tried to talk me into getting Regal Blue instead of Atlantic Blue.
apexjapan
08-18-2005, 02:01 AM
I haven't seen any comparisons - hope to get one out eventually to get an idea, though. Since every part in it is bolt-on, the only parts not available through vendors like us is the ones that are too expensive, or too expensive to ship. ie, the wheels, or the seats.
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
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Anibalz
08-18-2005, 02:52 AM
Let's see if they release it in US.
GeorgeB
08-18-2005, 03:17 AM
cough cough , /me points -> http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=17258
enjoy
you can find the prices on that link, they are in jap currency though.
okay, what's the MSRP for the car? I know what all the prices are on the parts....I listed many in my first post. I am adept at translating these pages with my friend Babelfish, but I saw no MSRP in Yen ('jap' is not a good term to use, by the way...it's offensive to many).
apexjapan
08-18-2005, 05:32 AM
MSRP in Japan, Legacy B4 Sedan
5mt models: 3.78 million yen (after tax)
5a/t models: 3.85 million yen (after tax)
MSRP in Japan, Legacy Wagon
5mt models: 3.91 million yen (after tax)
5a/t models: 3.99 million yen (after tax)
Price of a base Legacy GT B4 sedan is roughly 2.74 million yen, going off what I paid for my car. It may have gone up a bit (or down a bit) since then.
Sportswagon "tuned by STi" price is pretty close to that of the S401 Legacy!
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
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GeorgeB
08-18-2005, 05:33 AM
sorry , YEN :) i'm not a native english speaker so be patient with me please.
jap = japonese, i mean no disrespect btw, it's just that i have a broken arm , and i type with only 1 arm :( i cut some words because of lack of time. sorry again.
B4 5MT : 3 780 000
B4 5AT : 3 853 000
SW 5MT : 3 916 500
SW 5AT : 3 990 000
http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/LEGACY/catalog/equipment/03/index.html
apexjapan2
08-18-2005, 09:52 AM
Well, the good news is that even in Japan, there are some limits to warrantees - and I can tell you that in the past, cars with "by STI" such as the S series cars have had <very> "limited" coverage. Unless things have changed, I expect that has not changed...
apexjapan2
08-18-2005, 10:17 AM
Since the handling has been downgraded on the later versions of the JDM Legacy, I bet it stops, turns and jigs better than any current std car (not difficult really). The dampers are adjustable in 4 steps, springs are upgraded too. That alone should get it back near or above the original A revision car (which would kick the a55 of any of the later cars in handling terms, and stops shorter too). Since the rear cans don't really add any performance that we could tell, most of the benefits are going to be from the suspenders and brakes.
At high speeds those aero bits, will, of course help some as they make the nose zero lift. The trunk lip spoiler takes the B4 rear axle to the being just about lift neutral at high speeds too.
For the moeny demanded, one has to wonder how many will be sold - they are seriously spendy!! <IMHO of course>
godwhomismike
08-18-2005, 10:46 AM
If it comes here, SOA will probably force you to get a beige leather interior with either of the blue ones :rolleyes:
tantal
08-18-2005, 11:09 AM
If it comes here, SOA will probably force you to get a beige leather interior with either of the blue ones :rolleyes:
LOL you're right.
Lucky me though I like that combo. :D The subaru black looks blue to me, but so did audi's of the late 90's. Must have something wrong with my eyes.
KayGT
08-18-2005, 12:15 PM
all i have to say is that that has to be one of the sexiest sedans i have seen in my entire life.
Paul, theoretically, if we DID want to purchase the seats
a) How much would it cost (including shipping)
b) Would they work in the US system without causing Airbag problems or whatever.
c) Would they work in a US wagon?
Thanks!
-Allen
mbonus
08-18-2005, 03:47 PM
all i have to say is that that has to be one of the sexiest sedans i have seen in my entire life.
agreed! :dm:
j255c
08-18-2005, 04:30 PM
7000rpm redline!!
Flanders
08-18-2005, 04:35 PM
I thought the cost of the seats had been posted. $3200 sounds familiar but that could have been ofr a different model.
thought this sounded familiar - merged threads. Moved to 'Subaru News'
apexjapan
08-18-2005, 07:54 PM
Ouch, wow - the seats are 357,000yen per side. And they actually have the balls to charge another $90 for the wiring harness. :o
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
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Ouch, wow - the seats are 357,000yen per side. And they actually have the balls to charge another $90 for the wiring harness. :o
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
www.avoturboworld.com | www.sevenphotos.com | www.scoobymag.com
$3200/seat?? :eek: Hope they have integrated heated massagers with optional happy ending.
fzanetti
08-19-2005, 07:31 AM
If it comes here, SOA will probably force you to get a beige leather interior with either of the blue ones :rolleyes:
Beige leather??? hahahahh it's just tacky, but I guess once this car is made here, and people here like beige (something you don't see in Japan or Europe btw)
:lol::lol::lol:
Flavio Zanetti
Boston, MA
skibum
08-19-2005, 03:35 PM
every single part on those cars is available through the STi catalog.
I think the 2.5 Litre at Stage 1 is a better setup than the 2.0 litre as described here. Nothing special here (same drivetrain as the Forester STi in Asia). They need to offer the 6-speed manual with the 300HP 2.5L, period. Now THAT would be an STi Legacy.
Han'sGT
08-19-2005, 03:49 PM
I think the 2.5 Litre at Stage 1 is a better setup than the 2.0 litre as described here. Nothing special here (same drivetrain as the Forester STi in Asia). They need to offer the 6-speed manual with the 300HP 2.5L, period. Now THAT would be an STi Legacy.
Make it a turbo charged H6 with 350hp :D
sportwagon
08-19-2005, 10:32 PM
six speed would do it for me... otherwise I'm more than halfway there!
IwannaSportSedan
08-20-2005, 11:16 PM
ANOTHER WR BLUE JDM edition???
I'd buy the damn thing just for the paint, the rest would be a nice bonus.
Other than that, I'll build the equal or better than that car myself. It does seem to be a catalog car. 7k rpm I believe is common to the 2.0 Twin-scroll, and almost every other boxer, besides the USDM 2.5T in the Legacy GT.
BUUUUUUT, since SOA won't sell me what I want to buy... I have to choose.
05-06 Black on black GT Limited 5MT sedan with the 06 USDM Spec B's red leather interior added.
OR
05 RBP on Black GT Limited 5MT sedan, with blue alcantara inserts and red stitching in the seats, and door panels. Somewhat like the 04 JDM WR Limited GT Spec B.
Now, if somebody would mold up some replacements for the console and door trims with black or silver carbon fiber pieces... that would be slick.
Performance wise, I figure a setup like PDXTuning, with a nice big turbo, FMIC, etc. I would love to see somebody fab a top mount airbox to replace the TMIC, when going to a FMIC setup.
To round out the mods: Borla headers, good up and down pipes for the turbo, a single high-flow cat, and nice open cat-back exhaust, coil overs and sway bars, Brembo brakes, and nice BBS rims with good tires. A 6MT from a OZ Legacy 3.0R Spec B would be nice, but very hard to come by in the US.
A few nice STi bits, maybe even the WRX STi's red crinkle-painted valve covers, etc. And some mild STi badging to go along with it, and a K2 Riez (M5-look) body kit. Yep, that is the ticket for me, until or unless Subaru execs pull their collective heads out...
rickster
08-21-2005, 04:44 PM
I love that car!! I've been craving an LGT for awhile now & would love to get one like that here in the states. I am curious to know why none of their sedans here in the states come equipped with the rear windshield wiper. Personally, I think it's a great idea, but I just don't see them here.
JOSHMAN
08-21-2005, 06:55 PM
Man, I'm a sucker for WRB too.
I've been eyeing this Brat down the road from me and was thinking of buying it and painting it WRB. Love that color!
fazzster
08-21-2005, 06:56 PM
Just buy some STi decals....
SUBY3
08-23-2005, 12:38 PM
My goal for my LGT is to make it a LGT STi, by switching the intercooler, intake, and tubro VF34. Making 300+whp and a big big smile.
I got 305/350 at the crank and I didnt swap anything.
I use to have an STI before I traded it in on a Legacy.
I think a stage 2 legacy will pull on a stock STI.
I feel that the VF40 and the current IC are far superior to the VF34 and STI IC.
BTW there is no way you will make 300 @ the wheels with a VF34.
I do however see the novelty behind swapping out the IC, turbo and Manifold.
Just my 2 cents.
agctr
08-23-2005, 07:19 PM
No doubt everything exposed on those GT's can be purchased in the Subaru catalog.... SO I have to ask.... Why THE IKE.... cant Subaru sell these GT's around the world to their other leading markets such as Australia, Canada, New Zealand, USA and HK to name a few. I just DONT understand why why why they only make these vehicles for their own domestic market. Imagine if Ferrari only sold ppl movers to external countries outside of Europe, they wouldnt last long.
Carn Subaru, stop teasing and start fielding some REAL surveys to ppl who want this level of Sports Car.
Ada///M.
I want that front bumper! BAD!
Soooooo sexy..... want to touch the......
apexjapan2
08-27-2005, 01:32 AM
Just note: those Recaros do NOT have SABs, and as such would stuff with your insurance quite badly.
And Adam, Subaru still has internally perceived probs selling hi-buck cars here (hence their being LEs), so exporting them is a large leap of faith. If the spec B does well in the US, it may yet happen that LEs get exported, too.
Leonardo
08-27-2005, 05:22 PM
They DO get an R180 rear diff, right?
I dont think it looks that good.... I like the front bumper though
jj808
08-27-2005, 08:15 PM
And Adam, Subaru still has internally perceived probs selling hi-buck cars here (hence their being LEs), so exporting them is a large leap of faith. If the spec B does well in the US, it may yet happen that LEs get exported, too.
What problems? Is there still left over weariness fm the 1970s-80s fuel shortage? Im just curious thats all. =)
sebberry
08-27-2005, 08:54 PM
I wonder why they haven't thought to turbo the H6 and toss that in a legacy yet...
2Simpletons
08-31-2005, 06:15 PM
Or at least stick the 6-spd/2.5L STi combo in the LGT. Sheesh that would rock.
IwannaSportSedan
09-01-2005, 10:12 AM
amen brother.
I would buy a WR Blue 2.5 GT Sedan with a taller-geared 6MT/VTD-AWD (like the overseas Legacy 3.0 Spec B gets, not as short-geared as the WRX STi.) and bilstein struts/springs, 20mm rear swaybar, and aluminum control arms in a heartbeat.
IF that was the Spec B limited edition, I would be first in line, and singing Subaru's praises about it. But alas, neither is the case.
Heck, in a perfect world, that is how the GT Limited should be equipped, standard.
agctr
09-01-2005, 08:00 PM
So is this STi Tuned Edition 6MT or 5MT ?? I shudder at the real answer......
Ada///M.
SubieDriver
09-01-2005, 09:05 PM
So is this STi Tuned Edition 6MT or 5MT ?? I shudder at the real answer......
Ada///M.
It's 5MT - it only has STi bolt-ons - no major part swappage. It's not an STi version, just "tuned" by STi with aftermarket parts.
Tim
bjmsdrum00
09-03-2005, 02:25 PM
i thought that i read somewhere that they did up the 6-speed gearbox in the limited edition legacy STI??
SubieDriver
09-03-2005, 04:07 PM
i thought that i read somewhere that they did up the 6-speed gearbox in the limited edition legacy STI??
The Legacy STi that we're rumored to get in 2007, yes, it is rumored to have a 6-spd. The Legacy "tuned by STi" is just a regular Legacy GT with bolt-ons. Unless it's the Legacy 3.0R (which we don't get), with STi bolt-ons - the 3.0R comes with the 6-spd.
Maybe, just maybe, the reason they've dropped the 5MT on some US models is because they're thinking of bringing the 3.0R here. That would be great!
But then, I'm just starting rumors....
Tim
agctr
09-03-2005, 06:30 PM
From the information I have recieved also is, because we only get the 2.0L, there is a lot more torque gain by using the 5MT rather than the 6MT. The WRXSTi is running a 2.5 where the STi Legacy will only run a 2.0L here in Oz including Japan and NZ.
Ada///M.
SubieDriver
09-03-2005, 08:10 PM
From the information I have recieved also is, because we only get the 2.0L, there is a lot more torque gain by using the 5MT rather than the 6MT. The WRXSTi is running a 2.5 where the STi Legacy will only run a 2.0L here in Oz including Japan and NZ.
Ada///M.
Technically speaking, since a 5-speed transmission's ratios are further apart, it would mate well with an engine that has a wide torque curve. The 6-speed, with its closer ratios, mates well with an engine that has a narrower torque curve, to make it easier to keep the engine in its sweet spot.
So, rather than mating the 5-speed to the 2.0, just the opposite would make the most sense - the smaller turbo engines generally have a narrower power/torque band, so they offer the 6-spd tranny to make it easier to keep the engine in the meaty part of the torque curve.
Also, the Legacy/Liberty 3.0 6-cylinder makes less torgue than the 2.5 turbo (250 hp/250 lbs/ft torque, while the 3.0 is 250 hp/ 219 lbs/ft torque) so that's why they give the 3.0R the 6-spd transmission. All the better to keep it near its power peak.
The Subaru people figured the US-spec 2.5 turbo in the Legacy had a broad enough powerband to not need the closer ratios of the 6-speed, while the 2.5 turbo in the Impreza STi, even though it's basically the same 2.5 turbo engine, is tuned to give a higher peak horsepower, but that comes at the expense of narrowing the powerband (and pushing it higher in the rev range), thus necessitating the 6-speed transmission to make best use of that narrower powerband.
So, if Oz is getting a 2.0 Legacy STi, it only makes sense to put the 6-speed in it, rather than the 5-speed.
Make sense mate?
If the rumored twin-turbo 3.0 Legacy STi comes to the US, the preceding facts would indicate that it would make sense to give it a 5-speed transmission, since it ought to have an even broader powerband than the Legacy-spec turbo 2.5, but I would think that they would toss in the 6-speed just because so many other carmakers are providing it as an option on their cars.
What Subaru should do is spread out the US twin-turbo Legacy STi 6-speed ratios from what the Impreza STi 6-speed has, because of the broader powerband - that should give us lowering cruising RPMs, thereby giving us a less nervous ride at cruising speed, as well as giving better gas mileage.
That would make the most sense to me.
Tim
j255c
09-10-2005, 03:36 PM
no fair, they have an all black interior..
ih8vtec13
09-10-2005, 03:41 PM
Wow after seeing what they are doing the Legacy STi is actually quite a depressing let down :(
agctr
09-10-2005, 05:56 PM
I totally disagree, I believe if this very same vehicle was being sold in the US or Canada, it would sell very well. More lucky us I suppose.....
Ada///M.
PS.... Has ANYONE seen or have links for the interior of the LSTi ? TIA
ih8vtec13
09-10-2005, 06:05 PM
I totally disagree, I believe if this very same vehicle was being sold in the US or Canada, it would sell very well. More lucky us I suppose.....
Ada///M.
PS.... Has ANYONE seen or have links for the interior of the LSTi ? TIA
I'm not saying that it wont sell well I'm just saying that the wrx STi over here is a badass litle car with 300hp, no sound deadening watersprayer, ect. I was just hoping to se them top it or at least be even with it in the Legacy.
agctr
09-10-2005, 06:10 PM
Well yes I do see your point I have to admit. We will be getting the 2.0L here with only 280HP. For mine, thats not bad for a 2.0L. Yes the LibertySTi wont have x y & z but certainly its not a bad upgrade from the stocker GT. With only 300 going to be available in Australia, I would say they will hold their value very well too. Im sure if you visited the STi lads at Docklands here in Melbourne, Im 100% they would be able to rip the boost up to give you some very impressive figures.
Ada///M = Adam.