What Wheels For You (Upgrade) ?

[AMT4SWA]

I will most likely stay with 17's but I really like clean European styled "5" blades (the "StilAuto" "5" from Italy), so I will most likely go with a 17 X 7 1/2 wheel upgrade for my Legacy GT. Check out StilAuto's site and tell me what you think... www.stilautoruote.com/showroom.htm :shock:

[SUBE555]

Possibly a set of Prodrives (P1, PFF7), BBS RGR, or Detroit F1's, or the JDM Spec B wheels.

[gtguy]

The P1s (17") from my WRX wagon will go on the Legacy, and Nokian WRs will go on the Legacy stock wheels for the winter time.

Kevin

[legacy2ner]

I will probably get the gunmetal gramlights on a white legacy. If they have 18'' in them thats the size.

[EJ20H-TT]

Classic Subaru Gold

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2004/Subaru/100179252/022540-E.jpg

[Jason L]

The stock wheels look plenty nice (as opposed to the WRX stockers). But, if I had the cash to do so I'd probably get these. Prodrive GC-07C.

[PPower]

Personally, I wouldn't choose to put heavy wheels like the Five on the car. For a 5 spoke, I prefer the stock wheels. A main difference that I see is that the spoke goes all the way to the lip which will make it look a bit bigger than the wheel really is. To me, the looks and size aren't different enough from stock for me to justify spending money. I would at least want a wheel that is light and forged.

Don't listen to me though. I tend to like wheels that I'll never spend the money on. 18" x 7.5" Prodrive GC-010E at $625 each. :shock:
http://www.prodrive-usa.com/productImages/123.jpg

[Tide]

I have a set of 17" OZ Supperleggeras on the WRX I may or may not use on the Legacy. If I put aftermarkets on it, I'll probably want 18's but I'll wait to see how much the wheel wells can handle.

[SUBE555]

Preston I so agree on the GC-010, that is an excellent looking wheel, though I think the gold is the best looking color of that design, just personal preference though. A medium Bronze or lighter Gunmetal is alright too.

[PPower]

Yep, the British Gold is pretty hot. I'm normally not big on dark wheels, so it would probably be silver or gold. The GC-06 may look good as well.

[SUBE555]

The similar to rays design. ;) I have yet to see a good example of those on a Legacy.

[team23jordan]

Breyton imagine
http://www.breyton.com/images/imaginekl.jpg
or
Advan model 7
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Advan/adv_m7.jpg
or
Advan kreuzer 5
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Advan/adv_k5.jpg

[PPower]

Nothing like putting a BMW wheel on a Legacy. Do they make fitments for a Subaru?

[SUBE555]

Ew, that's just not right. I like to see a har bit of the top of the tire below the fender well. Guess I try to stay speedbump/hump friendly to the bottom of my car. :) That's just my opinion though. Call me old. :P

[dark_rex]

i like the advan model 5.

:) $$$$$$$$$$$CHA-CHIONG!$$$$$$$$$$

[SUBE555]

The wheels aren't as bad as the total negative fender gap. But to each their own. I like a little bit more beef on the wheel though as potholes are prevelant and I've known people to bend even the stock 16's on RS's. A sleeper OE wheel or something like a Prodrive really are nice in my book. Once again, its all personal opinion. If everyone liked the same thing, it would be a boring world.

[Dr. Zevil]

I would still take these over ANY other wheel!

http://www.bankheist.net/legacy_rear.jpg


This wheel on the silver, blue, or even black... doesn't matter to me.

[PPower]

In addition to the Prodrive I already said, here are some I like. I think the price of stock wheels looks good to me especially now.

Volk CE28N 18x7.5 +50mm $480ea
http://vividracing.securesites.net/catalog/images/volk2a.jpg
BBS LM 18x8 50mm $650 each :shock:
http://vividracing.securesites.net/catalog/images/bbs2a.jpg
Advan TC2 18x7.5 +48mm $590
http://vividracing.securesites.net/catalog/images/advantc2a.jpg
Gram Lights 57 Pro 18x7.5 +48mm $430ea.
http://vividracing.securesites.net/catalog/images/ggame1a.jpg

[SUBE555]

How about the BBS RGR in Bright Satin Silver Paint...
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/bbs/swap/bbs_rgr_db_ci3_l.jpg
They were:
$465 for 17x7.5"
$559 for 18x7.5"

Definitely a nice wheel if you can afford them, the Rays STi 5-spokes available in 16-18":
http://www.japanparts.com/New_web/SUBARU/ImprezaGG_GD/1011_003STi/0300401.JPG

[PPower]

Nah, the BBS LM smokes all other BBS wheels.

[SUBE555]

I think the LMs look good on a Vette or an Audi, but I'm not much for them with the styling of a Subaru. That's just my opinion.

[Dr. Zevil]

NO WAY DUDE.. see above.. those rims that I picked out kick arse. Maybe you need a course in Rim-ology or Wheel-ography. :lol:

Actually those BBS do look nice but there is just something that's too silver about them. Like a kid with braces or something.

[SUBE555]

The BBS on the Legacy don't look like LMs. I know the color is different but still.

[team23jordan]

http://www.legacysti.com/files/s4_avant_bbs_lm.jpg
those look like legacy sti rims :o
s-e-x-y
bbs are damn expensive tho

[ha-evolution]

I would still take these over ANY other wheel!

http://www.bankheist.net/legacy_rear.jpg


This wheel on the silver, blue, or even black... doesn't matter to me.

I'll take those wheels and the car that comes with 'em plus a set of these for the winter:

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/bbs/swap/bbs_rgr_db_ci3_l.jpg

[ha-evolution]

Maybe a set of these also:

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Advan/150_sg2.jpg

[SUBE555]

The BBS spoke design looks very nice, just a PITA to keep clean.

[axis008]

Ah but when clean they are worth the wash!!

[ha-evolution]

At least the BBS wheels don't have those fake rivets in the lip. Those are a real PITA to clean.

[SUBE555]

I find them detracting too, as a good clean wheel design is easy to clean and can look very nice without being bling. Rivets unless completely useful are bling. ;)

[Stacie]

http://www.bankheist.net/legacy_rear.jpg

Anyone know what color this car is? It looks an awful lot like World Rally Blue...and looking at Subaru's website and the two blues they offer, this looks too light to be the Regal Blue Pearl, but too dark to be Atlantic Blue Pearl. I love this color (and I thought I was completely sold on getting black), so does anyone know if this is going to be available for USDM?

Thanks...

*Stacie*

[ha-evolution]

You are correct - that is world rally blue. No such color for us here in North America. That car is actually a one-off to display the STi parts available for the Legacy. I don't think that color is even available for the Legacy in Japan..

I think you made a good choice with black btw. :wink:

[Stacie]

So back to black it is...I think the black makes the lines of the car look very sleek and purty.

BTW, the color selector on Subaru's site has teh suck...all the colors look so Crayola and fake...anyone know where to find actual pictures of the different colors???

Thanks again...sorry for derailing from the wheel talk, but looks like this thread hasn't been used in a while...

*Stacie*

[MSB]

BTW, the color selector on Subaru's site has teh suck...all the colors look so Crayola and fake...anyone know where to find actual pictures of the different colors???
*Stacie*

have a look here http://www.legacysti.com/viewtopic.php?t=578&start=0

[Stacie]

have a look here http://www.legacysti.com/viewtopic.php?t=578&start=0

Mucho helpful...thanks! Unless I could keep the red looking that blindingly shiny (quit my job to stay home and wax my car?), I think black is still the sweetest.

*Stacie*

[SUBE555]

Just don't get silver, that's my color! :D

BTW, welcome to the boards. :)

[SC GT]

What do you think of these on a black sedan?

http://www.importhookup.com/wheeloptions/pictures/formula/formula-mesh2.jpg

[SUBE555]

Is that chrome or polished aluminum? :D

Looks similar to the Spec B style wheel.

Better make sure the offset, bolt pattern and sizing is correct.

[SC GT]

They are copies of Volks. The color is a hyperblack which looks really nice. They come in 18 X 7.5, +48. :D

[Chapel]

Either J-spec BBS LMs or SSR SP1 Professors

I want a white wagon, so Id either do white or Super Black SSRs or the anthracite J-spec BBSs

these are the J-spec ones:
http://www.user.kcv-net.ne.jp/~tirelandozawa/bbs-lm(sp2).jpg
http://www.user.kcv-net.ne.jp/~tirelandozawa/BBS-LM(DBK-P).jpg
little details like the red center cap and red BBS letters on the lip

[Chapel]

oh, and I wanna try to get a set of Advan A048s or Dunlop Formula D01Js
Advan A048s are finally DOT compliant too!

[SUBE555]

Boy, you must have some cash sitting around.

Care to share? :D

[*Jedimaster*]

I just bought 17 inch Rota Battles and Kuhmo Ecsta tires last year, so they'll go on the GT. I think they're dead sex-ah!

[Chapel]

dont have alot of cash... I just pay well for good wheels
I spent $1600 just to get my Zender Turbos for my E30 refinished.

[SC GT]

The more I think about it, I think I'd rather just put a set of Azenis on the stock rims rather than buying rims and tires.

[SUBE555]

Unfortunately, they don't offer the Azenis RT-215 in stock size, one size wider, that bumps you out of stock tire class. They do offer the ST-115 model though (lesser brother) in stock size.

[SC GT]

Unfortunately, they don't offer the Azenis RT-215 in stock size, one size wider, that bumps you out of stock tire class. They do offer the ST-115 model though (lesser brother) in stock size.

I'm not planning on autocrossing, so that wouldn't matter to me. I just hope the Azenis Sports won't rub.

[SUBE555]

Shouldn't.

[vwong]

Unfortunately, they don't offer the Azenis RT-215 in stock size, one size wider, that bumps you out of stock tire class.

I don't know about the stock tire class in your region. But if the rule for this stock tire class is basically the SCCA Stock class rules except that only street tires are allowed, then I don't see why going with 225/45/17 will bump you out of class. Unless your local region has different rule set for the stock tire class. :?:

[SUBE555]

I must have read the rule sheet wrong, you're right. That size should work fine. Rule as listed on the Moutons SCCA rules site, last cited 2002 & 2003 per the book...
'Tire must fit the allowable wheels and fender wells without modification.'

I must have been thinking Street Touring and Prepared classes which my current vehicle fits under. :)

[agctr]

What does everyone think of the rims on the STi model Legacy/Liberty? For mine, unless its the actual colour of the picture, I think they are a bit too grey. I think either shadow chrome or a lighter silver would look a lot better.

Have you seen the BBS CH Motorsport rims? They come in 17" 18" & 19" and fill out the arches perfectly!

[SUBE555]

I think the darker crystal grey-like color works, it helps set it apart a bit particularly if a true STi model. But, everyone has their own opinion.

[Chapel]

I dont like the CHs that much
try the new BBS REs
lighter and cheaper than the CH
similar style
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/bbs/swap/bbs_re_ci3_l.jpg
only comes in 18 though

[Drift Monkey]

I'm still partial to GIALLA.

http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/wheel/vulcano/valcano2.jpg

[brady_bunch]

Anyone know where I can get a set of rims in this style (5- or 7-double-spoke):

[7stars]

Volk daytona speed

http://www.group5motorsport.com/images/products/vr-fzds.jpg

[brady_bunch]

ASA makes some rims that are similar to the AMG above but not for the Subaru bolt pattern. I don't like the "rivets" along the edge but I do like the double spoke style. Anyone know of a style like this that would fit the GT?

[SUBE555]

You could always just flip for a set of these...
http://www.subaru.co.uk/imggb/www/subaru_accessories.nsf/NULL/BC71551FE2B2D8C880256E4C0057FC25/$FILE/28111ae011.jpg
It's the wheel that comes standard in at least a few countries on the WRX, has been since the inception of the newer GD/GG Impreza.

[brady_bunch]

Leave it to Sube. :)

Any info on the size or price?

There are two differences that I see:
1) On the AMG and ASA rims the lug holes are lined up with the spokes (as opposed to the gap between the spokes).
2) On the AMG and ASA rims the space between the spoke pairs goes all the way to the edge of the rim. On the Subaru rim, it looks like it doesn't go all the way to the edge.

VERY close, though. Hmmm... I'm sure the Suby rims would be less than the $419 per rim cost of the AMG rims. :) They would probably fit, too. There's always THAT benefit. hehehe

[SUBE555]

Those rims could be had for about $1250, lately I haven't seen a vendor carrying them. Vivid Racing used to, but I also haven't heard the best things about them.

That pic is from the Subaru UK site. It is a 17x7" wheel, same size as OE. I know the fit is just fine. They are also available in gold if that is what you like. :)
http://www.subaru.co.uk/IMGGB/WWW/Subaru_Accessories.nsf/NULL/CCF96B0A6386F61A80256D59004C4229/$FILE/28111fe020k.jpg

I'm actually thinking about just an extra set of stock wheels depending on their weight and cost in comparison to others. There are some decent race tire options like the PZero Corsa's. :)
http://www.subaru.co.uk/imggb/www/subaru_accessories.nsf/NULL/923F0EB6E4F46BCF80256DFA0065A9DC/$FILE/28111ag010.jpg

Man Subaru UK is so lucky with the amount of accessories they get! LINK (http://www.subaru.co.uk/IMGGB/WWW/subaru_accessories.nsf/webinternetmodels?openview) Might not be cheap but they have such an OEM variety.

[SC GT]

The more I see them, the more I like the stock rims.

[SUBE555]

They probably aren't as heavy as a lot of the aftermarket alternatives and are (generally) fairly strong as well. Plus they just look nice overall. I've liked most of Subaru's OE sporty wheels (well, except the bugeye WRX/RS ones. :P

[gtguy]

The more I see them, the more I like the stock rims.

I'm with SC GT on this one. I took a good, hard look at the stock GT wheels, and in addition to being super easy to clean with five wide, flat spokes. they look quite nice. It's almost a shame that my P1s will relegate the stockers to winter duty, but such is life.

Kevin

[Deer Killer]

Stock rims are lame. Why is it so hard for japanese cars to have classy wheels? I'm fond of the audi avus wheels, but I can't for my car to end up on AWOT as a point-and-laugh (if they fit). Who else has a "I mean business" look? No stupid curves or spoke patterns or random useless ornamentation.

What's the second-hand value of the stock rims?

There's a set on the JDM B4 site that looks real nice (and hopefully cheap since they are factory)

Only two that fit that I'd even consider from tirerack below; Are the RGR's really worth more than double the price for the ASA? It's a little darker finish (good) but it's once piece, I'd say for a long-term owner two/three piece is better - especially on new england roads.

[7stars]

Those AR1's are made with BBS licensed technology, which make it very lightweight. IMO it looks better than the RGR

[brady_bunch]

I'm still partial to GIALLA.

http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/wheel/vulcano/valcano2.jpg

Hey, DM... is there a name for the style that the GIALLA rims use where the spokes seem to curve out and then back in a bit to meet up with the rim? (The upper left part of the image above shows the "curve back" rather well). Rather than being "flat faced" like the stock rims and some of the others, they seem to curve back into the rim a bit before connecting to the outer edge of the wheel. It looks rather cool.

One other thing... I'm thinking the CORSA in the picture is lowered just slightly... yes? Or is it just the larger size of the rims filling out the wheel well?

[gtguy]

Stock rims are lame. Why is it so hard for japanese cars to have classy wheels? I'm fond of the audi avus wheels, but I can't for my car to end up on AWOT as a point-and-laugh (if they fit). Who else has a "I mean business" look? No stupid curves or spoke patterns or random useless ornamentation.

What's the second-hand value of the stock rims?

There's a set on the JDM B4 site that looks real nice (and hopefully cheap since they are factory)

Only two that fit that I'd even consider from tirerack below; Are the RGR's really worth more than double the price for the ASA? It's a little darker finish (good) but it's once piece, I'd say for a long-term owner two/three piece is better - especially on new england roads.

I would say, more accurately, "Stock rims are lame to me." Opinions and perspectives vary. I, for instance, think that the much-loved B4 or Spec B wheels look rather silly in a boy racer kind of way. This is why there are so many different kinds of wheels, to suit different tastes.

Some people look at wheels as a fashion accessory, others, such as I, ask if they are strong, reasonably light, durable and easy to clean. Subaru has excellent stock wheels that meet all of those criteria. They might not be the height of fashion, but they are an excellent wheel. The stock STi BBS wheels are also quite nice, for those so inclined.

Kevin

[SC GT]

Stock rims are lame. Why is it so hard for japanese cars to have classy wheels? . . .

Only two that fit that I'd even consider from tirerack below; Are the RGR's really worth more than double the price for the ASA? It's a little darker finish (good) but it's once piece, I'd say for a long-term owner two/three piece is better - especially on new england roads.

Deer Killer:

I'm sure your local Subie dealer would be more than willing to sell you the Subaru BBS wheels, 17X7, +55 offset, forged I believe, and lightweight --- just be prepared to pay the price for them.

[Drift Monkey]

Hey, DM... is there a name for the style that the GIALLA rims use where the spokes seem to curve out and then back in a bit to meet up with the rim? (The upper left part of the image above shows the "curve back" rather well). Rather than being "flat faced" like the stock rims and some of the others, they seem to curve back into the rim a bit before connecting to the outer edge of the wheel. It looks rather cool.

One other thing... I'm thinking the CORSA in the picture is lowered just slightly... yes? Or is it just the larger size of the rims filling out the wheel well?
I don't know the exact term, but it does look cool. The lip of the wheel also looks pretty deep...also a plus for me.

It is apparent that it is lowered. If you look at Gialla's suspension page, they sell springs and other suspension components for the Legacy.

[chrono111]

Just had to post another picture of this beauty !!!

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/parts/blbp_legacy/largeimage/1-3.jpg

[gtguy]

Just had to post another picture of this beauty !!!

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/parts/blbp_legacy/largeimage/1-3.jpg

That is the only wheel I have seen that I would have on my Legacy, other than the Prodrive P1 or stock.

Kevin

[SUBE555]

Kevin that's BLING! :mrgreen:

[gtguy]

At the price per wheel (north of $850) heck yeah, they're bling. Too much so for my blood. I wouldn't want to have to try cleaning them, either. With my P1s I just soak the wash mitt, grab a spoke and voila.

Kevin

[SUBE555]

Kevin, I don't need to know the intimate details of your washing procedure. :roll: :lol:

The washing (being a PITA) with those wheels is sort of why I don't want that design again. They look great when clean but are not easy to keep that way! I know, have snowflakes on the current model.

[jim1969]

What does anyon think of the Falken Ziex ZE 512 as a replacement to the stock Bridgstone Potenza RE92s?

[SUBE555]

Replied to your other post in this section on the subject. I'm getting the Toyo Proxes 4's though.

Back to wheels. :)

[bluefogz]

I'm thinking about putting these on my Obsidian Black 05' 2.5i wagon:
5zigen "super sixes"
17x7
gunmetal with a polished lip (5 lug of course). I'm into the "stealth" look and don't want anything too flashy.

I might stick with the 215/45/17 tires. I'm told the offset on these wheels,+48, won't allow for 225's ... is this true?

Your opinions please.

[gtguy]

Lord, no....

Kevin

[Dr. Zevil]

Those 5zigen's aren't horrible looking wheels, but I think there are much better options for the legacy. Those look more like fast and furious wheels. I personally like a classy multispoke design. Again, only opinions.

[SUBE555]

I'm in full agreement there Ross. I mean Rck James. :lol:

Those just look too ricy IMO. Welll, at least they don't look nearly as smooth as a Prodrive or OE wheel.

[Dr. Zevil]

I can't figure out what wheels I am going to get for my wagon. Seth and I have went around about finding a "spec-b"-esque spoked rim. I don't really want to go with the Prodrive P1's because they really remind me of a WRX. I would like to get a set of the Rota Tarmac II's that can be seen on Subydude's site. I question the quality of those rims though. Can't complain about the price though. The stock rims are nice and I am sure they are strong, it would just be nice to have a wheel that differentiates my car from the pack.

[SUBE555]

Me and Ross are completely on the same page here. Seperated at birth? :lol:

You're right about the P1's though, even though they are of similar design, it doesn't look right on a Leggy IMO. The GC-010's/Tarmac II's look a bit more industrial, a bit more to the style of the Legacy IMO.

[WRXTom]

I think the stock rims suit the car. Visually, the heft of the thick spokes seem to match the Legacy. Narrow spoke wheels, like the Rota Subzeros that I currently have on my GT, are not quite in balance with the rest of car. Too bad thicker spoke usually equals heavier wheel. The Rotas are ~6 pounds lighter than stock

Tom

[SUBE555]

And not nearly as strong either. ;) The subzeros worry me as I've heard of a few bad incidents with them and not so well support from Rota. With the kind of support I've heard of for their products, myself and others are weary of placing our trust and lives in their hands.

[bluefogz]

What do you guys think about black wheels on a black car? I thought black spokes with a polished lip might lighten it, visually. I just see so much "bling-bling" chrome these days that I'm trying to stay as far away from looking even remotely "pimp". Which brings me to a nooBy question...do you guys think gold would look to flashy on a Legacy Wagon? :D

[gtguy]

What do you guys think about black wheels on a black car? I thought black spokes with a polished lip might lighten it, visually. I just see so much "bling-bling" chrome these days that I'm trying to stay as far away from looking even remotely "pimp". Which brings me to a nooBy question...do you guys think gold would look to flashy on a Legacy Wagon? :D

Pontiac, and yes.

Kevin

[WRXTom]

If I remember correctly there were some issues WAY back that were specific to the Subzeros. The issue got a lot a air time but I am only aware of one race related incident (there might be more) and I believe it was traced to a particular casting. Pretty sure Rota took care of everybody. I have had no issues with my Rotas and I have hit some potholes pretty hard. Gary Sheehan uses Subzeros on his race car.

As far as fit 'n finish goes I suspect that Prodrive or similar would be to a higher standard although my Rotas are holding up fine.

I would consider buying another set of Rotas in a different style. Although, I have seen some used Prodrives that looked interesting.

Tom

[WRXTom]

What do you guys think about black wheels on a black car?
Personally, black wheels are my least favorite look. Actually, I loathe it :)

do you guys think gold would look to flashy on a Legacy Wagon?
My second least favorite look.

Tom

[Dr. Zevil]

At first I loved the sub-zero's because I was a fan of thier racing hart counterpart. But the spokes would be waaay to small for the legacy. they are too racey. Black rim's don't do it for me. You should look at a gunmetal color :D


http://www.subydude.com/images/prod/products/Wheels/rt17tarmac2500gm_03.jpg

the image here is dark, but they shine with a bronze hue in the light.. If you want black, this might be a compromise in colors.

[bluefogz]

So where would you guys recommend buying Prodrives?

[SUBE555]

If I remember correctly there were some issues WAY back that were specific to the Subzeros. The issue got a lot a air time but I am only aware of one race related incident (there might be more) and I believe it was traced to a particular casting. Pretty sure Rota took care of everybody. I have had no issues with my Rotas and I have hit some potholes pretty hard. Gary Sheehan uses Subzeros on his race car.

Race and street are two different things, but like has been noted, they just don't fit too well with the look of the new Leggys.

A friend of mine in Madison sells wheels, he was looking into selling Rota, and asked them if they had remedied those quality problems, all they said is if you don't like it, then don't sell it. Said nothing to back up their previous problems or how they had been remedied to him, only made rude comments basically our customers will take chances if they like the wheel. Didn't really stand behind their product. He also mentioned a few other instances of breaks, I'd have to search to find them, but I trust Jon on them. Just makes me leary with how they back their products. Even other low-cost wheel mfgs back their products better in general. At least their US distributor arm.

I'm not sure where others have bought Prodrives, I might just get mine through Prodrive-USA if I decide to get Prodrives. I really haven't seen much lesser prices on their wheels.

[bluefogz]

Forgive me for sounding like such a Subaru rookie(because I am!) but why does there seem to be such a huge Rota following with Subaru owners? Is there a history there? What is the main appeal with those wheels? Is it the quality? Price? Look?

[gtguy]

Forgive me for sounding like such a Subaru rookie(because I am!) but why does there seem to be such a huge Rota following with Subaru owners? Is there a history there? What is the main appeal with those wheels? Is it the quality? Price? Look?

Look and price. When you see them in person, the quality just isn't there for me. They make a Tarmac, that is the replica of the Prodrive P1. But it's the wrong offset, and just doesn't look as nice as the P1. I don't know if it's as durable or not, but my P1s, when my GT wagon shows up, will be going on their third car.

Kevin

[WRXTom]

Basically, Rotas are cheap. I bought mine used so they were REALLY cheap. Compared to new Prodrives I paid about 30% of the list price.

They are close replicas of the original manufacture's version of the wheel. They are very popular with WRX owners since the car begged for a 17" wheel (like is standard in other markets) and many owners just didn't want to (like me), or weren't in a financial position to, spend the money for the brand name wheels. The stock GT wheels are 17" so unless you are looking to change the look of the car with another 17" wheel (I wouldn't spend the money), are going to 18" (the ride quality will likely become quite jittery) or are going forged ($$$) to save weight (always a good idea but at what cost) there really is no reason to change them for performance reasons.

The Rota offset works just fine, Prodrive has Subaru specific wheels with the same width (7.5") and offset (48mm), but it is certainly different than stock.

The Rotas have served me well but I will likely make mine my winter wheels. I prefer the look of the stock wheels. If you can't stomach the price of new Prodrives check out some of the other forums for used Prodrives. I've seen them on a regular basis.

Tom

[gtguy]

A guy in Kansas City was trying to sell five P1s for $700, for local pick up.

It's also worth noting that if I didn't already have the P1s, I wouldn't buy new wheels. Or I would, but they would be snow-specific wheels, making the stock GT wheels the main wheels.

The P1s are 17x7 with a +53 offset. They will sit out in the fender well a bit more than stock, but the effect will be negligible vs a +48 offset, 17" wheel.

Another interesting thing to note for all you P1 devotees, is that there is still the persistent rumor that the early models (like mine) were lighter, back when they were essentially unobtainum. My P1s, shod with 215-45-17 Dunlop SP9000s weigh 38 lbs per wheel, which lends some credence to this theory. More recent examples of the P1, coming in at about 20 lbs per wheel, are getting about 42 lbs with a similar weight tire.

Who knows? Wheel weight doesn't really matter all that much, unless you're adding some big, blingy, 12 lbs per corner heavier chrome thing or something.

Kevin

[nicd]

Well the wheels are on and they fit, it is tight but the front end has natural negative camber so far on a heavy turn no rubbing either on the strut or fender there is still a good 1.5" between wheel/rubber and strut..

[gtguy]

What wheels are those, nicd, and what's the offset?

Kevin

[nicd]

Prodrive GC06D 17x7.5 +48
Tire Falken Azenis 225/17/45

Soo much grip really the car hadles better than my WRX with the STI suspension. Turn is razor sharp.

[Dr. Zevil]

Those look nice. It seems as though a 7.5" wheel is all that is going to look nice on the GT then. I don't think I will spend money on another 17" rim since they come from the factory.. I would go 18". Honestly I probably won't get any rims at all since they stockers are going to be more than adequate, Plus they look very nice!

[gtguy]

Prodrive GC06D 17x7.5 +48
Tire Falken Azenis 225/17/45

Soo much grip really the car hadles better than my WRX with the STI suspension. Turn is razor sharp.

That's good to hear, nicd. I was wondering about that, and the difference that nice rubber would make. With the offset and wheel/tire width difference, what you have in effect done is widened the track of your GT. Man, I'm dying...DYING, I tell you. I want my wagon!

Kevin

[nicd]

Kevin, I really have to say that this Legacy is really what Subaru is all about this is my 6th Suby and by far the best stock rider no question. It leterally carves its way around. Iwould not be surprised to see the chasis showinf up at the Solo meets shortly in either base or turbo trim and doing very very well.

However untill you have driven this car a bit it is difficult to explain. What I can tell you is that last night I went from my GT ltd Wagon to a G-35x and I am sorry but the seats are not close to those of the Suby, the interior detailing in the Suby is more functional and looks sturdier. Anyway I am bias so I will stop but you could not pay me to step out of this GT to go into a G-35.

But that is not what its about, I am happy with what I have i have been waiting close to 7 years for this car to get here- well worth the wait.

[SUBE555]

That's just awesome nicd! I can't wait for my GT Wagon as well Kevin. :mrgreen: I have been waiting around 4 years for something of this caliber in a well-rounded package nicd. I sorta know what you mean by waiting. Maybe it's biding one's time. :lol:

Sounds great for tires/wheels also. Can we get a better side profile? :P

[nicd]

There you go I did not want to post too many pics before I do the tints.

[Dr. Zevil]

WOW! That looks really sharp on that car. I can see why you wanted to tint the windows before you showed it off. It looks great! I am not a big fan of dark wheels on a black car but yours looks nice!

[WRXTom]

nicd, that looks very nice. The 7.5", 48 offset does work well on the wagon. I'm only running the 215/45/17s that I had on my WRX but now you have me thinking about 225s.

Tom

[nicd]

What I did find out is that the +48 offset will fit no problems with either the stock suspension or the spec B suspension. The 7.5" rims also fit on the the same set-up. For the tires I guess it is still up in the air i am using 225/45/17.

Most in Japan that keep the stock rims in 17 or 18 keep 215/40/17 perhaps not to have to buy new tires as most still seem to have the RE050 OEM rubber, also the stock rims are all 7". However many aftermarket setups that have the spec B suspension do have 225.

Below is a BP5B on 18x7.5 +48 that is on 225. So what is the conclusion?

[axis008]

Sorry to digress, but wow the exhaust on that wagon is sweet! What kind is it? Doesn't look like the STI one because it's not the uneven length tips. At least it looks like it from that angle.

[tallguylehigh]

Those wheels in the wagon pics look freakin awesome. They kind of look like the Honda Modulo wheels except they have more of a curve on them. I like them a lot, and these have now become my 2nd favorite wheel on a legacy, behind the Spec B of course :oops: . Airy 5-spokes have always had a place in my heart.

Whats the $$$

[nicd]

Here: http://www.prodrive-japan.com/information/news/20040109/img/main_01.jpg
LEGACY (BP5) F/R 17×7.5J 5 100 48
F/R 18×7.5J 5 100 48

Your cost Japan 550 USD/17" or 605 USD/18"

[Dr. Zevil]

Those prodrives look awesome. I will say that they are one of my favorite rim that I have seem yet. Unfortunately they aren't exaclty affordable. I can't believe that a wheel could cost that much but I guess so. Is there anywhere in the US that carrys this wheel? I also would like to get rid of the model number on the wheel and keep the Prodrive label.

[nicd]

Those are the STI dual exhaust un-even length. 126,000 JPY. 1158 USD.

[SUBE555]

The GC-05 is a nice wheel, but yes, expensice as all GC wheels are. $2k+ for a set of wheels is a bit above my range. I'm just hoping to be able to get a set of PFF-7's in 17x7.5" as it sounds they may finally be bringing out (until now only 18x8.) The 18" version is between 19-20, I'm hoping 17-18 with the 17" version, and hopefully it fits. I'm sending Mike Shields a message a bit later to clarify things.

Too bad they don't make a forged version, then a less costly PFF flow-forming version. Keeps cost down and somewhat affordable for us small-timers while those who can afford the big bling could flip for it in the forged GC line.

[gtguy]

So, the P1s are on. Not only do they look badarse, but I save 4 lbs per corner. The stock GT wheel/tire combo comes in at 42 lbs, vs 38 for the P1/Dunlop 9000 combo. Suh-weet!

Kevin

[Sub-attraction]

I'd like to see that, how about some pics?

[gtguy]

Pics are coming tomorrow, I hope. I'm going to bond with a computer-savvy bud who also has a digital camera.

I think the stock wheels look better, frankly, but I'm just so fond of the P1s that I can't give them up...but I might have to. We'll see how things look in the cold, cruel light of day.

Kevin

[GranTourer]

I was checking out what Tirerack had available so far, and I'm thinking the 17" Kosei K1 TS. I don't know, it's sooo light at 13.7lbs (probably about 34lbs with some Toyo T1s), but it might make the Leggy look to Acura TL'ish?

Here's a photochopped pic:

[Mines]

Which one of these is lighter?

The GC-010E?
http://prodrive-usa.com/productImages/122.jpg

or the GC-05F?

And do they even sell the GC-05F in America? Because the wheel is not on the prodrive-usa.com

[SUBE555]

You would probably have to get the GC-05's grey because I haven't seen anyplace offering them in the US.

[IwannaSportSedan]

For all those who like the stock rims, check out the general discussion forum for the 50th Anniversary Legacy's "High Raster Silver painted" wheel (pic at bottom)
IF ONLY this were a half inch wider, or better yet 18x7.5-8.0.
It makes me want to polish and clearcoat the stock GT rims... I really like them but I would rather have 225 section summer tires.

As for the ASA vs BBS debate before, I have ASA LS5s in 16x7 that came on my wife's 99 Miata when we bought it. She hit a chunk of ice, and split the rim, in the deepest part of the rim valley. I had to order a new rim, and wad dissappointed with the paint quality. it isn't obvious from more than a few inches away, but nevertheless, it isn't perfect.

I'd pay for the forged strength of Prodrive, BBS RGR or RE, or SSR Comps or GT2s way before buying another cast aftermarket rim.

Personally, Besides my favorite BBS RGRs, I like the GT2s from SSR. Pics below. Even Gold, for those who are Die Hard Subie Rally fans. I prefer the silver. A very good alternative to the ultra-bling Rays STI rims.

[Xenonk]

These will be going on my Legacy..

http://www.salazar-racing.com/images/pic153.jpg
http://www.salazar-racing.com/images/new15.jpg

I dont know if these will fit (17x8 at 40mm offset) but I'll try to fit them on there.. I am sure it will stick out some out of the fender.
http://www.salazar-racing.com/images/ACF8754.jpg

Keefe

[agctr]

The offset sounds pretty nice im sure it will give you a lot more entry and exit grip on corners. I have mine offset slightly but not as big as 40mm. Personally I love the BBS CH rims in either 18" or 19" but also now like the PRODRIVE ones listed after. They look very meaty to say the least

[brady_bunch]

Anybody have an idea of what rims these are? (no flames on the model car :)... I saw a pic of this car on apex-japan and had to know about the rims).

http://www.ings-net.com/products/lx-sport/skyline-v35/imgs/f.jpg

http://www.apexjapan.com/dev/ag_cars_preview/images/2004_ag032.jpg

[axis008]

They are Volk Racing rims. The name is Progressive Spoke: linky (http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/cgi-bin/cgi2/getWheelItem.cgi?maker=VOLK&model=010_PROGRE).

More pictures:
http://www.importhookup.com/images/skylineprogressive.jpg
http://www.importhookup.com/images/350zprogressive.jpg
http://www.importhookup.com/images/sm%20prog%20spoke.jpg
http://www.importhookup.com/images/sm%20prog%20spoke2.jpg

If you want to purchase them, http://www.importhookup.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22 or http://www.importhookup.com/ seems like they have good deals.

[meier motor sports]

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/sportedition/swap/se_fox_2_grey_ci3_l.jpg
or powder coated stockers in a similar color as thoes. a dark or medium gray

[SUBE555]

I've always in a way sort of like the Fox 2's. Looks simple and clean I guess.

[Sub-attraction]

What do you think of these 18" SSR GT7 rims ? ... albeit pricey @$500 per.

[GranTourer]

Of all the wheels I've seen so far, my favorite are the 18" wheels on the Legacy 3.0R spec.B I like the 7-spoke design and it has some character and definition that a lot of aftermarket wheels tend to either loose or go overboard on.

I wouldn't mind getting a set imported to keep the stock 5-spokes company.

[vancouverguy]

They look great!

Where would you import them from?

[GranTourer]

Where would you import them from?

Hello, and welcome to the forums.

I don't know where I would go to have something that large imported, its been a while.

[BoxerGT2.5]

Volk LE28N's 18x7.5 w/+48mm offset should do me just fine in mercury silver. :)

[Mines]

OZ racing Superturismo GT 18x8s

[05USdmGTgUy]

I think I'm ordering the SSR professor's in black.....so purrrrty.

[GranTourer]

I think I'm ordering the SSR professor's in black.....so purrrrty.

I like the rivet look on that wheel. I wonder what they would look like on a Legacy.

[Deer Killer]

What about these? available as 17x7 5x100
$102!! :o from edgeracing. Although they appear to be out of stock on the compatible offsets

I'm gonna guess they are cast, but I can't confirm.

[WhiteWagon]

The JDM Spec B wheels appear to be similar to the ASA JH3 wheels listed at the tire rack. Seeing how ASA is licensed by BBS and Suabru's use of BBS wheels, could this be the case?

Here is a link to the ASA wheel.

http://www.tirerack.com/servlet/CallJsp?target=wheelSearchCloseUp&wheelIndex=3&siz eIndex=1&showRear=no&setIndex=0&filterSize=&filter Finish=&filterSpecial=

[EyeFlyIsTheEye]

GRP Legacy GT Sedan (ixnay the spoiler)

http://www.legacygt.com/files/img_3611e_651.jpg

Prodrive P-1 in Gold

http://scoobytuner.com/images.original/174.jpg