Boost gauge?

[bemani]

Anyone have a suggestion for a boost gauge that matches the look of the red/blue color gauges?

[axis008]

Several people and myself have suggested Defi BF gauges. I heard someone talk about VDO gauges?

[*Jedimaster*]

Try this (http://www.legacysti.com/search.php)

[bemani]

Already searched.

[*Jedimaster*]

Then you suck at the internet. This has already been discussed.
/NASICOCK flashback moment.

Where's Drift_monkey when we need him? :lol:

[axis008]

Just went around NASIOC. Saw this in one of the posts: High res. link (1.6MB) (http://www.defi-shop.com/images/BFamber-Ind2-high.pdf), Low res. link (100KB) (http://www.defi-shop.com/images/BFamber-Ind2-low.pdf) - Defi is coming out with the BF gauge in an red/amber color, similar to that of the Legacy and STi.

[bemani]

I want something with blueish white color for the numbers and such to match though.

[axis008]

What do you think of the current Defi BF gauges? They fit that description, sort of, right?

[bemani]

I've seen the pictures and the colors seem to match, but do they have the electroluminescent like the Legacy?

[CombatCQB]

IIRC, the Legacy gauges are made by Defi right? I just can't spend the money on Defi gauges.

[brady_bunch]

Here's the STi Genome boost gauge for the JDM market. It's a Defi:

http://www3.zero.ad.jp/smix555/cimg0219b.jpg

[axis008]

Actually that's the regular kind! Let me find a picture of the STI genome.

[axis008]

http://www.subydude.com/images/prod/sti_boost_gauge.jpg

I remember someone on some forum buying this expecting it to match his STi interior, but it didn't. I don't remember what colors it showed, I will try to find out.

[CombatCQB]

what's the price on one of those kits?

[brady_bunch]

Where would you mount it and keep the classy overall look of the Legacy interior? That's my struggle right now.

[*Jedimaster*]

Mine too- I want a boost gauge- prefereably one is psi- and I want it to look like it belongs there.

[Deer Killer]

What's looking better and better is LCD based guages.. Ecutek has a product like this, but I bet the CAN bus outputs are easy enough to decode, if someone wants. So a cheap LCD screen + an old laptop + CAN interface. It should be able to make the right color/type gauges on the LCD screen for all ECU monitored sensors, plus it can be an MP3 jukebox and NAV unit.

Just need some open source software :)

The Defi BF gauge is close, but there is really no where good to put it, plus it's expensive..

[InterCooled]

The Defi gauges are probably the best on the market.....but the most expensive as well. Another really good alternative is Autometer. http://www.autometer.com/

My favourite is the Cobalt series but these gauges run around $200 US. I still consider that expensive for a gauge but you get what you pay for. Usually they have a better accuracy.
If that is still to much, they have some $50-80 gauges that will work just fine.

[Rimfaxe]

a note of caution regarding the front A pillar- the side curtain airbags go at least halfway down the A pillar. I noticed this when they changed mine out as part of the recall. Not sure where to mount any additional gauges unless it was in a pod on the dash somewhere.

Rimfaxe

[*Jedimaster*]

a note of caution regarding the front A pillar- the side curtain airbags go at least halfway down the A pillar. I noticed this when they changed mine out as part of the recall. Not sure where to mount any additional gauges unless it was in a pod on the dash somewhere.

Rimfaxe

Good point- hadn't considered that. I'm hoping someone figures out how to add something very integrated looking like maybe an attachment for the center dash pocket.

[InterCooled]

a note of caution regarding the front A pillar- the side curtain airbags go at least halfway down the A pillar. I noticed this when they changed mine out as part of the recall. Not sure where to mount any additional gauges unless it was in a pod on the dash somewhere.

Rimfaxe

Good point- hadn't considered that. I'm hoping someone figures out how to add something very integrated looking like maybe an attachment for the center dash pocket.

I saw some interesting mounts where you replace your current driver dash panel that has 2 mounts right beside the cars other gauges. It is hard to explain. You can see here what I mean. http://hp.autometer.com/products/mounting_solutions/inst_clust_import/inst_clust_import.html

Picture is small, but you get the idea. As of yet there isn't a mount for the 05 Leg.
There are some center panels that might work though.

[agctr]

Im sticking with u Deer, instead of drilling or placing a boost guage that doesnt fit in, I would go the LCD option especially if Subaru were to bring out the SatNav system. It shouldnt be too hard to hook up the Boost into that system once u had a menu up and running.

[cc-b]

STi Genome makes a gauge panel for 3 gauges that fits the cubbyhole above the information display.

[brady_bunch]

STi Genome makes a gauge panel for 3 gauges that fits the cubbyhole above the information display.
Got any pics? :)

[cc-b]

STi Genome makes a gauge panel for 3 gauges that fits the cubbyhole above the information display.
Got any pics? :)

Just happen to have one ;) :

http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/05Legacy-gauges.jpg

[*Jedimaster*]

http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/05Legacy-gauges.jpg

Hmmm- now that's not bad. I'd like to see one like what they make for the Forester where the little lid is replaced by a hood that opens for storage and still has the gauges molded to the outside.

[mccorry]

Here are some that I am considering for my Leg GT...

This one is from AC Autotechnic (anyone have experience with them?
http://www.autodynamic.com/transfer/dbimages/large/GR-6002.jpg

This set is from Megan Racing (again, anyone have input?)
http://www.jmdracing.com/images/thumbs/mr_turbo.jpg

Autometer C2's
http://www.egauges.com/images/autometer/C2_Series.jpg

Autometer Cobalts
http://www.egauges.com/images/autometer/Cobalt_Series.jpg

[axis008]

Personally I think AC is too ricey. I like the Defi BF gauges the best. They are high quality, and their price reflects that. The Megan one is nice, nothing much to say about it. The Autometer Cobalt is nice but Autometer C2... anything with indiglo now is not in..... Haha.

[Steve D]

The STi Genome gauges match the cluster in the Version 7 STi Type RA perfectly. They also match the vanilla Version 7 STi apart from the needles...in the main cluster they're amber and the Genome gauges are red.

The Version 8 Impreza STi cluster is the same setup as the USDM cluster. The Genome gauges don't match very well at all.

I'd shoot for the Defi-Link gauges...they seem to look really good in that PDF!!

[Xenonk]

You all should try www.dakotadigital.com for their gauges if you want something hard-set like that.

Keefe

[powbmps]

Those are pretty cool. NIce price. A 'vacuum/boost' gauge and sending unit for $140. Thanks for the link.

Chris S.

[Deer Killer]

Another one. Looks like a modded omori.

Yeah it's for a B6 audi, but it does match our gauges too (better even, I think)! $260 with all their custom molded plastic bits, but we could probably convince them to sell the gauge only for a lot less.

http://www.awe-tuning.com/media/products/awe/b6_vent_gauge/b6_close.jpg

edit - I should probably tell you from where, http://www.awe-tuning.com

[jpkad]

Has anyone done this to their '05 Legacy yet? If so, what did you end up going with and where did you mount it?

[devobuzz]

I just measured out where I'm gonna put one - there's room for two 2 1/16 inch gauges in the cubby hole above the trip computer. I'll just make a plate to mount the gauges in - a boost gauge and maybe an oil pressure.

[!S4]

Are you going to leave the door?

[devobuzz]

Yeh I think so - it provides shade to the gauges to make them easier to read (that's my excuse for keeping the door). Actually I don't want to start cutting things up!

[!S4]

Hmm...I'm thinking about a couple gauges and a V1 remote display in there. I haven't figure out if there'd be enough space though yet. At least boost and the v1 would be nice. Being able to close the door to hide that stuff is even better.

[*Jedimaster*]

Hmm- I'm only interested in the boost guage- maybe I'll rig up a divider so I can still use some of the storage space. I was going to cast a pod for the dash or a pillar but this sounds like a much better way- and whoever said that you'd be able to close it to hide the goodies and it would provide shade for the gauge has me sold!

[aldog1330]

Just remember that stuff gets really hot in that cubby, though I'm sure its the same for anything else in the dash!

[GranTourer]

Hmmm, two gauges fit in that cubby.

I noticed that other than a boost gauge someone mentioned installing an oil pressure gauge. I was thinking the next important stat to monitor would be EGT temps, but I could be way off.

What other gauge would compliment a boost gauge? Any opinions/suggestions?

[*Jedimaster*]

I'd be up for oil pressure myself. EGT's aren't really something you need to monitor unless you're reaaaaallllly modding the car.

[axis008]

What does knowing about oil pressure do?

[abakja1]

reviving an old thread,..

but I was thinking about getting the Megan boost gauge too,...Looks good and is cheap,..I would like to get the DEFI BF gauge, but for $300, Id rather save it and get an AP first,..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7977145845

What do you think?? Not bad for $50 shipped,..

btw, oil pressure gauge would be good to know since you wouldnt be starving your engine of oil, but I think this is more for peeps who race or have "built" engines,..

..but water temps good too if you live in hot locals and need to know if you're running hot due to no antifreeze or leaks from bad maintanence or hoses etc,..

[sandwood]

couple of people on the boards have the megan racing gauges and seem to like them

[abakja1]

anyone got pics of the Megan boost gauge in their car?? Any night pics too??

I would save my $$ for other things since all I need is a boost gauge instead of a $300 Defi gauge,..

thanks

[sandwood]

search says:
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10818&highlight=Megan
they look great for the price.

[abakja1]

thanks for the link,..I knew I saw it,..but didnt come across it after reading so many pages,..

not a bad deal for $50,...

[jim1969]

http://www.spatechnique.com/dualgauges/dualgauges.htm

[Deer Killer]

Digital.. uck.. They convey no rate of change information, besides being hard to read.

[jim1969]

Just giving the options.

[melayout]

Instead of guages, are there data monitors that connect directly to the ECU instead of into the engine bay and can provide me info about my EGT, Oil Temperature and the other stuff Boost, Oil Pressure, Coolant Temperature, etc, etc?

Like a small rectangular box with an LED display that splices into the ECU harness and just displays what the engine's sensors are reading.

The gauges seem to be more of a light show and you would need a ton of em for each sensor. Since I run the car hard, I'm looking for a consolidated electronic monitor that can help me guage and understand when the car is running best.

Edit: Found it at http://www.ecutek.com/products/dashdisplay/

Mojo

[jim1969]

The delta display is pricey. I have EcuTeK but the cost of the display and the custom install (our cubby is not DIN sized) would run over a grand. KTR Performance did a custom install.
I'm looking at this option: http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm. Not bad for wideband and the dimensions are 4.7" x 2" x 0.9" which should fit in our cubby.

[melayout]

The delta display is pricey. I have EcuTeK but the cost of the display and the custom install (our cubby is not DIN sized) would run over a grand. KTR Performance did a custom install.
I'm looking at this option: http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm. Not bad for wideband and the dimensions are 4.7" x 2" x 0.9" which should fit in our cubby.

I think you meant to say the DashDisplay.

I'm actually thinking of getting the DeltaDash http://www.ecutek.com/products/deltadash/ , $330, and since it doesn't need any splicing, just plug-n-play to my small laptop, I can get all the information I need plus a bunch more without having to fabricate anything or mess with the dashboard.

[jim1969]

I don't own a laptop, so I'd have to buy one. Plus, I think it would be a little awkward to have to look over at the passenger seat to look at the laptop while having the cord running to the OBD II port over your legs. Maybe only while tuning but not for everyday.

[Deer Killer]

the latest deltadash 1.40 doesn't seems to support the USDM LGT.

[melayout]

I don't own a laptop, so I'd have to buy one. Plus, I think it would be a little awkward to have to look over at the passenger seat to look at the laptop while having the cord running to the OBD II port over your legs. Maybe only while tuning but not for everyday.

Why not "under your legs" ? Is it un-impossible according to the theory of relativity? Why can't we just say "close to your legs" which is more inline with the theory of relativity, since it is relativily close to your legs, whether it is over or under ?:confused:

[LotusSeven]

The first essential accessory that I added to our 05 Legacy GT was an Autometer Phantom electric vac/boost gauge. I didn't want to loose the mid-dash cubby and wanted the gauge to be clearly visible during all normal driving. The "steering column" type mounts all obscure other instruments or warning lights and no windshield pillar pods are available for this car because of the side curtain airbags. The gauge is mounted in a standard 52mm Autometer pedestal which is hung from the windshield glass using "High-temp. Super Lock" removable surface fasteners. It's very solidly mounted and is easilly visible being just below the normal driving line-of-sight. The Super Lock is cut into 2 in. dia disks with one attached to the windshield glass and the other to the Autometer pedestal. Pressing the gauge in place mounts it securely.

I was able to route the cable around the windshield pillar, under the door seal weatherstrip and through the gap between the inner and outer fenders to get to the engine compartment. The cable is visible in the photo and is circled in red.

The electric Autometer Phantom gauge uses an electronic MAP "manifold absolute pressure" transducer which I plumbed into the line between the manifold and the fuel pressure regulator. I fabricated a couple of brackets out of aluminum bar stock that attach to the existing mounting bolts that hold the fuel pressure regulator (so no new holes need to be drilled). The MAP sensor is mounted with the air nipple facing down to prevent any moisture from accumulating in the sensor and destroying it.

I've had this set up for 6-months and love the Autometer gauge. I've left the lighting color at "white" but this can easilly be changed using the supplied optical filters. The peak recall and boost alarm flashing red LED are both useful and the gauge has worked flawlessly.

[jarrod]

The delta display is pricey. I have EcuTeK but the cost of the display and the custom install (our cubby is not DIN sized) would run over a grand. KTR Performance did a custom install.
I'm looking at this option: http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm. Not bad for wideband and the dimensions are 4.7" x 2" x 0.9" which should fit in our cubby.

let us know how that goes...i'm interested in that product as well

[melayout]

the latest deltadash 1.40 doesn't seems to support the USDM LGT.

Actually the latest version available is 1.47 and according to the forums, the Legacy GT is supported.:)

[mccorry]

bump for more gauge pictures.... I really need to get this mod going....

[flat4Bxr]

If anyone is interested, I have the following available for sale. They were purchased for my '03 WRX but I never had the chance to install them before I traded in for my '05 2.5GTL. All are brand new and in their boxes with instructions, connectors, and cables.

...Defi BF White Boost
...Defi BF White Oil Pressure sold w/brand new gallery plug and gasket
...Defi BF White EGT
...Defi Controller version II

I know some of you were inquiring about the amber backlight but I was looking at my dash and found the center console kind of amber, but the dash had more of a white backlight for the speedometer and tachometer.

[mccorry]

$$ ?

[flat4Bxr]

PM me, didn't want to hijack the post

[MrCoffee]

So one could not get an AVO "Center Cubby 1DIN fascia" (http://www.avoturboworld.com/avoshop/index.php?cPath=1_58_3_62) and install an EcuTek dashdisplay (http://www.ecutek.com/products/dashdisplay/)? Is the DashDisplay too deep for the cubby? I have not been able to get the dimentions of the single din units people on here have installed but ones like this (http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10422) seem fairly deep.

[mccorry]

Don't see why that wouldn't work, Will.... if its your cup o' tea. ;)
I decided to go gauges....

As a matter of fact... today, I just got in my Pro Racing gauges that I bought off Ebay (boost, EGT, and Oil pressure). Ended up running around $212.
They are tinted lenses (appear black when off), LED backlit w/ white numerals and red needle. They come will mounting and hook-up hardware.

I am pretty impressed with the quality.... heres a close up of the gauges (test fitting them in the cubby).

[MrCoffee]

Nice looking gauges man. I'll have to stop by in a month when i get back to OH and see how they look in person. I would like to do the ecutek idea assuming it will fit but it will be pricy. The map switching would be interesting for, say, a race gas map :) I'm just trying to see if anyone knows the dimensions of the cubby and the dashdisplay so i can tell if it will fit.

Is that zeitronix thing just like a digital defi gauge for boost, egt, etc? That might be a cool solution for not too much money. Thanks for the link jim1969.

[scans007]

So one could not get an AVO "Center Cubby 1DIN fascia" (http://www.avoturboworld.com/avoshop/index.php?cPath=1_58_3_62) and install an EcuTek dashdisplay (http://www.ecutek.com/products/dashdisplay/)? Is the DashDisplay too deep for the cubby? I have not been able to get the dimentions of the single din units people on here have installed but ones like this (http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10422) seem fairly deep.

Yes you can, he was say'n that it wouldn't fit in the cubby hole we currently have. If you get the din bezel from AVO it should fit.

[jim1969]

It's very pricey. I got a quote form psi3 (who makes the S.E.C.S. unit that EcuTeK uses) for $1266 USD for it shipped. Now add in for a din bezel and installation. That's a lot of money. I'd consider the scanmaster 3 first.

[axis008]

Don't see why that wouldn't work, Will.... if its your cup o' tea. ;)
I decided to go gauges....

As a matter of fact... today, I just got in my Pro Racing gauges that I bought off Ebay (boost, EGT, and Oil pressure). Ended up running around $212.
They are tinted lenses (appear black when off), LED backlit w/ white numerals and red needle. They come will mounting and hook-up hardware.

I am pretty impressed with the quality.... heres a close up of the gauges (test fitting them in the cubby).
I'm blind. Your gauges 60mm right? :p Set up looks great. Maybe with a plate behind it, it'd be perfect.

[al-gorithm]

Those are 52mm.

[mccorry]

Yeah... but I decided taht the fit is too tight in the cubby with the door in place, so instead, I have started to fabricate a backing plate to replace the entire cubby assembly..... this will be either spray'ed or coverd in leather/vinyl to match the seats....

Here is a picture.... thus far....

[mccorry]

Bump for new info....

The Pro gauge oil pressure sending unit has taken a crap. That is 2 sending units in one year.... Plus.. it turns out the sending unit is proprietary. You cannot replace it.... only can buy a new gauge on Ebay.

99.9% of sending units read 0 ohms at 0 psi and increase resistance as pressure increases.
The Pro sending unit reads 260 ohms at 0psi and DECREASES resistance as pressure increases.

I have had 2 sending units die on me... so that is enough. I am going to try either the Autometer Cobalt series or the Autometer Sport-Comp II series gauges.

Just buyer-be-ware when going with the Ebay specials. I gave it a shot and got burnt.

[MrCoffee]

What will you go with now? I am in the market for an fuel and possibly oil pressure gauge so i am very curious what you find. I'm a graduate now so i don't have $$ to experiment :)

[mccorry]

I went with AutoMeter Sport-Comp II's, Will.....