You call that a Horn?

[Salty]

Anybody know where the horn(s) are located on a new Legacy? I am going to yank this out as soon as possible and put something more aggressive in.
Also, I would really like to up the noise the turn signal makes. Is it liely a louder flasher would be a plug in mod? Thanks, Bob.

[gtguy]

I'll find out as soon as my Hella SuperTones get here. From the sound, they're on the passenger side, probably under the snorkus. Should have checked when I had it off the swap bulbs.

Kevin

[Dr. Zevil]

what's the deal with people upgrading thier horn? i just don't understand it. enlighten me.

[gtguy]

what's the deal with people upgrading thier horn? i just don't understand it. enlighten me.

I don't use my horns very often. But when I do, it is because there is a dangerous situation. In that instance, I want to be heard...loudly and without question. The stock GT horns don't do that. The WRX horns, for example, are significantly louder than the GT's stock horns, for whatever reason. I consider horns to be safety equipment and as such, want the best ones that I can get my little hands on.

Horns, for example, in Kevin's World, make a lot more sense than a boost gauge or strut tower bars.

Kevin

[Ken S]

Yes, the stock horns are wimpy. I had to use them the other day as there was some distracted driver driving out of his lane. They make this tepid "meeep" sound.

I'm going to put in my Supertones this weekend. Those things are crazy loud!

Ken

[Dr. Zevil]

I guess it's warranted if the stock horn is more wimpy than the WRX horn.. because that thing IS wimpy. Too bad.

[*Jedimaster*]

I'm not so into the supertones sound- I'm going to find a set of horns from either a Buick Roadmaster or Caddy- those are real horns!

[bemani]

Please let us know where the horn is ... I looked under the snorkle, didn't see it. My theory is you have to take the skid plate off to get to it.

Oh, anyone tried those cheap Indian made Hella Supertones? How do they compare to the German made ones?

[gtguy]

Please let us know where the horn is ... I looked under the snorkle, didn't see it. My theory is you have to take the skid plate off to get to it.

Oh, anyone tried those cheap Indian made Hella Supertones? How do they compare to the German made ones?

Funny you should ask...I had an interesting chat with Griot's Garage, who says they have German SuperTones, but the catalog says "stoutly made in India."

There are two SuperTones, one German, with 118dB of goodness, and a higher pitch. The other is made in India under the supervision of Hella, and have a lower-pitched, 113dB blast. Susquehanna Motorsports carries both.

Kevin

[CombatCQB]

Please let us know where the horn is ... I looked under the snorkle, didn't see it. My theory is you have to take the skid plate off to get to it.

Oh, anyone tried those cheap Indian made Hella Supertones? How do they compare to the German made ones?

It's behind the front bumper under the (US) passenger side headlights. There are two horns, one high and one low tone.

[Gumby]

WRX horn = The Roadrunners "beep-beep"

[CombatCQB]

so I guess a real horn would be a fog horn like those on cruise ships?

[Gumby]

so I guess a real horn would be a fog horn like those on cruise ships?

All the European cars that I've owned or driven have had decent horns and all the Japanesse cars I've owned or driven have had "Beep-Beep" horns, there must be a reason why?

[bemani]

Funny you should ask...I had an interesting chat with Griot's Garage, who says they have German SuperTones, but the catalog says "stoutly made in India."

There are two SuperTones, one German, with 118dB of goodness, and a higher pitch. The other is made in India under the supervision of Hella, and have a lower-pitched, 113dB blast. Susquehanna Motorsports carries both.

Kevin

Yeah, I was looking to buy some Supertones on rallylights.com and I saw the 2 different ones, just wondering if that $20 saving is worth it, how inferior is the Indian one construction and sound quality wise?

[CombatCQB]

I was thinking, wouldn't a used horn from the scrap yard be cheaper? Like Jedimaster said, there are lots of good sounding stuff to be had for almost nothing out there.

[*Jedimaster*]

That's one factor- another is the safety of a decent horn and the other is the look people give you when you beep a horn from one of those older GM tugboats :o

[CombatCQB]

I guess either way is better than the people that make their horns play music.

[agctr]

I have always wanted to upgrade the horn in my car as well. My current MY01 is fine, pretty loud and does the job. My choice of horn would come from a supercar, like a Ferrari or Lambo. Not too sure if you have heard them before but they sound sweet, very high pitched and very loud.... And besides if its red and comes off a Ferrari, it should make the GT just go that little bit faster too.

[CombatCQB]

Hey, I just saw this on ebay. Looks like what everyone wanted. At 135db, this thing will rattle windows!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2485522291&catego ry=26450&sspagename=WDVW

[agctr]

LOL, Im sure it would be a blast, no punt intended but would still love to go for the Ferrari horn, just something different!

[brady_bunch]

Hey, I just saw this on ebay. Looks like what everyone wanted. At 135db, this thing will rattle windows!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2485522291&catego ry=26450&sspagename=WDVW
I did something similar on my last car. Initially they sound great but after a while, the compressor starts to fade and the part of the horns that vibrate start to corrode and after a while all you get out of the horns is what sounds like a strong, windy fart.

I don't know about where you live but that doesn't get much attention around here. :lol:

[CombatCQB]

Hey, I just saw this on ebay. Looks like what everyone wanted. At 135db, this thing will rattle windows!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2485522291&catego ry=26450&sspagename=WDVW
I did something similar on my last car. Initially they sound great but after a while, the compressor starts to fade and the part of the horns that vibrate start to corrode and after a while all you get out of the horns is what sounds like a strong, windy fart.

I don't know about where you live but that doesn't get much attention around here. :lol:
hahaha, never thought that far ahead. How long did yours last, was it used often? I guess for that price, it might be what you're talking about. What did you think caused the corrosion? I'm thinking if we know how they break, maybe we can do some preventive stuff to make them last longer.

If this horn thing turns into a fad, I can just see people buying upgraded compressors like upgrading their audio. You'll know its bad when people complain their lights dim everytime they press the horn. :lol:

[Chapel]

May I suggest this fine piece of kit? (http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=77839)
http://www.griotsgarage.com/images/products/lg/77839_LG.jpg
I have it in my BMW and it's loud and scares the hell out of people when I lay into it (which I do quite often downtown)

If you want to stay with something stock looking:
PIAA Sport Horn (http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ord-Auto~Accessories-Cars~Horn-1-17968.htm)
115dB Dual Tone for $40

I would stay away from the air horns that have seperate horns, compressor and piping though. Not fun to install.

Mild upgrade from Hella (http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ord-Auto~Accessories-Cars~Horn-1-17968.htm)

Then you have your supertones (http://www.rallylights.com/hella/supertone_horn.asp)

I'll probably buy the first one if the Leggy horn is anything like my girlfriend's wimpy little OBS horn.

[*Jedimaster*]

Do you have to mess with relays or anything? I just want to unplug the stock horns and plug in new ones.

[eagletree]

brady_bunch wrote:
CombatCQB wrote:
Hey, I just saw this on ebay. Looks like what everyone wanted. At 135db, this thing will rattle windows!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2485522291&catego ry=26450&sspagename=WDVW

I did something similar on my last car. Initially they sound great but after a while, the compressor starts to fade and the part of the horns that vibrate start to corrode and after a while all you get out of the horns is what sounds like a strong, windy fart.

I don't know about where you live but that doesn't get much attention around here.

hahaha, never thought that far ahead. How long did yours last, was it used often? I guess for that price, it might be what you're talking about. What did you think caused the corrosion? I'm thinking if we know how they break, maybe we can do some preventive stuff to make them last longer.

If this horn thing turns into a fad, I can just see people buying upgraded compressors like upgrading their audio. You'll know its bad when people complain their lights dim everytime they press the horn.


I used to have a set of these on my Yamaha RD 350 motorcycle. Sounded like a Peterbilt. Talk about respect when I hit those things. They were awsome. The only problem was I could not use the turn signal indicators or high beam at the same time, because the alternator didn't generate enough current.

[Ken S]

Do you have to mess with relays or anything? I just want to unplug the stock horns and plug in new ones.

It depends on the power requirement of the horns. For "normal" horns, it should be plug and play. The wiring leads might be different since Subaru horns are grounded to the chassis.

My Supertones came with a relay but I just did a direct replacement with my stockers on my Forester. They were still pretty damn loud. Loud enough that you could make someone jump honking at them as they walked by your car (I did it to my brother! :) ). I'm sure the Supertones would be even louder had I used the relay -- but I'm a laz bum.

Ken

[Chapel]

well, for a two wire horn, its a direct replacement. My car has two horns, I unplugged both, cut one of the wires down, spliced in some stereo cable and ran it to the new leads. Took about 10 minute. The biggest pain is finding a good place to actually MOUNT it.
The horn I have is pretty compact. its about the same size as your fist.
for a one wire (horn is grounded with the base, not a wire) you simply have to make your own ground wire.
the relay is only for OLD cars that don't have a horn relay.

[RoundBoy]

sorry to ressurect this.... but can anyone give me some pics for a horn replacement...

I felt useless after a nice handicapped man decided to go reverse on a residential street... I had to back up to avoid him...

The horns (like the goggles) do nothing!

[skubdu]

I have the Hella supertones and I mouted them behind the grill. I ran the wires to the original location and connected it with male spades. You can access the wires for the horns from the bottom of the car on the passenger side just take out the cover by removing three clips and a bolt that holds the cover. If you like you can replace the fog light bulbs wihile you are in there.

[STG]

If you want an effective horn, try this. Chuck Beck, former team Shelby LeMans lead mechanic and Porsche 550 Spyder replica maker had a demonstrator Beck 550 with 240 hp and a deisel truck air horn. Nothing better than that.

[RoundBoy]

does an air horn fit in our car? OR do we need the hella supertones sized horn (compact) ?

i want as much of a 'drop in' horn as possible

[gtguy]

sorry to ressurect this.... but can anyone give me some pics for a horn replacement...

I felt useless after a nice handicapped man decided to go reverse on a residential street... I had to back up to avoid him...

The horns (like the goggles) do nothing!

roundboy, PM rao about that. He did my setup, and it's pretty seriously boss. I'm running Hella SuperTones.

Kevin

[Ken S]

Kevin,

I think I might have asked before, but could you post details on your SuperTone install? Where and how did you mount them?

I've got a set from my previous Forester and haven't gotten around to it yet.

Ken

[ih8vtec13]

I guess either way is better than the people that make their horns play music.
I want to have my horn play La Cocooracha lol just kidding, i think a set of airhorns will do the job :D

[gtguy]

Kevin,

I think I might have asked before, but could you post details on your SuperTone install? Where and how did you mount them?

I've got a set from my previous Forester and haven't gotten around to it yet.

Ken

I'll have rao hook something up. Essentially, we couldn't figure out a way to take the stock horns out to replace those (they're behind the passenger side headlight). So rao just ran extension wire from the relays there behind the headlight, to the steel upright in front of the radiator. We then bolted the SuperTones to that upright, so that they are firing straight forward, but aren't visible through the bumper. You could mount them higher, but looks were important for me. It's a very nice install that looks almost OE.

Kevin

[Ken S]

Thanks, Kevin. Looking forward to it. I miss blasting those SuperTones!!

Ken

[*Jedimaster*]

I'll have rao hook something up. Essentially, we couldn't figure out a way to take the stock horns out to replace those (they're behind the passenger side headlight). So rao just ran extension wire from the relays there behind the headlight, to the steel upright in front of the radiator. We then bolted the SuperTones to that upright, so that they are firing straight forward, but aren't visible through the bumper. You could mount them higher, but looks were important for me. It's a very nice install that looks almost OE.

Kevin
So you had the bumper off then? When I ha dmine off, it looked like you could just take the 2 horns out and throw something else in.

[firedawgs]

what's the deal with people upgrading thier horn? i just don't understand it. enlighten me.


It is called penis envy. They what something really big, but don't have it. So, they go buy something big to make themselves fell better. HA HA HA.

[*Jedimaster*]

It is called penis envy. They what something really big, but don't have it. So, they go buy something big to make themselves fell better. HA HA HA.
I'm just trying to make my horn something I'd want to blow. What would you say to that? :lol:

[RoundBoy]

i want people to WANT to getout of my way when i require the use of the horn..

[gtguy]

So you had the bumper off then? When I ha dmine off, it looked like you could just take the 2 horns out and throw something else in.

No, we didn't take the bumper off, just the headlight assembly and grille.

And as far as the value of louder horns, I view it as a safety measure. Car audio systems are getting louder, cars are getting better noise insulation. I honk my horns in a serious situation, which means very rarely. But when I honk them, I want to be heard. The Legacy GT's horn, compared to the WRX's horn, doesn't cut the mustard.

Kevin

[agctr]

Go all out and hook up a Lambo or Ferrari horn, it might not be red but its sounds the ....... ahh u know.
Adam.

[RoundBoy]

looking to spend something south of eleventy billion dollars :)

[firedawgs]

i want people to WANT to getout of my way when i require the use of the horn..

I know what you mean. I get my fix from driving fire trucks for a living.

[*Jedimaster*]

No, we didn't take the bumper off, just the headlight assembly and grille.

And as far as the value of louder horns, I view it as a safety measure. Car audio systems are getting louder, cars are getting better noise insulation. I honk my horns in a serious situation, which means very rarely. But when I honk them, I want to be heard. The Legacy GT's horn, compared to the WRX's horn, doesn't cut the mustard.

Kevin
Oh- what I meant was that with the bumper off, you have a nice clear view of the horns.

[GTLegs]

gtguy you said you had the headlight assembly off without the bumper off? Does that mean I can just take my headlight out to clear it?

[*Jedimaster*]

I don't think you could take the headlight sout without removing the bumper. There's a bracket that holds the headlights in that has to be removed. I suppose you could try bending the bumper down to get to it, but I think you'd crack it- or at least crack the paint.

[gtguy]

I don't think you could take the headlight sout without removing the bumper. There's a bracket that holds the headlights in that has to be removed. I suppose you could try bending the bumper down to get to it, but I think you'd crack it- or at least crack the paint.

Indeed. We had the headlight mostly out, as in loose, but the bumper kept getting in the way of its removal, whereupon we figured out that full removal of the headlight would involve more work than we were inclined to do, which is when rao came up with the relay idea.

Kevin

[plunk10]

You think this horn is wimpy? You should hear the one on my 200SX beater car. Can't even hear it inside the car at 65 mph with windows down. :lol:

[agctr]

I think the horn on this jobby isnt too bad. But an upgrade would be nice.
Adam.

[turboman]

On my WRX I had dual Fiam horns mounted in the grille area with relays. Worked great. The purpose was the number of deer we have around here at night. Nothing will chase them back into the woods like laying on a super horn for 100 years.

Yes, I had those little "deer whistle" thingees that are worthless. Deer I hit never even looked at the car.

Few years back in a 3 week period I had two separate hit deer incidents ina Mitsubishi Galant. Both at 60mph, exact same spot on the fender, right where it had just been repaired for the first hit.

Approx. $3500 repair costs each time. No increase in State farm premiums.

Consequently... I'll be putting a couple loudest horns I can find in the are where the air box resonator was. Nice big hole down there. I'll just wire them to be additions to the stock horns for maximum blast.

[agctr]

Said it before and I will say it again......
The horn on the F360 and Lambo's ROCK....
Adam.

[Beanboy]

Dusting off this three month old thread. Anybody else do horn replacements? I just want to pop off the stockers and pop in some replacements that are a little louder and lower toned...

-B

[fzanetti]

How are we doing as far as horn replacements? Loud ones? Fiam's?

Let us know guys...

Flavio Zanetti
Boston, MA

[RADON]

I had the 118db Hella Supertones in my WRX wired to blow with the stockers. I was planning on installing them this time as a replacement. They are loud.

[franklin]

what's the deal with people upgrading thier horn? i just don't understand it. enlighten me.
The stock horns are sorry ass.

[fzanetti]

What about FIAMM's Freeway blasters? Anyone ever installed them in a LGT?

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1996&highlight=FIAMM+horns

Flavio Zanetti
Boston, MA

[redline76]

I have the Hella Supertones mounted behind the grille. They're shrill. They're loud. They work.

[meier motor sports]

right front corner of the bumper (thats the pass side)

suposedly u are suposed to take the bumper off to access them. but im pretty sure u can get to them by removing the plastic sheild on the bottom

[RoundBoy]

Just to ask since I am on a mod kick..

Do the hella supertones require the relay on the 05 LGT ? or can I get away with just ordering the horns themselves ?

[fzanetti]

FIAMM Freeway blasters don't require an additional relay, per the NASIOC instructions...

Flavio Zanetti
Boston, MA

[Ken S]

Just to ask since I am on a mod kick..

Do the hella supertones require the relay on the 05 LGT ? or can I get away with just ordering the horns themselves ?


The Hellas come with their own relay -- at least they did when I bought mine a few years ago. You can power the Hellas off the stock harness, but I'm not sure if they were designed for a higher voltage. When I did this with my previous Forester, the Hellas were still extremely LOUD. Haven't had a chance to do it with my Legacy, however.

Ken

[RoundBoy]

yes... I also found the option of ordering the horns themselves (no relay, etc) for less cost.. and i could mix / match the high & low horn.

I was wondering if this was feasable... if sans relay if I am no louder then stock.. its not worth it

[redline76]

I didn't use the relay and they're plenty loud, believe me. I think there's already a relay in-line with the stock horns; I didn't see the need to replace it.

[QTwo]

All of this talk has made me kinda..... Horny. :-) I have thought about this upgrade ever since I first had to use our wimpy ass horn. Does anyone have sound clips of some of these aftermarket horn options? Do you know where I could get a clip? I am partial to the Italianesque sounding option. Not sure if this is the two tone. The starter at Lime Rock Park uses this sound to signify the start of the race.

[rony]

Tonight was the last straw...

Some lady not paying attention almost changed lanes into me on the Freeway, and I had to hold the horn down for like 10 seconds! :eek:

I replaced the factory buzzers, yes they are buzzers, with the FIAMM Freeway Blasters, High and Low tone.

I wish I took pictures, because I was able to put them in the factory location, in place of the orignal buzzers, and use the factory wiring. Had to remove the air box and "fold" back the plastic cover under the car to get to them. Jacking up the passenger side is a good idea. I still think this method is easier then taking off the front bummer. :)

These horns are so loud, they make me jump when I hit them., :D

[boris]

Tonight was the last straw...

Some lady not paying attention almost changed lanes into me on the Freeway, and I had to hold the horn down for like 10 seconds! :eek:

I replaced the factory buzzers, yes they are buzzers, with the FIAMM Freeway Blasters, High and Low tone.

I wish I took pictures, because I was able to put them in the factory location, in place of the orignal buzzers, and use the factory wiring. Had to remove the air box and "fold" back the plastic cover under the car to get to them. Jacking up the passenger side is a good idea. I still think this method is easier then taking off the front bummer. :)

These horns are so loud, they make me jump when I hit them., :D

I did the same mod (high and low Fiamm in the stock location), but I removed the bumper, and it wasn't a big deal. Gave nice easy access, probably 10 minutes to take off and 15 minutes back on.