Wagon or sedan? [Archive] - Subaru Legacy Forums

gtguy

01-09-2004, 05:04 PM

Wagon. The seats fold down, I have a thing for wagons, and I think it looks better than the sedan, particularly the way the roofline slopes downward toward the rear of the car, and the way the spoiler is integrated into the roofline.

I have a WRX wagon, and think its high rump yields a better visual balance than the sedan. Both sedan and wagon, in Legacy iteration, are gorgeous, however.

Kevin

AMT4SWA

01-09-2004, 10:11 PM

Sedan for me...the only wagon I like is the Audi Allroad.

team23jordan

01-10-2004, 01:38 AM

^audi a4 advant is ultimate wagen pimpness
if i dont like legacy, i'll probably get that car or RX-8 :cry:

PPower

01-11-2004, 09:44 AM

I've got plenty of time to decide, but I'm thinking sedan. I like the looks better especially now that we won't have the low profile rails. By that time, we'll be near my dad, and he's got a Navigator in case we really need to haul something. Though the larger sunroof, fold down seats, and underfloor storage are nice.

goneskiian

01-11-2004, 09:25 PM

Hey PPower's here now too! Welcome from Panama!

I'm with gtguy (Kevin). I've always like wagons for some reason. I really liked the early 90's Honda Accord wagons. Very clean lines. Guess I didn't get loaded up with any "Wagon's are for Mom's" baggage when I was a kid. Then again my Mom never had a wagon, unless you count the Pinto. :lol: :lol:

Besides the car is still just a tool to get me to the places where the real fun starts. That would be the mountains (for skiing in case you hadn't guessed) and the far away boonies (the only place they let us have bicycle races).

I know, I know. I really should take a driving class so I can learn to appreciate the fine art of operating a vehicle on the edge. Trust me, it's on the "To do" list. Unfortunately it's a bit below "Grocery shopping." :lol: :wink: :lol:

-Ian

PPower

01-11-2004, 09:41 PM

Hey PPower's here now too! Welcome from Panama!

hola q'pasa wassappening!!! :D

I just thought that it could end up being the price difference between the sedan and wagon that helps me make up my mind. It's a no brainer on the Impreza because the wagon is cheaper, but the cost issue won't be on the side of the Legacy. However, being a longtime supporter of the wagon over the sedan, I may need to rethink my logic. I passed on my clubwrx name "Powerwagon" because of my quandry. With the larger size, this thing could be a much more comfortable Shaggin Wagon!

SUBE555

01-12-2004, 12:11 AM

Sedan, it's what I'm used to. But that Wagon isn't all that bad. Hmm. On the list for a GT wagon at the local dealership.

goneskiian

01-12-2004, 02:02 AM

Hey look! SUBE555'S here now too!
hola q'pasa wassappening!!!

:lol: :lol:

Where's BigElm? :D

Oh yeah. I still like the wagon!

-Ian

PPower

01-12-2004, 09:16 AM

Hey look! SUBE555'S here now too!
hola q'pasa wassappening!!!

:lol: :lol:

Where's BigElm? :D

Oh yeah. I still like the wagon!

-Ian

I dunno. Maybe we can't see the tree for the forest. :lol: OK, that was bad. :oops:

dark_rex

01-12-2004, 09:47 AM

i'm looking for the sedan.

so sexy!

kage

01-12-2004, 10:48 PM

I said wagon, but what would be perfect for me is a hatchback like the Mazda6.

bgsntth

01-13-2004, 05:06 PM

Wagon. I hate putting surfboards on the roof. This will be my 5th Suby wagon.

Yukonart

01-13-2004, 11:30 PM

Wagon. . . factory roof rails for hauling snowboards is OKAY. :)

That. . . and ever since Laurel turned me on to Subbies, there's just something really sexy about a Legacy wagon. ;)

autobahned

01-30-2004, 12:37 AM

Wagon! wow, another sleeper just like the Forester XT, but way much prettier, and there is more JDM aftermarket stuff for wagon. If you like moonroof, wagon could get you a super size one, almost as big as the one on Forester, fold down the rear seat, and the moon roof is the world's best movie screen...to watch star:D

HomerJay

01-30-2004, 12:40 AM

I've always wanted a wagon. Also, I go snowboarding a lot so I could use the room.

legacy92ej22t

01-31-2004, 11:24 AM

Sedan here. My 92 Legacy turbo sedan needs a friend :wink:

SUBE555

01-31-2004, 12:03 PM

I'm still on the fence! (Looks like the poll is deadlocked at this point. :D)

EJ20H-TT

01-31-2004, 07:03 PM

Who will break the deadlock ?

SUBE555

02-01-2004, 12:32 AM

Dunno, now it's 12/12.

I'm stuck between silver and black, wagon and sedan. I had been saying wagon-silver, sedan-black, but now I'm thinking closer to both in black (throw some Detroit F1 or Spec B 18" wheels powdercoated a medium bronze ;) ) and either would look golden in the summer with the stock 17's for winter wheels. :)

Damn, decisions, decisions. At least by the time I plan on getting mine I will have lots of pics and ideas of what to choose and the aftermarket should be well underway. :)

shelltox

02-02-2004, 02:03 PM

sorry no kids, no dogs, no use of wagon or suv or truck.

Dr. Zevil

02-02-2004, 02:31 PM

All tied up again :lol:

Ridgeracer

02-02-2004, 02:46 PM

looks like a 50/50 vote for what people are getting....I voted for the sedan.

BTW...anyone download the B4 screen connector/screensaver from subaru's JDM website..? There is a really neat video thats included with it. Also check out some of the interior pics too. There is this really awesome pic with the drivers door open showing off the ivory/black interior....sweeeet

Dr. Zevil

02-02-2004, 02:56 PM

evolutionmovement

02-02-2004, 03:23 PM

No kids, wither, but I use my wagon for kayaks, bikes, spare engines, and cheaping out on moving expenses. Very handy. Save money on hotels when driving cross-country (as well as other things), too.

Steve

Dr. Zevil

02-02-2004, 05:36 PM

The only reason that I am considering the wagon is for house chores and the dog.. that's about it.

gtguy

02-02-2004, 08:00 PM

Piffle. I want the wagon (no implied apologies) because it looks better than the sedan, is more useful, and shouldn't give up very much in performance, if the WRX wagon is any indication.

Further, wagons, all else being equal, will rotate better into a corner because of better weight distribution.

And did I mention the Legacy wagon looks better than the sedan? :lol: The way that roof slopes rearward toward the bumper, and the verrrry elegant attached spoiler. Yummy!

Kevin

SUBE555

02-02-2004, 09:15 PM

How about a Black Wagon w/ STi Springs, and Spec B wheels in Bronze like this:
http://www.subydude.com/images/prod/products/Wheels/300/300/rota17tarmac2bronze50048_01.jpg
(Those are Rota Tarmac II's as a representation.)

Dr. Zevil

02-02-2004, 09:36 PM

but what about those nasty roof rails? NASTY!

SUBE555

02-02-2004, 09:40 PM

Get them painted or removed.

Dr. Zevil

02-02-2004, 09:44 PM

last thing I am gonna do is shave or paint my brand new $30K car.. wheels, yes.

SUBE555

02-02-2004, 09:54 PM

Then complain about them. It's your car. :P

Dr. Zevil

02-02-2004, 09:58 PM

Fine.. I will then :P

Wagon all the way without the outback roof rails! I WANT THAT HUMUNGO SUNROOF!

Dr. Zevil

02-02-2004, 09:58 PM

Dude.. you have over 500 posts.. that's SILLY..

SUBE555

02-02-2004, 10:58 PM

http://www.subdriven.com/artman/uploads/007__scaled_600.jpg
Are those the roof rails you're complaining about? Get the wagon in black and looks fine to me. Gotta have some rudders to keep her straight at 160. :D

But seriously, I don't think it's a huge deal, I think my next one will be black again (they look so good when they're clean. :roll: ) It'll blend in for me.

But as I usually say, to each their own. :)

*****
EDIT: Okay just did a little more searching around and I see what you mean.
http://www.subdriven.com/gallerytk/generated/Automobiles/Legacy/2004/034__scaled_600.jpg
I know they look a bit out there compared to the JDM, they definitely should have gotten an option for paint. Maybe they will. If not this year, I'll definitely do my best to see that it's done for next year.

Definitely more attractive in any color with body-matched rails.
http://www.subdriven.com/gallerytk/generated/Automobiles/Legacy/2004/031__scaled_600.jpg
It's those little things that make it look/feel upscale.

*****
Side-note: heh, I can keep my post count down by editing instead of double-posting like many. I do that often-edit. 8)

Dr. Zevil

02-03-2004, 09:40 AM

You can see what I mean though. I am definitely considering the wagon but the painted roof rails would be the clincher. Either way like Kevin has been saying (repeatedly :lol:) that I won't be able to see those ugly things when I am cruisin' so it really doesn't matter. You can definitely see that the painted more low-profile roof rails are much more attractive.. much more upscale.

Good job giving us the side-by-side looks...

Oh, and I was just messing with you and your post count.....

...whore :lol::lol::lol:

SUBE555

02-03-2004, 10:07 AM

I was messing with you and a couple others on your need to double-post to get more posts. :lol:

I see what you're saying about the roof rails. Personally if I were you, if when they're released and there isn't an option for body-colored rails, I'd talk to the bodyshop manager at wherever you're buying the car to have those painted the same as the rest of the car right off the bat. Should add very little to the cost of the car but a lot for looks.

I think I'll be doing the oven amber corner removal deal too. All for the cleaner Euro/JDM look. Don't know why the USDM has to be so ugly (and it's not totally Subaru.) A lot of the USDM regulations are just bogus in my book. Work some common sense into design, but they probably have to have the regulations or the damn bean-counters would remove lights because they cut into profits too much. :roll:

Ah, more things to discuss... :D

gtguy

02-03-2004, 02:20 PM

The thing I can't tell with the wagon roof rails, is if we get the same roof as the rest of the world, or not. If we get the same roof, it's simple enough to get some Euro or JDM rails in the right color, and off we go.

From the pix, we know that there are these little "bumps" on the roof that the rails bolt to. This means that it should be simple enough to just bolt some new ones on, rather than having to pull the headliner, as is necessary with the WRX wagon.

I love the USDM wagon, and the rails look significantly better than the current Legacy's rails. The wagon also looks much better without the current hump (shared by the OB and Leg) in the roofline. But the Euro/JDM rails are much nicer, no doubt about it.

On the other hand, without the current USDM rails, what would I lash stuff to, for schleppage?

Kevin

PPower

02-03-2004, 06:11 PM

Doesn't look like there is anything like a bar to lash around on the USDM rails. They just seem to unexplicably stick up higher than the rest of the world's. I don't get it, but black would help cover up several flaws.

Dr. Zevil

02-03-2004, 06:15 PM

Doesn't make any sense to me.. I am hoping that is an outback carryover trait of a pre-production model..

titsataki

02-04-2004, 11:30 PM

Sedan for me.
Are they making a grey titanium color?
If not black on black...

Cheers

Nick

PPower

02-04-2004, 11:45 PM

Well, Nick, then black it is. :(

SUBE555

02-05-2004, 12:24 AM

I'd be content with another black one. :)

Ridgeracer

02-05-2004, 03:28 PM

Yeah.....sedans take the lead again in the poll....lol

titsataki

02-05-2004, 09:11 PM

Well, Nick, then black it is. :(

LOL I love a black car...
Never had one...

cheers

Nick

typej

02-05-2004, 11:26 PM

Wagon Wagon Wagon Wagon! Wagon all the way! Did i tell you to make mine a wagon? :D

HomerJay

02-15-2004, 03:55 PM

Wagon Wagon Wagon Wagon! Wagon all the way! Did i tell you to make mine a wagon?

Ditto.

SUBE555

03-27-2004, 01:46 AM

Resurrected. :)

P2x

03-27-2004, 03:36 AM

Gimme the sedan pictured at the top of these forum pages and i'd be a happy happy man.

ha-evolution

03-27-2004, 06:39 AM

Looks like the sedan is going to take it by a hair.

gtguy

03-27-2004, 08:26 AM

I'm sure that some sedan folks will see the light when they see the two in person. Doesn't the wagon have a better CD as well?

We already know that it looks better! :lol:

Kevin

SUBE555

03-27-2004, 10:09 AM

Wagon CD= 0.30, Sedan= 0.28, but I wonder if the Wagon can match that with a set of STi springs which pull about 1" out of the height. ;)

ha-evolution

03-27-2004, 11:49 AM

Cheater.

gtguy

03-27-2004, 11:51 AM

I bet that CD difference is the rails... :lol:

Kevin

SUBE555

03-27-2004, 11:59 AM

Cheater.

It's a factory available part, how would it be cheating? :D

Besides, I feel as information lends itself, it would be a decent compromise between OE ride/looks and STi-like handling. After all, the S401 I think for the struts/springs basically just upgraded the spring (don't remember if Bilsteins were stock on the model upgraded from however.)

It will happen sooner than later.

Yogi29035

04-01-2004, 12:50 PM

I voted for Pat Buchannan by mistake... I'll have to take this to the Supreme court and get back to ya.

ha-evolution

04-01-2004, 12:54 PM

Cheater.

It's a factory available part, how would it be cheating? :D

You have to put the STi springs on the sedan also to be fair.

SUBE555

04-01-2004, 02:00 PM

If you don't have it, oh well, you snooze you lose. :lol:

Th3Franz

04-01-2004, 08:36 PM

Sedan. I don't think I'd use the advantages of the wagon enough and I hear that the wagon will be more expensive. But I still could go either way.

SUBE555

04-01-2004, 09:05 PM

It's worth the likely $800-1000 extra for me. Particularly since I'll be on my own next year and away from all the instant resources.

outahere

06-02-2004, 08:06 PM

At first I was gravitating towards the sedan, but the wagon is looking increasingly attractive because of its utility. And there is only a minor weight penalty compared to the sedan. And based on reports, they both handle and ride identically.

SUBE555

06-02-2004, 10:03 PM

There are a few drawbacks, but I think they're definitely outdone by the benefits.

Holy batman! It's great to see some resourceful members on here using that search button like madness. We're reliving 2 or 3 months ago all over again! :D Not that that's a bad thing at all, that's what the search button and scrolling is for.

I knew the Leggy crowd was a smarter one. :D

nicd

06-03-2004, 10:02 AM

Wagon for soo many reasons. But to each his own. My first wagon was a REX and since then I have never looked at sedans again.

Drift Monkey

06-03-2004, 10:06 AM

Sedan. Can't justify the extra cost. :razz:

Dr. Zevil

06-03-2004, 12:30 PM

Wagon for soo many reasons. But to each his own. My first wagon was a REX and since then I have never looked at sedans again.

This will be my first trip into wagon-ville. I am sure, from what I have heard, that I will probably never go back again. If I can get the performance of the sedan with the convenience of the wagon, then it's a no brainer for me. I need something with some utility from household purchases and traveling with the animal.

PPower

06-03-2004, 01:03 PM

Sedan. Can't justify the extra cost. :razz:

Really? With a sedan you may need to buy a truck as a second car for hauling things around. Then with the cheaper wagon insurance, I can justify NOT getting a wagon. :D

Drift Monkey

06-03-2004, 01:12 PM

Really? With a sedan you may need to buy a truck as a second car for hauling things around. Then with the cheaper wagon insurance, I can justify NOT getting a wagon. :D
Of course not. :P I really don't need the extra space, and I already have a 4Runner and Tundra at my house for hauling stuff. That and the sedan just looks better and makes more sense for me, although I won't discredit the wagon's asthetic's either. It's one good looking wagon! 8)