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EJ20H-TT
01-05-2004, 04:43 PM
Subaru Introduces All-New 250-Horsepower Legacy(R) 2.5 GT for 2005; Turbocharged Sedan and Wagon Spearhead Fourth-Generation Legacy Line
Monday January 5, 3:20 pm ET
DETROIT, Jan. 5 /PRNewswire/ -- Subaru of America, Inc., the only car company that provides Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive as standard equipment on every vehicle in its product line, has introduced the 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT Sedan and Wagon. The most powerful Legacy ever offered in the U.S. market, the 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT is powered by a new 250-horsepower intercooled / turbocharged boxer engine.
(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20040105/PHM012A )
The 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT will lead a thoroughly revised model line that will include the Legacy 2.5 GT Limited Sedan and Wagon, which feature additional luxury content. Legacy 2.5i and Legacy 2.5i Limited models, both available as a sedan and wagon, are powered by a naturally aspirated 2.5-liter boxer engine that provides enhanced response for 2005.
With a distinctive fusion of style, performance and function, Legacy 2.5 GT will deliver on the promise of a premium driving performance experience. "The 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT is designed to provide the kind of `sensuous performance' that truly sets it apart from mainstream models," said Fred Adcock, Executive Vice President, Subaru of America, Inc. "Legacy 2.5 GT has been designed to give the driver the kind of power, performance and control that instills premium performance cars with distinct and memorable brand identity," he added.
Built on a new version of the company's proven Ring-Shaped Reinforcement Frame safety structure, the 2005 Legacy models will feature as standard equipment side impact air bags, new side curtain air bags and new intelligent dual-stage deployment front air bags.
Subaru designed the fourth-generation Legacy to express its more dynamic performance and nimbleness. The pronounced wedge body shape conveys a low and stable presence, accentuated by aerodynamic side ground effects and standard 17-inch alloy wheels on Legacy 2.5 GT and 16-inch alloy wheels on other Legacy models.
The wheelbase of the 2005 Legacy has been increased from 104.3 inches to 105.1 inches and overall length has been increased by just under two inches for the sedan and wagon models. The sedan registers a coefficient of drag (Cd) of 0.28 and the wagon 0.30. A functional hood scoop supplies outside air to the engine-mounted intercooler.
High-Performance Intercooled / Turbocharged Engine
The 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT is powered by an intercooled and turbocharged 2.5-liter 4-cylinder boxer engine featuring Active Valve Control System (AVCS) variable valve timing technology. The engine produces 250 horsepower @ 5,600 rpm and 250 lb-ft. of peak torque @ 3,600 rpm.
The 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT will offer a choice between a smooth-shifting 5-speed manual transmission or an all-new 5-speed electronic direct control automatic transmission with the SPORTSHIFT feature for manual control when desired. The driver can choose to shift manually using the console shift handle or shift buttons on the MOMOŽ-designed steering wheel.
Performance-Bred Chassis
A new, stiffer unitized body structure makes greater use of aluminum and high-strength steel, as well as advanced construction techniques including hydroforming and tailored-blank welding. Suspension, braking and steering have been optimized to complement the powertrain performance in Legacy 2.5 GT. The proven MacPherson type strut front suspension uses all new components, including aluminum lower L-arms that reduce unsprung weight. The multilink rear suspension attaches to a new, hydroformed steel sub-frame for added rigidity. A wider track and revised geometry enhance handling and stability.
A 4-wheel disc Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) is standard equipment on all 2005 Legacy models. Legacy 2.5 GT features larger front brake rotors than other Legacy models, as well as ventilated rear discs (solid discs on other models). Legacy 2.5 GT models roll on standard 17 x 7-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with 215/45 R17 all-season tires. The rack-and-pinion steering system has been redesigned for quicker response, greater precision and improved feel.
Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive
Subaru offers three different Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive systems in the 2005 Legacy models, each tailored to the type of transmission. With the 5-speed manual transmission, the system uses a viscous-coupling locking center differential to distribute the power 50/50 front to rear. Slippage at either set of wheels will send more power to the other set of wheels.
Legacy 2.5 GT models equipped with the optional 5-speed automatic transmission use a system called Variable Torque Distribution (VTD). A planetary center differential works with an electronically controlled continuously variable hydraulic transfer clutch to manage power distribution. The system normally sends more power to the rear wheels to enhance handling agility, and it continuously adjusts the power distribution in response to driving and road conditions.
Legacy 2.5i and Legacy 2.5i Limited models will offer an optional 4-speed automatic transmission, with an AWD system that uses an electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch to actively control power distribution in response to driving conditions.
All-New Interior Designed for True Grand Touring
The new Legacy interior design integrates the entire area from the instrument panel and large center panel to the console storage box. The sporty new four-dial instrument panel features an electroluminescent LED (light-emitting diode) gauge display in Legacy 2.5 GT. Standard equipment for the 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT includes a dual-zone automatic climate control system, a combination digital clock and trip computer, performance-design front seats with 4-stage heating and heated exterior mirrors. The standard audio system includes a 120-watt AM/FM stereo, a 6-disc in-dash CD changer and six speakers.
Legacy 2.5 GT Limited models add leather-trimmed upholstery, an 8-way power driver's seat and a 4-way power passenger seat. A glass power moonroof is standard on all Legacy GT Limited and Legacy 2.5i Limited models. The dual-panel moonroof on wagon models provides a single large opening when the tilt-up front section and retracting rear section are opened.
EJ20H-TT
01-05-2004, 05:14 PM
To give a quick comparision vs the JDM specs
USDM 2.5 GT
250hp @ 5600 rpm
250 lb @ 3600 rpm
JDM 2.0 GT
276hp @ 6400 rpm
253 lb @ 2400 rpm
However i suspect the USDM 2.5 GT has more potential.
sti_owner
01-05-2004, 05:32 PM
Well, no reason to sell the STI yet. Maybe in another two years they'll see there is a market for a 320 HP Legacy. :)
Gumby
01-05-2004, 05:37 PM
I'm going to need to see in the flesh and drive before parting with my WRX Wagon but it sure looks sweet 8)
I'm in the same boat. I really enjoy my current WRX (and its modded 300+hp), but want the posh leather and DVD navigation the Legacy offers. Im most like going to hold out until the 2006 model year to see if they make sneak over a more powerful engine. It also gives the performance community some time to tinker and get mods available.
Is it the same 2.5 as the US Sti?
Gumby
01-05-2004, 06:11 PM
It's my understanding that the Turbo Forrester engine has the same internals as the STi but different Turbo, Intercooler, ECU, Exhaust etc. I'm therefore assuming that the Turbo Legacy 2.5 is kind of a middle ground between the 210hp of the XT and the 300hp STi.
Check this out: [/url]www.need-desire.com
Notice the reference to Reinforced 5 speed transmission
Gumby
01-05-2004, 06:14 PM
Im most like going to hold out until the 2006 model year to see if they make sneak over a more powerful engine.
It's also not a bad idea to wait for the second model year in order to clear up any teething problems. I made the mistake of buying a 2000 Volvo V40 (first US model year) big bloody trouble.
http://autoshow.msn.com/as/autoshow2004/article.aspx?xml=Subaru2&src=autoshow2004
Story from MSN with photos.
EJ20H-TT
01-05-2004, 07:38 PM
I'm in the same boat. I really enjoy my current WRX (and its modded 300+hp), but want the posh leather and DVD navigation the Legacy offers. Im most like going to hold out until the 2006 model year to see if they make sneak over a more powerful engine. It also gives the performance community some time to tinker and get mods available.
Is it the same 2.5 as the US Sti?
In regards power one should remember the power curve and not just worry about peak power.
I doubt that Subaru will ever produce a Legacy Sti with more power than the Sti. 6 speed is very likely though.
EJ20H-TT
01-05-2004, 07:41 PM
It's also not a bad idea to wait for the second model year in order to clear up any teething problems. I made the mistake of buying a 2000 Volvo V40 (first US model year) big bloody trouble.
The Japanese don't seem to suffer from this prob as designs are more evolutionary.
EJ20H-TT
01-05-2004, 07:43 PM
Well, no reason to sell the STI yet. Maybe in another two years they'll see there is a market for a 320 HP Legacy. :)
Subaru currently view the WRX Sti to be the flagship performance model so that seems unlikely.
Unless u see a 320hp WRX Sti come out :D
sti_owner
01-06-2004, 12:55 PM
320 HP STi? Probably the same day Mistu announces a 300 HP Evo for the US. :lol:
team23jordan
01-06-2004, 08:45 PM
i personally dont think
SOA will modify things for 06 model
maybe just little things like add one more cup holder or something
but nothin big...(they never done that before)
Dr. Zevil
01-09-2004, 01:14 PM
I think the 250/250 announcement by subaru is an under-estimate of it's power. Just like the Forester XT, I think there is more under the hood than subaru is letting on. Which is nice ;)
EJ20H-TT
01-09-2004, 01:21 PM
I agree - no one at Suabru want to do what Mazda did with the RX-8
I agree - no one at Suabru want to do what Mazda did with the RX-8LOL!
Plus 250/250 sounds nice.
AMT4SWA
01-09-2004, 01:46 PM
Many of the new Volvo S60 R/V70 R owners are in that same disappointing boat as the RX-8 customers are. They have a wide range of true horsepower numbers (mainly the AT models...GearTronic), and many of the cars have a lower limited top speed (130) than Volvo advertised top speed (155). Not a very good way to luanch a new HIGH priced product line ($42,000 to $49,000 current selling price range depending on options list). I was all ready to dump my IS 300 (not enough power...otherwise very good car) and buy the S60 R, but reading all the tech problems had me start doing more research...then I find out about the Legacy GT...SWEEEET! :shock:
BTW, yes Tide in a 3200 lbs car 250/250 is very good!!! 8)
Gumby
01-09-2004, 01:56 PM
250/250 looks rounded off, maybe the actual figures are in the 250's but rounded down.
Dr. Zevil
01-09-2004, 02:18 PM
That might not be the case, the Forester XT dynos MUCH higher than it's advertised HP. If this car dynos higher too then it's obvious that Subaru is trying to keep it's product lines marketable. It's hard to justify spending $30K for the STi if you could get that kind of power in a $27K sedan or wagon. Not saying this is the case, but it makes sense in some respects.
The XT dynos a good 20-30 HP more than it's advertised HP. Makes you think about what this legacy is capable of.
AMT4SWA
01-09-2004, 02:20 PM
I have a strong feeling these cars will dyno stock very nicely after the break in period....... :D :D :D I think we will all be very pleased! 8)
dark_rex
01-09-2004, 02:33 PM
i personally dont think
SOA will modify things for 06 model
maybe just little things like add one more cup holder or something
but nothin big...(they never done that before)
but they may hint at the possibility of an STi version in the future, much like they did w/ the STi Impreza.
I think that's what he's getting at.
dR
Gumby
01-09-2004, 03:17 PM
The XT dynos a good 20-30 HP more than it's advertised HP. Makes you think about what this legacy is capable of.
And when we get detailed engine specs we'll know more. The XT runs 11.6 PSI of boost on the same Turbo as the WRX, the new Legacy press release claims it runs 13.5 psi but on what turbo :?: If it's the same turbo then >250 makes sense assuming all other things are equal.
dark_rex
01-09-2004, 03:52 PM
the WRX TD-04L isn't really capable of pushing much more than 300 crank on the 2.0L. and that's already pushing it's efficiency range and life pretty hard.
i'm hoping they are going with an IHI series. lot more upside potential, and a lot more bolt on options. :D
the mitsu turbos are all frankensteins now.
gtguy
01-09-2004, 04:59 PM
Just wanted to say hey. I'm from the NASIOC board, where the new Legacy is the topic of much contentious debate, which is why I'm here. :lol:
Now, sales of the Legacy GT will do much for the possibility of a Legacy STi, just as the excellent sales of the WRX helped seal the deal for an Impreza STi.
The rumors of a 320hp, turbocharged H6 car are precisely that. The JDM STi Legacy doesn't make much more horsepower than their 280hp Legacy, but it is the brake and suspension settings that make the mojo work for that car.
If we do see an STi Legacy, it will probably make about as much horsepower as the Impreza STi, but in a larger, more luxe package. But as it will be sedan only, my 2005 Legacy GT wagon (silver, please) and I will wave whenever we see a Legacy STi.
There has been some speculative extrapolation regarding the 250hp figure, based on (again unknown) weight figures, etc, that put the horsepower at more like 280, and torque somewhere north of 250. Who knows, and who will know until we get to look at, and drive the beast.
Kevin
Dr. Zevil
01-09-2004, 06:31 PM
Kevin! 'sup, I have seen you post quite a bit on NASIOC. I was waiting to see some of the Legacy freaks to make thier way over here! Good to see you made it. To anyone who doesn't know Kevin he is one of the sensible ones on the other board! Very cool...
Dr. Zevil
01-09-2004, 06:31 PM
... and if I remembered correctly you have tried just about EVERY suspension combination on you WRX.
team23jordan
01-09-2004, 06:50 PM
who do yall think will buy this car??
like age group
i'm 18 right now
i work during week days
and i have detailing buisness during weekend
i have 15G in my bank account to put down as a "downpayments" when car comes out...and i'm gettin a GT sedan 8)
and monthlypayment will be payed by me every month :)
i think teenagers and 20~28 will buy this car if they have $$$$$ to buy it
but what age group is subaru targeting at??
EJ20H-TT
01-09-2004, 06:55 PM
I would think the GT would be more popular with an older subaru owners 25+. Family etc need more room.
Dr. Zevil
01-09-2004, 07:02 PM
I seriously don't think that this will be a car that will appeal to the average teenager. It doesn't have that fast and furious appeal that I think a lot of younger people like. It's more of a refined sleeper that could blow the doors off most cars from a light. fyi I am 27.
EJ20H-TT
01-09-2004, 07:08 PM
With the Sti a similar price i suspect the younger buyers would prefer a WRC-like racer than a sleeper.
AMT4SWA
01-09-2004, 09:47 PM
I can tell you that a lot of IS300 and Acura TL (older TL...not the "04" model) owners are paying attention to this car. The FWD and even the RWD crowd are starting to "get it" for the benefits of an AWD performance sedan (S60 AWD, G35 AWD, A4 QT, 330ix, etc...). With the new 05 Legacy GT, I feel that Subaru will grab a large market share right off the bat with this cars introduction. The European car owners will take some time to cross over to a Japanese designed (exterior) car...stubborn as heck they are (SAAB, Volvo, Audi, and Bemmer forums continual anti-Japanese car comments). In the end, I feel the total package that Subaru will bring with the new Legacy at an amazing price (compared to overpriced euro cars), will pierce into the market share of some of the European car manufactures. The current Lexus/Acura crowd will come over in large numbers right at the onset IMO...they already know the Japanese product and they trust it. There is a large number of 2, 3, and 4 year old cars from Lexus/Acura owners (IS300/TL/CL), who are out checking what is available to them at this time...many are talking about the new Legacy as a front runner for a replacement. My opinion is that Subaru is now standing at the plate, about to smack a HOMER!
gtguy
01-09-2004, 11:52 PM
who do yall think will buy this car??
like age group
i'm 18 right now
i work during week days
and i have detailing buisness during weekend
i have 15G in my bank account to put down as a "downpayments" when car comes out...and i'm gettin a GT sedan 8)
and monthlypayment will be payed by me every month :)
i think teenagers and 20~28 will buy this car if they have $$$$$ to buy it
but what age group is subaru targeting at??
Hey, Dr. Zevil. Not quite EVERY suspension combination, but too many for a lad with air tools and too much free time, that's for sure...
I don't think that Subaru is as much targeting the Legacy at any specific marketing niche as much as they are hoping that people will come to the car. I do think they want "conquest" sales, that is, people who used to support other marques, or were considering other marques.
We Subaru devotees know how good the cars are. But this Legacy might be the first car that actually convinces the general public. If you think about it, the WRX was an excellent value, but not really ready for prime-time, as in being an adult car, as much as people might quibble about that. Ditto for the STi.
The Legacy, however, is great-looking, refined, as luxe as it needs to be, light, and fast. It should make for a great driving package that, if people can get over their fear of turbo cars ("Don't those things blow up?"), should do awfully, awfully well.
The other strength in the Legacy's favor is standard equipment. In perusing the list, about the only thing I could think of that wasn't standard was a compass mirror and bumper cover for the wagon. This mimics the experience of my '98 GT (hence the screen name), which came fully equipped with everything, including sunroof. I didn't have to choose a single option. The impressive list of standard features, combined with what should be around $27K for the GT, means it should be a winner.
Kevin
team23jordan
01-10-2004, 01:34 AM
^word
ryanrlamothe
01-11-2004, 04:45 AM
With the Sti a similar price i suspect the younger buyers would prefer a WRC-like racer than a sleeper.
What is interesting is reality. Not to point out your post above out of any of the the other posts with the same wierd logic, but I know a lot of people both personally/autocrossing/rallycrossing/club rally/prorally who drive their STi's and Evo's every single day. The ages of these people range from 26-50. The CEO of an electric cooperative north of my city, who is a member of the sports car club (SCCA) in my city, drives his STi everywhere and he loves it. He is in his early 50's. The president of the sports car club here in my city is in his late 50's and every day drives a striking blue Honda Civic EX VTEC and he loves it,
Age has nothing to do with a vehicle's appeal. It is truly 100% personality types. That's reality.
Just the other day, the WRX goes flying past me and is driving agressively through town, so I proceed to follow. After a couple of miles, the WRX turns off into a driveway. As I drive by, what do I see??? A whitehair!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers.
legacy2ner
01-11-2004, 05:13 AM
I was wondering what about the 3.0R model that in other countrys besides the US. What numbers does that pull. Are they going to bring us that model.
http://www.subaru-global.com/lineup/legacy/sedan/technology/engine.html
legacy2ner
01-11-2004, 05:15 AM
I forgot what site but it said to have torque # in the 260's
jcme262
01-11-2004, 07:50 PM
Alright Iv'e done my searches and I realize this is a new board but what do you suppose this thing is going to MSRP for.
EJ20H-TT
01-11-2004, 08:01 PM
People have lots of ideas but I would hazzard a guess at STi prices - perhaps a tad less.
goneskiian
01-11-2004, 08:43 PM
Hey Zevil and Kevin!
I've been growing increasingly sick of all the complainin' on NASIOC as well. I really appreciated reading your level headed posts. This is looking like a great site for us Legacy folks.
On the pricing front I'm going with somewhere between $27k and $29k.
BTW I'm 32 and I can't wait for my silver wagon!
-Ian
PPower
01-11-2004, 10:54 PM
No need to quote the specific comments above, but no car is ever produced without the marketing department having a specific target in mind. If you have not been educated in marketing, you may disagree, but you are wrong. :P However, I'll first give a few examples where the intended audience ended up being different than the actual buyers. The two that come to mind are the Baja and the Honda Element. Both wanted to target younger buyers and especially active lifestyles like surfers. I continually see ads for both in surfing magazines yet I don't ever hear of a surfer driving one (though the Element is much more fitting). The actual buyers of both have been older than expected as I believe that the median (50th percentile) age between 45-50. That's probably about 15 years older than they intended.
The Legacy will definitely be targeting an older age group than what the WRX will be, but that doesn't mean that younger people won't snatch it up. I'm sure that the Forester XT was intended to snatch sales away from the WRX wagon and get 20-something males to buy one, but it is happening to an extent. With getting a performance edge to the Legacy, I'm sure that Subaru is trying to lower the average age of their customer base. Getting sporty will lower while going more comfy/luxury/$$ will increase that age. I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that the median age of the Legacy is about 45, and I think that they are probably going to be targeting a 35-40 as the new median age. Though MSRP dependent, my guess is that with its better performance, the Legacy is going to really steal the thunder from the Impreza and attract a lot of younger buyers than normally intended over the next couple of years so this may be skewed to the downward side in these next couple of years. Once the Impreza is redesigned, loses weight, and becomes faster than the Legacy, youngsters (under 30) will go back to majority "support" of the Impreza. Also keep in mind that those of us on these boards are not indicative of the normal owner. We're freaks! Outliers from the norm. For a more but not totally accurate Subaru owner profile, go to edmunds.com to their subaru forum.
There seems to be this common misconception that the Evo and STi are targeted at young people. In reality, the percentage of people under 25 especially who can truly afford a $30,000 car is very small. Yes, it attracts the very young because they are used to seeing it in WRC and Gran Tourismo. Mitsubishi tried focusing their attention on selling new cars to young people, and now they have to pull out of US motorsports and focus on recouping their millions and millions of bad debt from youngsters who got in over their heads. I think the number of over-35 STi/Evo owners would surprise many.
SUBE555
01-11-2004, 11:22 PM
Oh no, not Lamothe! :shock:
EJ20H-TT
01-11-2004, 11:22 PM
Perhaps it would be better put that youngsters aspire to own an Sti.
They may actually buy RS or WRX instead.
It also helps hold the value of secondhand cars too.
I see the older Impreza owner as a natural buyer of the legacy a larger more refined vehicle.
f1anatic
12-28-2007, 06:42 PM
Is this car any good ?
not as good as you experimental G35x wagon.
Bbc84
12-28-2007, 06:54 PM
Is this car any good ?
Nope this car is no good, Spec B is the one u want :lol:
whitetiger
12-28-2007, 07:01 PM
holy old tread bump batman
Richard B.
12-28-2007, 10:24 PM
you think i can trade in my 07 gt with 17k miles for a brand new 05 gt?
oh and...
bump.
loserpro2
12-28-2007, 11:25 PM
holy old tread bump batman
+1 :lol:
Nope this car is no good, Spec B is the one u want :lol:
no! you want the 05 Spec B STi S402 - which doesn't really exist....
Jacks GT
12-28-2007, 11:34 PM
Im really interested in this spec b sti thing please tell me more:p does it come in wagon version:rolleyes:
SLegacy99
12-28-2007, 11:35 PM
Im predicting that alot of people will be unhappy that there is no Legacy that offers the power of an Impreza STi.
Is this car any good ?
Dunno yet, they're still too new to say for sure.
Richard B.
12-29-2007, 12:00 AM
Dunno yet, they're still too new to say for sure.
yeah. the bugs will prolly need to get worked out. i hear stutering may be an issue. if i were the op i would wait till the new 04's come out.
loserpro2
12-29-2007, 12:30 AM
Im really interested in this spec b sti thing please tell me more:p does it come in wagon version:rolleyes:
:lol:
the spec b sti thingy is supposed to be an even more hardcore version of the spec b sti - which also doesn't exist;).
we have to wait until mid 2004 to know if they will give the wagon version a chance.:eek:
:lol:
redpill66
12-29-2007, 01:12 AM
Think I might wait a couple model years before I buy one.
Impulse
12-29-2007, 08:59 AM
whats a legacy?
Scotty
12-29-2007, 09:40 AM
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jonnyg113
01-22-2008, 11:17 PM
hi
f1anatic
01-23-2008, 07:55 AM
awesome, i want this car, to replace my G35 wagon
lucas569
01-23-2008, 08:31 AM
my 05 gets newer every year!
hakuna matata bitches!
jagcars26
01-23-2008, 08:40 AM
I'd hit it!
Gasaraki
01-23-2008, 11:44 AM
WTH?!? Why is this near the top?
lucas569
01-23-2008, 11:47 AM
cause dummies like us keep posting! ;)
ehsnils
01-23-2008, 12:23 PM
I was wondering what about the 3.0R model that in other countrys besides the US. What numbers does that pull. Are they going to bring us that model.
http://www.subaru-global.com/lineup/legacy/sedan/technology/engine.html
Swedish 3.0R comes in three versions; "3.0R 5AT SPORTSHIFT", "3.0R spec B 6MT" and "3.0R spec B 5AT SPORTSHIFT" (available as either Sedan or Wagon)
Bring out the calculator if you want non-metric figures...
Figures in same order as versions specified above.
Weight, Sedan (kg) 1590/1610/1620
Weight, Wagon (kg) 1620/1640/1650
Power 245@6600
Torque 297@4200
Max speed (km/h) 237/243/237
Fuel consumption Sedan (l/100km)
City 13.8/17.6/13.8
Road 7.4/8.9/7.4
Mixed 9.8/12.1/9.8
Fuel consumption Wagon (l/100km)
City 13.8/17.6/13.8
Road 7.4/9.1/7.4
Mixed 9.8/12.3/9.8
Fuel consumption figures according to manufacturer, specification 1999/100/EC.
Personally I think that this is more for long-distance driving or towing trailers. The 2.5 turbo will not have the same weight penalty in the nose, which probably will make it a car that's funnier to drive.
I know that the 3.0 engine can be turbocharged, but it probably needs some generous modifications before it will be able to survive a turbo. (low-compression pistons, stronger rods are probably the minimum.)
sebberry
01-23-2008, 01:16 PM
I predict that in two years all the cool models (with the exception of the SpecB) will be discontinued. If you want a 5MT turbo legacy wagon, better act quick!
John M
01-23-2008, 11:57 PM
Before someone else does it, here's the first thread ever posted on the site:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1
I didn't browse for it - I cheated and just edited the URL.
And yes, it's locked :D
JDMChizad
02-11-2008, 10:50 AM
Canada still has the Legacy Wagon... How hard would it be to register in the US?
ac328
02-11-2008, 04:36 PM
Canada still has the Legacy Wagon... How hard would it be to register in the US?
Actually Canada is killing the 2.5GT Limited wagaon and sedan (and Outback XT Limited wagon) after MY 2008. So you better hurry!
See:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81050
f1anatic
11-08-2008, 08:41 PM
bump.
Is this car still in production ?